double standards

brunt jmz··2 votes·514 views

im sick of getting accounts banned for going off about trolls bots and afks riot says they have a efficient systems that works when in fact it doesnt you can jump on right now on a low level account and play a aram game and get 9 bots right away ive had so many bots its not funny and afks and when i vent my frustrations its being toxic and i get banned for that yet i see no action against the troll or the afks in my games that result in my report/suspension they spew the same bull about how it works and just cos i said some stuff i get banned yet no action is taken for the said troll this game is a joke i think its just easy for you guys to ban me knowing you have a simple chat log that says i said something thats toxic yet you dont look in to the trolls or the bots you let it go unchecked these people will never get the accounts banned as they most of the time they group with friends and the friends egg it on so gj riot you made me more toxic then ever with your lack of action to the real problem TROLL BOTS AND AFKS

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redniwediS9 votes

All problematic players are handled. Some are difficult to track, others literally ask for a punishment in chat.

Don't break the rules, use the mute button, and you'll be just fine.

brunt jmz2 votes

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All problematic players are handled. Some are difficult to track, others literally ask for a punishment in chat.

Don't break the rules, use the mute button, and you'll be just fine.

tell me how muting is going to stop them from inting or trolling or even afking in a bush

RallerenP7 votes

Tell me how flaming them will stop them from inting or trolling or even afking in a bush.

brunt jmz2 votes

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Tell me how flaming them will stop them from inting or trolling or even afking in a bush.

it doesnt but riot doesnt do anything too thats why i say some thing that are seen as flaming cos nothing changes these trolls/afks and inters get no punishment what so ever but when i vent my frustration im flaming

RallerenP4 votes

Having an inter is annoying.

Having someone keep flaming and complaining is also annoying.

Inting is hard to track.

Flaming is easy to track.

Ergo flaming will more often be punished, while inting is more harshly punished.

redniwediS1 votes

Muting is going to stop you from being an idiot by getting your account punished. If you can't follow the rules on your own take steps to make sure you can't break them so easily.

Anastaecia7 votes

So...here's a question. Afks are afk. Bots are not real. Trolls WANT you to say stuff to them.

At what point did you realize your cussing was pointless?

Kei1433 votes

It's not really a double standard.

Chat toxicity and gameplay toxicity are different systems and uses different detection methods. Chat toxicity is really easy to catch, whilst gameplay toxicity require alot more data and verification to identify.

Different systems, different means of detection.

brunt jmz1 votes

how is muting them going to fix the inting/trolling fuck thats dumb and for cussing thats a way of life in AUS and when you get as many bots trolls or afk people you tend to lose there mind and go off there head at them im not joking ive got a new account 16 bots in 2 games and i can bet none of them are perma bans riot system doesnt work they punish people for saying stuff yet other type of toxic game play like trolling and just going afk is let go

Bettnachleger1 votes

lol you're yelling at bots? [zombie-brand-mindblown]

brunt jmz1 votes

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lol you're yelling at bots? [zombie-brand-mindblown]

i was pointing out the reporting system doesnt work if it did bots wouldnt be level 23 or higher and these people use said botting programs till level 30 and still no ban and for people being afk in my games it doesnt mean they are not in the game they just sit in the brush and do nothing and watch as you lose the game

zPOOPz6 votes

I'm more interested in which of the 9 "bots" reported him

Bettnachleger1 votes

Alistar bot Alistar

Imperial Pandaa2 votes

I am udderly proud of Ali Bot.

Yes, I just made that joke.

KennysDreamGirl1 votes

how do you know action wasn't taken against trolls or afks? riot cant tell you what action has been taken (i dont know if thats just a company policy or if thats for legal reasons) so you cant really say that they dont take action. another thing is, it is hard to differentiate people who purposely afk games between people who dont mean to afk (unexpected emergency, their internet messes up, power goes out). in reality its almost impossible for them to say this guy afks on purpose if there isn't any chat logs of that person saying hes afk, and thats for the reasons i listed above. it is easier to ban for chat related incidents because the logs and evidence is clear right on the system but the evidence isn't clear for afks

brunt jmz1 votes

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how do you know action wasn't taken against trolls or afks? riot cant tell you what action has been taken (i dont know if thats just a company policy or if thats for legal reasons) so you cant really say that they dont take action. another thing is, it is hard to differentiate people who purposely afk games between people who dont mean to afk (unexpected emergency, their internet messes up, power goes out). in reality its almost impossible for them to say this guy afks on purpose if there isn't any chat logs of that person saying hes afk, and thats for the reasons i listed above. it is easier to ban for chat related incidents because the logs and evidence is clear right on the system but the evidence isn't clear for afks

cos you can look at that person match history and it will say when they played last and for your net dropping out and making you afk ive been banned for that too riot has told me its my job to make sure your net/computer is working fine and ive showed riot so many times video evidence of them afk in my games even showed them inting yet nothing happened i looked at that person account and they still had games played after i made the report but if i say one thing thats all it takes i get banned si that not double standards?

KennysDreamGirl1 votes

first thing, im not saying that you haven't done these things but can you show proof that you did? i find it hard to believe that you have evidence of people afking on purpose and they have not done anything.

now, like i said before, afks are hard to prove because you can never know why they left unless they have said in chat.

for your net dropping out and making you afk ive been banned for that too riot has told me its my job to make sure your net/computer is working fine yeah. if you dont have the best internet you should make sure that it is atleast stable before going into ranked games and if you dont then you deserve a ban. but even good internet can stop for some reason. things happen, sometimes things can fail. its more unlikey if you have better internet providers but you cant say that it cant happen. im sure if you showed riot that you have good internet and internet provider but something just happened and your net cut off in game and you got a ban they would happily reverse that. my last reason, sometimes some unexpected emergaancy comes up that you cant plan for and have to afk. if you get a ban for that im sure they would lift it too for that reason if you showed them proof.

brunt jmz1 votes

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first thing, im not saying that you haven't done these things but can you show proof that you did? i find it hard to believe that you have evidence of people afking on purpose and they have not done anything.

now, like i said before, afks are hard to prove because you can never know why they left unless they have said in chat.

for your net dropping out and making you afk ive been banned for that too riot has told me its my job to make sure your net/computer is working fine yeah. if you dont have the best internet you should make sure that it is atleast stable before going into ranked games and if you dont then you deserve a ban. but even good internet can stop for some reason. things happen, sometimes things can fail. its more unlikey if you have better internet providers but you cant say that it cant happen. im sure if you showed riot that you have good internet and internet provider but something just happened and your net cut off in game and you got a ban they would happily reverse that. my last reason, sometimes some unexpected emergaancy comes up that you cant plan for and have to afk. if you get a ban for that im sure they would lift it too for that reason if you showed them proof.

wow this is bullshit my net wasnt bad at all if you know i live in AUS and our net at the time was the best i could get its a none fact AUS has shit net but im sure they take the in to account but they didnt they found it was easy just to give me a ban and you know you can make clips of your game RIGHT well ive made a number of clips of people sitting afk in brush but thats still not good enough if riot was able to just ban me from chat all together i would take that as i know now cos this last ban was the pushing point to me hating the game and the community

KennysDreamGirl2 votes

if your net, regardless of if it was the best you could get or not still isn't stable enough to be good consistently then idk what to tell you. and you still haven't shown any proof that you've shown riot clear evidence of people afking on purpose to troll and they haven't done anything. you can say "i have sent them clips" all you want but if you cant prove it nobody will believe you.

brunt jmz1 votes

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if your net, regardless of if it was the best you could get or not still isn't stable enough to be good consistently then idk what to tell you. and you still haven't shown any proof that you've shown riot clear evidence of people afking on purpose to troll and they haven't done anything. you can say "i have sent them clips" all you want but if you cant prove it nobody will believe you.

how do i link the clips im trying to drag and drop them in but it just plays the clip?

brunt jmz1 votes

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how do i link the clips im trying to drag and drop them in but it just plays the clip?

and for net at the time it was the best you could get in AUSTRALIA. ADSL2 was the best you could get at the time

KennysDreamGirl1 votes

but if the best you can get still isn't stable enough o be consistent then...idk what to tell you

i dont live in Australia obviously so i dont know anything about your guys internet and all that

brunt jmz1 votes

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but if the best you can get still isn't stable enough o be consistent then...idk what to tell you

i dont live in Australia obviously so i dont know anything about your guys internet and all that

just look it up you'll find AUS is prob the worst for net im not joking it sucks ask anyone from here

KennysDreamGirl1 votes

im not sure. only clips i ever link are through youtube

brunt jmz1 votes

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im not sure. only clips i ever link are through youtube

file:///C:/Users/New%20User/Documents/League%20of%20Legends/Highlights/8-4_OC1-201679130_02.webm

brunt jmz1 votes

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file:///C:/Users/New%20User/Documents/League%20of%20Legends/Highlights/8-4_OC1-201679130_02.webm

i dont have a clue how to show the clips

KennysDreamGirl1 votes

nothing happens with the link

brunt jmz1 votes

this is a quote from a troll im sure you will find this makes my point

I have loved this game for a long time, but over the years the troll problem has gotten worse and worse and Riot has done NOTHING to address it at all. Any effort they make is on banning the people that get frustrated at the trolls and say naughty words. Every time i bring this up though, it is claimed that Riot is banned trolls and that my experiences must be all delusion.

So i decided to troll. I decided to troll every ranked game until i got banned. I used all the trolling techniques. I built as troll as possible intentionally, i purposely fed, i would steal as many kills as possible and then go afk, i would afk farm the jg until my team lost, i would NEVER group with my team, i would ALWAYS steal a role or position in champ select, and then fill it with the worst possible champ, and i would do anything and everything in my power to make my team have as miserable a game as possible, EVERY SINGLE GAME until i got banned. I didnt just play badly, i played intentionally detrimental to my team and their moral. In fact, probably at least 25% of the games, i played good on purpose, only to go afk with all the gold and make my team lose.

Guess what, 250 ranked games, not a single ban. I ruined the gaming experience for 2,250 players, i negatively impacted matchmaking by single handedly altering the mmr of 2,250 players, i wasted at LEAST 937 hours of other peoples time. The only punishment i received was a chat ban before i started trolling because i was upset i was getting trolled and i got leaverbustered when my entire team lagged out. But NOT ONE SINGLE PUNISHMENT, or even warning, for trolling the living crap out of everyone all the time.

I did all the things that cause players to hate this game, and made every game i was in miserable, and I'm sure i garnered thousands of reports, but not even so much as a warning. This made me sick to stomach to do, but Riot has continued to deny this is a problem and promote delusional statistics to cover it up, and the only way to prove trolls don't get banned was to become a troll. I didn't enjoy becoming what has caused me so much frustration, but something, something batman quote.

This is unacceptable, this is atrocious, this is without defense. This account should have been banned within 5 games of trolling. This account should be permabanned, but instead got zero punishment for trolling.

I'm done with trolling now, i have proven my point. If riot and the community still want to pretend like it isnt a problem, then they can go ahead and let thousands upon thousands of games get trolled every day with no recourse. If Riot wants to read this and then ban my account now, great? But its pointless now, as the damage is already done and i wont be trolling anymore, but at least banning me now would prove they care even a little about trolls.

It's been 5 full seasons riot, and i have played every one of them, and the troll problem has never been worse. The only difference is now i know if i dare say a word to the trolls, i'll get banned. I would be really curious to know how many players got banned for raging on me during those 250 games, but im sure that would just make me that much more disgusted with you.

tl;dr - I trolled 250 ranked games with no punishment to prove Riot does absolutely nothing to address trolls.

Edit: I just want to point out that someone from Riot saw this and decided "naw, let him go, he doesnt verbally abuse his teammates so its cool"

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