Banned

Talonyte·Jul 19, 2019·1 votes·2,437 views

I was falsely banned. After my two chat restrictions, I reformed for 9 months. And I got full honor. Suddenly one game, I say bad a couple of times, noob also, because a feeding alistar in ranked was spam pinging me and saying way worse things. So it was supposed to go back to chat restriction cause I reformed, but it went to temp....??? Then eventually I got a perma. I never say anything worse than trash, and I rarely say that. just noob and bad sometimes. I don't know how saying bad and noob a couple of times skips my reform?? it was an error to ban me because I wasn't reported for 9 months and reform is a thing but I guess its bugged. I lost my level 210 account that I spent two years on and hundreds of dollars to an error in reform. Each time I go to riot support, they say that it "wasn't an error" but they don't even explain why. And it wasn't an error anyways sooo

51 Comments

rujitraJul 19, 20194 votes

Reform is not based on time or your claim you reformed. It is based on your behavior. I sincerely doubt you went from honor 0 or 1 to honor level 5 in 9 months, especially given that honor reset at the beginning of the season.

You also have no way of knowing you were never reported over 9 months.

TalonyteJul 19, 20192 votes

Ok I went high in honor not honor 5 sheesh and I had good behavior goodness.

rujitraJul 19, 20193 votes

"High honor", I doubt this too, because you were obviously either not playing enough to show reform, or you were still misbehaving.

TalonyteJul 19, 20192 votes

I played multiple games every day, so yes I played enough, and no I wasn't misbehaving. You can ask riot if they remember my riot support thing when I had honor 3 and didn't get seasonal rewards.

rujitraJul 19, 20193 votes

So, this is even more contradictory - honor 3 players were all given season rewards. Full stop. You would be the first person I have heard that had honor 3 at the end of the season but did not get their rewards (and there were a lot of complaints).

Look, the bottom line is this - you don't get to decide reform, Riot does. And given your defensive attitude here and the fact that we've caught you in what are at best you misspeaking and at worst you directly lying to us, I see no reason to think you were reformed in game. In fact, in other replies here, you display multiple hallmarks of toxic attitude - that it's okay as long as it's a "mild" insult, and that it's okay as long as the other player is doing something worse. Neither of those are indicative of reform.

I suspect that when you were communicating with the Support staff, you likely displayed some of the same behaviors you did here - they saw right through that and even if you did come close to showing reform, your communications to them shot you in the foot.

TalonyteJul 19, 20192 votes

So trolls In ranked are worse than people that say noob. that sure is fair! and not my fault I was scammed of hundreds of dollars from getting falsely banned.

rujitraJul 19, 20193 votes

In fact, trolls are given a 14 day ban on the first confirmed occurrence. You had two chances to reform before you were given a 14 day ban.

Your ban was not false, and you were not scammed, period. You seem to be unwilling to understand this, though, so I hope you have a nice day.

TalonyteJul 19, 20192 votes

It was an error. sorry you fail to see that.

JuleviJul 19, 20191 votes

Maybe you are willing to provide us more detailed and complete information? E.g. you already got asked what was the cause of your 14-day-ban.

TalonyteJul 19, 20192 votes

Ok. I was playing ranked as Urgot . Throughout the whole game Alistar is intentionally feeding the enemy team and I don't mind. But he also spam pings me and says super toxic stuff to me throughout the whole game. So I tell alistar don't flame me for no reason if you aren't even doing good. noob

GatekeeperTDSJul 19, 20192 votes

Then you need to speak with Riot support and tell them it was an error. Nobody here is Riot Support.

TalonyteJul 19, 20192 votes

I did. they directed me to here to get a dev

rujitraJul 19, 20192 votes

No, what they said is that you are requesting them to change the rules. They told you your punishment was not in error, and that they do not change the rules - they provide player support. You have gotten your final response from Riot on this matter - they have determined your punishment is not in error, and that it will not be removed. Your disagreement with the rules or with their determination does not change either of those.

KillerKelloggJul 19, 20193 votes

goodness you're annoying just stop talking

TalonyteAug 13, 20192 votes

yeah I mean that is kinda true he is being annoying.

TalonyteAug 15, 20192 votes

And I did reform buddy. 9 months is a thing.

rujitraAug 15, 20191 votes

No, you didn't, and your behavior in this thread shows you still have the same toxic attitude that was the problem.

MagicFlyingLlamaJul 19, 20192 votes

Chatlogs, please.

Imperial PandaaJul 19, 20194 votes

Logs could help identify what lead to punishment this time.

As for the past, 9 months doesn't actually tell us anything. It doesn't tell use how often you played in those 9 months. It doesn't tell us if you still called people bad/noob/etc; which would slow your reformation.

TalonyteJul 19, 20191 votes

I played every day and refused to use chat unless saying good job etc. reformation is about 3 months for a temp ban and that was a chat restriction sooo

Imperial PandaaJul 19, 20191 votes

3 months isn't a guarantee. That is/was a rough estimate. There is no magic number.

Edit: What was the cause of the 14 day ban? If you used hate speech or encouraged self harm, that gives an escalated punishment usually.

TalonyteJul 19, 20191 votes

Still though

Imperial PandaaJul 19, 20191 votes

Out of curiosity, do you remember what the Alistar said? Did you repeat any of what he said?

TalonyteJul 19, 20191 votes

Why would I repeat what he said. Ill give you a censored version. **** you idiot we are losing cause of your stupid *** losing the game. **** off. your ****. item 2056

Imperial PandaaJul 19, 20191 votes

Because people repeat stuff when they ask for reports. That is why I asked.

GatekeeperTDSJul 19, 20193 votes

I reformed for 9 months. And I got full honor. Suddenly one game, I say bad a couple of times, noob also

Doesn't sound reformed at all.

TalonyteJul 19, 20191 votes

It was ranked and I had a purposely feeding alistar that was spam pinging me for carrying the game. So it does sound like reform

GatekeeperTDSJul 19, 20192 votes

The rules don't say "You're allowed to flame people if they're being assholes."

TalonyteJul 19, 20191 votes

Yeah but saying noob doesn't make me skip reform. I know someone that was banned and 3 months later, even being toxic the whole time in reforming they got a chat restriction instead of perma ban.

TalonyteJul 19, 20191 votes

The rules do say "Competetive BSing is fine, but racial slurs have no place in league" also something like "games can get heated"

rujitraJul 19, 20192 votes

Insulting/flaming people is not competitive BSing.

Competitive BSing is things like "lol nice flash" after the enemy wastes it in lane.

TalonyteJul 19, 20191 votes

Buddy, saying noob is for things like that. Like when they waste ult for no reason im like what the noob lol

rujitraJul 19, 20192 votes

No, noob is an insult. Insulting people is not appropriate.

Competitive BS is not insulting - it's just that - BS. "nice flash lol" is different from "nice flash noob". One is an insult. One is simply poking fun.

TalonyteJul 19, 20192 votes

Not my fault that majority of league players get offended from saying noob once. Simply put, chill

rujitraJul 19, 20193 votes

You don't have to agree with the rules, but you do have to follow them. It is your fault if you refuse to follow the rules.

TalonyteJul 19, 20192 votes

Well I mean maybe riot needs to fix the rules then. That is not my fault their rules are biased

JuleviJul 19, 20191 votes

Fixing what point of their rules exactly?

TalonyteJul 19, 20192 votes

Just about everything, to be exact

rujitraJul 19, 20193 votes

To what protected or unchangeable class are they biased/against? It's not bias to favor the opinion of the majority over that of the minority - that's called polling/normal life.

TalonyteJul 19, 20192 votes

Minorities matter. Say (this is an example) that suddenly everyone that likes pizza in America is killed and the majority voted that. Its bad but like you said, apparently it isn't bias to favor majority.

rujitraJul 19, 20195 votes

This isn't voting to kill anyone. And the rules are clearly stated. You're allowed to provide your input to the rules. But you disagreeing does not give you the right to say "fuck the rules".

GatekeeperTDSJul 19, 20194 votes

Yeah but saying noob doesn't make me skip reform.

Yes, yes it does. You saying you're reformed doesn't mean anything if your actions don't back it up. The system considers you not reformed.

TalonyteJul 19, 20191 votes

Someone I know says way worse things and "reformed" for barely 3 months after temp ban saying bad stuff all the way through and went back to chat restrictions. So that's fair!

GatekeeperTDSJul 19, 20192 votes

I don't know what to tell you. The system has correctly punished you. What's it's doing or not doing for someone else is irrelevant.

TalonyteJul 19, 20191 votes

I am afraid that they haven't banned me correctly. Sorry you don't agree.