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Asking for reports chat restrictable? I'm so confused...

Eugenicz·3/11/2018, 5:07:51 AM·1 votes·270 views

A little over a week ago I logged into game and discovered I had a 25 game chat restriction. Chat log is here.

Game 1 Eugenicz: just mute and move on Eugenicz: no need to be toxic Eugenicz: i just want to win and toxic loses games Eugenicz: no use crying about it now tho Eugenicz: anyhow gl Eugenicz: it happens to me all teh time Eugenicz: as does people banning my champ cause its not meta Eugenicz: 2 mid Eugenicz: nvm azir going bot Eugenicz: lol Eugenicz: oh well Eugenicz: stupid minions Eugenicz: me and ekko both no summs :P Eugenicz: we flash ignited each toejhr Eugenicz: fk Eugenicz: hate that ekko ult Eugenicz: he should have died diving that deep Eugenicz: gj Eugenicz: ty Eugenicz: fk Eugenicz: no shroom trigger Eugenicz: how Eugenicz: thats so annoying Eugenicz: so annoying Eugenicz: damnit Eugenicz: garen fed af Eugenicz: not good Eugenicz: only if we let ourselves tilt Eugenicz: damnit Eugenicz: not yet Eugenicz: im not gonna vote yes Eugenicz: though i cant stop you cowards from doing so Eugenicz: idc Eugenicz: surrendering is cowardly and weak and ignorant Eugenicz: you never will get better if you just give up Eugenicz: and there will always be feeders, you gotta learn to work around them if you want to climb Eugenicz: its a competitive sport Eugenicz: and i dont like losing Eugenicz: leauge is competitive by nature Eugenicz: league is an esport... Eugenicz: and you're wrong. Eugenicz: is competitive Eugenicz: as its league Eugenicz: and? Eugenicz: doenst mean its not competitive Eugenicz: you like losing? Eugenicz: again gotta work around it Eugenicz: pick what? Eugenicz: when to try? Eugenicz: answer is always Eugenicz: never said i was Eugenicz: stop suicindg ulting Eugenicz: gl with leavebuster Eugenicz: damit Eugenicz: clicked a minion and screwed up my pathing Eugenicz: report noc ragequit when i refused to ff Eugenicz: tyrn isnt afk... Eugenicz: hes trying, just having a bad game Eugenicz: noc gave up Eugenicz: whether you like how hes playing or not you cant deny that hes trying Eugenicz: damn blitz Eugenicz: garen* Eugenicz: ggwp, report noc ragequit pls and ty Eugenicz: gj Eugenicz: and not inting too Eugenicz: now* Eugenicz: double report Eugenicz: who? Eugenicz: im not herefor jokes or games Eugenicz: here practicing teemo for ranked Eugenicz: yes draft queue times are too long at level 22 Eugenicz: this is my second account Eugenicz: i got my main since beta hacked and permaed Eugenicz: not much else i could do Eugenicz: was sorta my fault for using a master password but its still shitty Eugenicz: ggwp Game 2 Eugenicz: perfect Eugenicz: so glad im mid Eugenicz: i hate pant and zed should be ez Eugenicz: udyr need leash? Eugenicz: nice Eugenicz: ik Eugenicz: GJ Eugenicz: damnit Eugenicz: my b i misplayed that Eugenicz: damn Eugenicz: fking 3v1 Eugenicz: gj top Eugenicz: gj Eugenicz: holy Eugenicz: shit Eugenicz: udyr i need help mid now Eugenicz: when im back
Eugenicz: fk this Eugenicz: i got stunned and melted Eugenicz: cornered Eugenicz: udyr was there Eugenicz: fk this Eugenicz: who? Eugenicz: ? Eugenicz: u want me to afk? Eugenicz: are you serious? Eugenicz: no Eugenicz: im not leaving Eugenicz: i am reporting you tho Eugenicz: for negative attitude Eugenicz: and teemo mid usually goes fine for me fyi Eugenicz: yes mid Eugenicz: grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Eugenicz: i just cant get a 1v1 Eugenicz: when i get a 1v1 vs a lux or xerath or something i obliterate them Eugenicz: no you just havnt seen it Eugenicz: yes because they are squish Eugenicz: and no susatain Eugenicz: and less burst Eugenicz: as long as i dodge them Eugenicz: which i do Eugenicz: u cant really dodge most of zeds kit Eugenicz: unlike lux Eugenicz: welp Eugenicz: ezreal i have a question for you Eugenicz: do you realy think i would do better vs pant than zed? Eugenicz: just seems silly to the point where i dont know if your kidding Eugenicz: im asking ez a question Eugenicz: i didnt ask you sion Eugenicz: shall i mute you? Eugenicz: ez seriously Eugenicz: if teemo mid is bad Eugenicz: what is teemo top vs pant? Eugenicz: cause its no better Eugenicz: im asking seriously Eugenicz: thats an ad hominem Eugenicz: answer the question rather than making personal attacks please Eugenicz: try me Eugenicz: if you know how Eugenicz: i mean about pant Eugenicz: thats the question i want you to answer. Eugenicz: have you answered it yet? Eugenicz: no Eugenicz: i have as much right to type as you do Eugenicz: guys Eugenicz: why are you all shittalking me Eugenicz: im literally just asking a question Eugenicz: i dont get the league community some times Eugenicz: like seriously Eugenicz: why cant people just treat one antoehr with some deceny Eugenicz: ive played since beta ezreal Eugenicz: ive seen more than you im quite sure of that Eugenicz: more of league* Eugenicz: i have Eugenicz: look up my main Eugenicz: Mikameow Eugenicz: i played thresh top/adc Eugenicz: js Eugenicz: its not the champ/role its the player Eugenicz: and teamwork Eugenicz: tell that to 52% winrate Eugenicz: maybe 53 Eugenicz: not sure this patch Eugenicz: my team has been shittalking me all game im not gonna go die more so they can laugh and call me a feeder more Eugenicz: distraction worked! Eugenicz: ty pant Eugenicz: thought u could only mute all Eugenicz: thats a good one to know Eugenicz: gj Eugenicz: damn Eugenicz: ggwp

I couldn't see what I had done to earn me a chat restriction so I reached out to support. Below is their reply.

TICKET #33955407 What did I do wrong and how can I avoid doing it again?

Status Solved Ticket Submitted by: EUGENICZ Ticket assigned to: JENNY711 REGION North America THIS IS AN ACCOUNT REGISTERED ON THE PUBLIC BETA ENVIRONMENT (PBE) LANGUAGE English DO YOU KNOW WHY YOUR ACCOUNT WAS SUSPENDED OR RESTRICTED? I have received an in-client behavior reform card WHAT PAYMENT METHOD ARE YOU USING TO PAY BACK YOUR CHARGEBACK? I AM HAPPY TO ALLOW OTHER PLAYERS TO SEE MY SUPPORT TICKET IF IT WILL HELP OTHER PLAYERS SOLVE SIMILAR ISSUES. What did I do wrong and how can I avoid doing it again? EUGENICZ March 1st 2018, 4:11:59 pm Hello, I just logged in to and found that I had received a 25 game chat restriction for a couple of games in which I had thought I had done an extraordinarily good job of keeping my cool. In both cases I was attacked for playing Teemo mid and instead of responding in kind I politely explained why I enjoy playing Teemo mid and moved on. When toxicity continued to be directed at me I calmly told my abuser that I would be reporting them and continued to play my best, once again without lashing out in response. In one of the two games another player ragequit and sat in base when I refused to surrender and I asked others to report him for ragequitting. Is any of what I did in violation of the rules or am I missing something? I'm just very confused about why I was chat restricted and if I don't know what exactly I did wrong I have no way of knowing what not to do again. Please let me know so I can work on whatever needs improvement. I will attach the in game chat log as a word document just in case you can't access it. Thank you.

Untitled document.docx (9157 Bytes) JENNY711 March 3rd 2018, 9:17:36 pm Hey there,

Certainly. I can explain to you why your account received a 25 game chat restriction. I actually agree a lot of your beginning chat was pretty positive and you handled their negativity pretty well. However, it eventually got to a point where it was sort like retaliation almost. When you say you are going to report them, that's the same as saying you're going to punish them. In this case, you were going to report them for their negativity directed towards you. Pretty much we don't want players retaliating. I do recommend that you mute them and report them but there isn't any reason to call it out. These things just aren't nice to say. Whether they are true or not, this only makes things worse, not better. In addition, towards the end of the game, there was a lot of calling others other for their negativity. Chat is really only there to communicate strategies in a civil manner.

I understand other players can be negative or provocative but being negative in chat wasn't the right way to handle the situation. A chat restriction is more a nudge that this kind of behavior isn't very respectful and is out of line. It also means it might be best that you use chat more conservatively, mute players instead of responding, and focus on yourself and your own gameplay. If you feel the need to respond to their negativity, take a moment to recognize if what you're about to say will help the team or create a bigger rift. If you're not sure, it might be best to say nothing instead.

My hope is that you mute those players and report them instead of responding to them. If you'd like more tips on how to prevent further penalties, let me know!

I hope this helps. Good luck!

Jenny711 Player Support Specialist "Let my blade speak the law"

I'm still super confused though. Riot support said that "When you say you are going to report them, that's the same as saying you're going to punish them" and that my saying I would report them led to my chat restriction, but in this post: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/PzY1ArN3-we-dont-ban-people-for-asking-for-reports A Riot employee says that asking for reports isn't a bannable offence and that it will only flag the system if it leads to harassment. That seems to directly conflict with what I was told by Riot support and furthermore I don't see how anything I said or did can be called harassment. The other players in the game were bombarding me with toxicity and I was responding to the parts of it that made enough sense such as ("Teemo doesn't belong mid"), that I thought a logical reply might calm them down. I didn't want to mute them all because muting chat impairs teamwork and I want to win. Am I missing something?

7 Comments

Kei1433/11/2018, 5:14:21 AM5 votes

Are you missing the part where Riot Tantram / NA Kayle says "If you are asking for reports alone, it won't do anything. But if you use that as a spring board to harass others, it will be punishable" ?

MagicFlyingLlama3/11/2018, 5:19:20 AM2 votes

That was pretty toxic even without asking for reports.

Basically, doing it once and explaining why is ok, but spamming it to harass a team member is totally not OK.

It is also utterly pointless, because one report is all it takes to trigger a review.

Ge3Z3/11/2018, 5:53:35 AM1 votes

Here are some Phrases I think would stand out to me as being Passive aggressive or toxic. Just remember we cant see the other side of the chat like riot.

Eugenicz: just mute and move on Eugenicz: no need to be toxic (Reason: Although you say this it doesn't show later making me think its Passive aggressive.)

Eugenicz: im not gonna vote yes Eugenicz: though i cant stop you cowards from doing so Eugenicz: surrendering is cowardly and weak and ignorant (Firstly i wouldnt directly say what you voted. Something along the lines of "I think we can win." would be better but calling teammates cowards for not stay in a "shitty" game they think they are going to loose is a bit toxic.)

Eugenicz: report noc ragequit when i refused to ff Eugenicz: noc gave up Eugenicz: ggwp, report noc ragequit pls and ty Eugenicz: double report (Three or four times you mention Noc and him leaving/Reporting him.)

Game 2

Eugenicz: i am reporting you tho Eugenicz: for negative attitude (Once again Coming back to the first quotes. It makes it seem as if you are being passive agressive.)

Eugenicz: im asking ez a question Eugenicz: i didnt ask you sion Eugenicz: shall i mute you? Eugenicz: ez seriously Eugenicz: im asking seriously Eugenicz: thats the question i want you to answer. Eugenicz: have you answered it yet? Eugenicz: im literally just asking a question Eugenicz: i dont get the league community some times (I would call this harassment. He clearly does not want to answer that questions and you keep mentioning it. Even if its about the matchup.

Eugenicz: why cant people just treat one antoehr with some deceny Eugenicz: ive played since beta ezreal Eugenicz: ive seen more than you im quite sure of that (This one is saying treating others with decency and then you go on to explain why you are better than him.)

I'm only here giving you from my eyes what i see when i read these chat logs. I didnt take into consideration what champs were playing or what your team may have been saying. But as the saying goes "A fight has two stories" I'm sure if i had seen the team logs i would be pointing fingers elsewhere. however Riot has to look into these with a neutral eye and ear.