As someone who has only played league for about a month or so I need to say some stuff after some of the things I've experienced
If you create a smurf don't moan about everyone being bad. Believe it or not, that's how a smurf works.
Don't moan at us if we do something wrong. Give us advice instead, Unlike you, we're still learning the game. Moaning at us will just make us not want to play anymore.
That is all I have to say as of now.
I eat ass so hmu80 votesThey smurf to pick on lower levels to boost ego lmfao.
Armstice2 votesMost people are smurfing because they aren't playing well and don't want to tank their main account, or their queue times are too long on their main.
ImmortalBloodCY2 votesThe que times are too long because they keep playing the same role.
Muddafragot43 votesA note to new players: GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN! SAVE YOURSELVES!
PaladinNO6 votesA note to new players: GET OUT WHILE YOU STILL CAN! SAVE YOURSELVES!
This should do the trick:
Youtube link to Event Horizon clip removed due to gory content.
#**"Liberate tutemet ex inferis" **
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######I know the Latin grammar is incorrect, but as it was said like that in the movie, and in the spirit of the joke, let it be, please.
Hollandiae5 votesWhere we're going we don't need eyes to play
PaladinNO2 votesQuality meme for a great movie. :)
Viktorious Sayph7 votesOnce you are in, you can never get out :'(
Votable Jester3 votesI can quit any time I want! ;P
Cipse22 votes
- If you create a smurf don't moan about everyone being bad. Believe it or not, that's how a smurf works.
Those are probably the same people that complain about everyone being bad in their main account as well.
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notice me Sin pi7 voteswhat smurfs wanna do: 1 vs 9 newbies what smurfs actually end up doing: 1 vs 9 other smurfs
God of the Cats7 votesif someone is smurfing, and they bitch at a bunch of level 10s for doing bad (against more smurfs), I guarantee they won't care if you stop playing and will probably straight up tell you to uninstall. I have several smurf accounts to fall back on when I wanna experience the grind to 30 again and I see this toxicity so much. it's ridiculous really. I try to help everyone I can when I play on my low level accounts but honestly the smurfs usually outnumber the actual newbies, and there's a bunch of people teaming up on the one guy on the team that's genuinely learning how the game works.
Borbland6 votesI never understood why all veteran players create smurf accounts. I am the only one from my friends who doesnt own a smurf, and some of them even own 2 or more smurfs.
Risk of Fate11 votesSome people want to stomp the newbies, others have low-level friends/used as a teaching account. I'm sure others like me made to get away from the stresses of being level 30/Ranked.
Just Blame Jenny4 votesSome smurfs have mains accounts in other regions, too. I'm an NA player that frequently plays with EUW friends; they have smurf accounts in the NA for that purpose.
Leetri4 votesSome, like I, have a smurf on another server to play ARAMs with friends from another part of the world.
Dukues2 votesI never understood why all veteran players create smurf accounts. I am the only one from my friends who doesnt own a smurf, and some of them even own 2 or more smurfs.
its nice having multiple accounts.
To be honest if you leveling a new account after a couple games you play vs mostly other smurfs anyways.
People who makes smurfs to stomp low levels are assholes. But leveling a smurf to have a second account is not a problem and is common.
Common reasons:
ThePartyLeader6 votesThe problem is that most smurfs aren't platinum or diamonds having fun. It's bronze and silvers who feel bad about themselves so they make a smurf to feel good. Then people who don't know how to play the game beat them so they go back into blaming others instead of admitting they are bad.
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DarkRitual3 votesIf you think you improved enough to not be stuck in bronze, because its obviously their teammates faults they keep losing games and can't climb.
Rook Loux8 votesThere is something less stressful about playing on a smurf. Some people even do better on their smurf than on their main.
ThePartyLeader2 votesWhy would you make a smurf for ranked if you are in bronze in your main account? wtf?
Same reason people who get bullied bully other people. They lose hey made fun of so they often make another account thinking they'll dominate these new scrubs to make themselves feel better.
Supreme Senpai692 votesTbh elo hell is insanely hard to climb out of when you get 5 LP for a win but lose 10 LP for a loss. It's honestly easier to just level a new account and get a clean slate.
Morality Coach1 votesI trolled all of season 5 in silver 5 and had Wood MMR. Got placed in Bronze 5 after going 8-2 in placements. I'm in mid gold now, ELO hell is super easy to get out of on any character.
I'm not even a good player, I just know a few strats.
Supreme Senpai691 votesYour personal experience doesn't reflect the average experience of all league players. I'm glad it was easy for you, but it's very difficult for most people, because a decent player will win around half or more of their games. But with that MMR, winning half of your games results in a steady decline. You'd need to win over 66% of your games in the hypothetical I mentioned tbh. But down in that MMR, everybody sucks. So it's like... very hard to carry/climb. Definitely possible and entirely doable, it would just take an insanely high amount of games.
Morality Coach1 votesNo, I've taken many accounts out of wood MMR very easily on every role. If you can't do this you are straight up bad period. Start watching a streamer that talks about what he's thinking about while playing every day until you learn how to play. Stop playing characters you aren't able to mechanically play. If you've never been in Gold and you're not a Nasus main at this point then you deserve where you are.
My winrate in Silver 1 right now on one of my accounts I'm playing is 80% for the last 20 games. I am not a good player either, not even Diamond level or even Plat really.
It is always your fault period no matter what. This is the first step to getting better.
Supreme Senpai691 votesI had an 83% win rate on Janna across 20 or so games too, it's not hard if you get good teams.
It's not always your fault even remotely. You're confusing "There's always something you could have done better."
For example, if you go 20/0/0 but only had 100 CS, you could've CS'd better. You can still improve. But that doesn't mean that if you CS'd better you could have won the game, nor does it mean it's your fault that 3 of your teammates AFK'd. There are totally outlier games that you can play perfectly and still lose. It's a team game, after all. But if you play an infinite amount of games you'll absolutely hit your deserved rank.
That's what ELO hell is though. The amount of games it takes to hit your deserved rank increases dramatically as compared to an unranked account. That's what people mean when they say it's "harder." The actual games may not be more difficult, but the amount of time it takes is.
Morality Coach1 votesSilver support doesn't count, that's totally random if you win or not unless you hard carry with Zyra or Brand. I'm talking about playing a real role and playing full league of legends where you have to CS.
In Silver if you think you are smarter than other Silvers you should be a tank that farms and can 1v5 to dictate where the fights start.
Supreme Senpai691 votesYou just said you're in silver 1 and you're consistently in "wood mmr" yet silver supports don't count? Well, you're not totally wrong honestly. If you win or lose mostly does seem random since you can shield a good ADC to make them immortal and win, or shield a bad ADC and he'd still die and you'd lose.
Even so, if winning or losing is totally random, how is it "always your fault period no matter what?" There seems to be some exceptions to that rule.
(Idk who downvoted you tbh)
Morality Coach1 votesYeah I have like 5 accounts, some are in Bronze, some are in Silver some are in high gold, support "mains" are usually Silver with Bronze mechanics and are bad. I can play every support well, hook, sustain or damage.
Don't be a support "main" these guys never climb cause Riot wants them in Bronze where most of the players are.
First play Draven to learn micro and prioritize catching your axes over any other thing, even if you take harass, then play Nasus to learn how to farm. Congrats, you will now be instantly gold if you stick to Nasus, simple as that.
From there you can branch out into whatever you want to play. Being a support "main" in Silver though 9 out of 10 times you're just bad. No farm, no micro.
Supreme Senpai691 votesWell supports and junglers deal in macro, not micro. They do things such as ward and have map awareness, often knowing where each member of the enemy team is/could be even if there's no vision on them. They know not to overextend and know to poke/harass, and when to make trades.
ADCs focus on the micro, since they're so gold reliant. Mid laners focus on the roaming and top laners focus on 1v1s. To be honest, people should play every role. They'd be like the perfect league player if they were decent at every role.
I agree that it's hard to climb as a support. You'd have to play something like Brand or Velkoz. But to say 9/10 supports are bad is just silly. It's more like 9/10 players are bad, not just supports. Like legit almost everyone is bad at the game. Some of the worst players I've seen are top laners and some of the best are supports, but there's also wood 5 supports and diamond smurf top laners. It just depends.
Morality Coach1 votesIt's easy to climb as support if you have the micro of a skilled ADC. 9 out of 10 supports are noobs who think they deserve gold though.
Supports are legit some of the worst players in the game because they don't understand the cs game and don't position themselves correctly.
It's impossible to be a good support without being a good ADC. You simply won't understand where the pressure is on the minion wave, where to stand at what point, how to deny the enemy cs, how to help your adc get cs.
I can climb on any support all day if I want to, it's dumb to do in Silver IMO. For some reason Janna has a high winrate in Silver but I just don't see it.
Supreme Senpai691 votesAh, there it is. Glad I didn't just downvote you and go "lul troll." Yeah, I've played ADC a few times (I'm a support main) and noticed it's actually pretty hard to CS and poke. Like at first I'd always complain about my ADC never auto attacking the damn enemies to get fed after I chunk them for 80% of their HP or stun them. But it actually is hard at first. You can't do it and expect your ADC to follow up when they're not in range, otherwise you'll be caught out.
I still wouldn't say 90% of supports are bad at the game, but I totally agree playing ADC makes you a better support. I'd even argue the reverse is true, because I do still see ADCs that are blind and only farm minions when there's easy kills that are being spoonfed to them. Like farm is good and all but if you're only gonna farm and that's it, there's not much of a reason to have a support. That's when I roam to mid and secure kills there.
I think Janna has a high winrate because she keeps champions like Zac off of the ADC completely. I don't think it's her E really, but rather how she hard counters divers. A lot of people in this elo spam Zac or Xin. There's also Rengar and Khazix and the likes.
koreansmurf87513 votesYo, gold player here, I'll show u the ropes if u want (add: cresmont) I don't get why ppl complain that ppl are bad THATS GOOD it means you don't belong there, so prove it and move up :D Hope I'll see you on the fields of justice :^$
Finn Teh Human3 votesYeah I think it's really unfair to new players. It's one thing to level an account but another to use it to bully new players by being toxic to them. When I was new I nearly quit because of it. Trust me it gets better. The only people who do that to bitch at newer players are the people who can't play against their own elo.
Synnx73 votes^ at the 2nd sentence. Stay away from this game. It went down the drain since season 3. This incompetent company ruined the game
Abiddon10 votes^ at the 2nd sentence. Stay away from this game. It went down the drain since season 3. This incompetent company ruined the game
Yet you still play it..........and comment on message boards.
PaladinNO2 votesI too think this game went downhill after season 4. Only reason I am still here is to see if things ever get better.
But my incentive to play LoL has gone from genuinely interested and passionate about the game to pure passtime.
Riot Games, now Tencent, has gone from a small company with "a game for games, by gamers" to being too big for their own good.
Votable Jester2 votesThere have been some good and some bad changes. Overall though I think they've been for the best. If this game hadn't continued to change, I would probably have grown bored of it as I have other online games. Even the bad changes at least bring something new. Not saying I like the bad changes (mostly dislike changes in mage itemization, but not gonna get into that here), but at least the game isn't static.
Maiziea3 votesThose players are just bad themselves lol don't listen to them, even if they gave you advice it wouldn't help you much tbh. There's a reason they get matched with new players on their smurfs.
I'm no challenger god or anything but w hen I create a smurf my first match is literally impossible to lose, I can faceroll 1v7896 and win the game in a short amount of time playing just about anything.
And after that match every game consists of at least 8 smurfs on both teams combined, and most of those are still easy wins, then another 5 games and it's 10 smurfs each game.
So yea just don't bother listening to them because there's most likely nothing useful they can tell you. A tip I'd give you is either play with friends if you have any that play league or play co-op vs AI, for me those two were all I did until I was around level 25, though not everyone finds co-op vs AI challenging enough so if you don't want to play bots then don't.
But personally I think you can learn a lot more from bot games than from normal games at this point of your learning process since there's no pressure to perform well it gives you all the freedom to experiment with new champions and really get a good idea of the basics of this game.
Oh and you can mute people btw, there's nothing wrong with muting your teammates if you don't feel like listening to them. And generally if they say one negative thing it won't be followed up by something useful but rather more negativity.
61939590DEL12 voteslol if a challenger Lv player is smurfing, wow he must have a f##king boring life.
[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]
Joseraph8 votesEver watch one punch man? Life is pretty boring when you're the best
Zelorxon2 votesMoan.
Garfields Hungry2 votesHonestly even if i try and give advice they think im being an asshole the one time i said something and it worked it was when i told the enemy adc that their build path was inefficient they listened and i said add me il support you one game and give tips he was bronze but had good mechanics but awful positioning and didnt understand trading of summoner spells or even auto trades we played like 3 games on skype and like a month later he was like thanks all the tip got me to silver 1 going to gold now it actually made me feel good about my self
Neidox2 votesSmurfs are the most retarded thing in this kind of game. Its not like an mmo where you can create a new character/class. It is literally the same thing you will do on your main account, except on their main accounts they actually get wrecked. Smurfing shouldn't be allowed. It adds nothing new to the player experience except for a negative impact on new players.
