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Welp i got banned riot read here please

XeroMMR··2 votes·1,501 views

Well to start this off im obviously not a very good person.. I can admit im toxic ffs in my videos however my youtube is small like very small I even say im toxic. However its quiet obvious that riot you guys just are not in my favor, there are certain types of people in this world that simply get on your nerves be for real right here riot you have these too.. don't lie about that.. They get you in and over your head and sometimes you just lose I well if not every day every other day that's what this game brings, people who simply are annoying, yes im toxic sure am. However when I encounter these certain type of people it is not easy to not lose your cool. Typing is communication and if the other people on the other side of receiving the messages take it into the wrong way how is that the senders fault? well I really cant speak much on that matter because you guys removed my other post even though I had clear proof of someone LITERALLY saying I hope you get cancer and your parents get shot. HOWEVER if I were to step out of line I get shitted on by riot?! now I can admit multiple times I am toxic but if you were to go through my messages, had I ever told some one that their parents should be shot? NO, most of the toxic messages consist of me literally calling people dumb, retards (not in the down syndrome way(most of the time anyways) but just plain stupid) because people do stupid things, is really hard for someone to not lose it over stupid crap right? now don't get me wrong some people don't lose their cool easily they got it made, SOME. Truly though over there at riot how many of you lose your cool sometimes... ATLEAST sometimes.. Truly. So hear me out for my key point I can be banned for calling people dumb however on the other hand someone can say I hope your parents are shot and get away with it? How fucking great of a person they are huh? How great?

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Sarutobi2 votes

If people are lying to the enemy team them reporting you for something you aren't doing isn't going to harm you. You cannot report someone for afk and they see you playing. Also nothing can be done about people trolling for the most part. It's the sad reality. You can leave the game but then you suffer LeaveBuster.

All in all from your original post it seems like you are trying to combat toxic behavior wth your own toxicity. Which has never been right. You accepted the rules and have to follow them.

If you are getting that much bad luck with teammates I would suggest finding a small group to play with. I've been playing solo for a number of years with the occasional friend playing with me and I rarely get people like that in my games.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

certain types of people in this world that simply get on your nerves

We all come across those people, and it sucks for all of us. You will never be able to completely avoid them, but you can mitigate how much they bother you if you take appropriate measures.

  • The first and most common is to simply mute rude players as soon as they show their true colors. It is doubtful their behavior will improve throughout the match, so cut your losses and shut them up. Pings are more than enough for the vast majority of useful communication in a game so it's ok to do so.

  • Second is to preemptively mute everyone. I don't suggest this because most people aren't dicks and have nice or useful things to say (or are at least bearable), but if you're the type of person to get tilted immediately before you can even counter-mute them then maybe cutting off all chat communication is what you need.

  • Third is to severely limit chat from your end instead of muting them. This would be either rebinding your Enter key to something else so you are physically unable to use chat easily, moving the chat box off your screen, or even editing your config file to shrink your chat box so much it's invisible (-150 size should do it).

  • Completely change your outlook and response to their behavior. This is a feat of strong will and probably something you'd have to make a considerable effort over time to accomplish. Simply telling you to "not get mad" is condescending and unlikely to help, so just work on that but use the other methods in the meantime.

Typing is communication and if the other people on the other side of receiving the messages take it into the wrong way how is that the senders fault?

You can't control their response, only what you send. Just be mindful that criticism, even if you personally find it constructive, is not usually taken to heart by complete strangers on the internet who are already aggravated. If you can't say it without being negative or they do not want your advice, just don't give it to them. Just think of when you make a mistake like step into a skillshot and die; how do you feel when your allies respond with "Wow, really dude you're feeding?". You know you died and of course you're going to try not to, they aren't helping!

had I ever told some one that their parents should be shot?

While things like that is crossing the line and may be grounds for an immediate ban, creating a negative environment for the other players at all is an issue, and if you do it frequently it adds up. Every hour you spend in a game is ~9 hours of other people's time and they are real people, so be considerate of what they have to put up with; they are just trying to compete in a fun and fair environment the same as you. In other words, enjoy yourself but not at the expense of others.

someone can say I hope your parents are shot and get away with it?

If you reported them then it will be in their case for review once they get reported too many times. Even if they do not immediately get punished sleep well knowing you brought them closer to it (you do not get a punishment notification unless your report triggered it). Some get away with it, yes, but the system is lenient so that it punishes the people that are consistently toxic and not as many that just had a bad day.

XeroMMR2 votes

If you reported them then it will be in their case for review once they get reported too many times. Even if they do not immediately get punished sleep well knowing you brought them closer to it (you do not get a punishment notification unless your report triggered it). Some get away with it, yes, but the system is lenient so that it punishes the people that are consistently toxic and not as many that just had a bad day.

Ok well, no I did not report them because I made a forum post in which I thought well hey I got this proof in a video I put in the time so they wouldn't have to find it. In the chat it said "I hope your parents are shot and you get cancer". Yes I am toxic but riot had removed my post simply saying this "Hey Realarrowcraft,

We understand that you want to get word out about this player and their in-game behaviors but this is not the correct avenue to get attention on them. Please continue to use our in-game reporting system to put these players through our behavioral systems".

So yes, I understand bad days do occur and from the times I have been chat restricted it takes about 3 games im guessing from simply calling people straight dumb and it is true I do it a lot unfortunately it will most likely lead me into getting a permanent ban instead of a 14 day ban. However the chat is just something I use and most likely wont stop using it to tell the players my opinion and most of the time it is me telling them they are stupid for what they did as an action in the game or sometimes just stupid for what they type.. However do I do it every game? no, I don't but it is very often in which I personally do. We are human and we make mistakes, everyone fucking knows this but I personally think as a race in which nobody truly wants to be wrong, nobody wants to be worse than another person at anything truly. I think humans just as people we are all dumb and straight stupid. Now don't get me wrong there is really smart people in the world but all of us are dumb in different ways. Truly I guess the point im tring to make is that I can slip up 3 games In a row by just saying people are dumb. but if I were to personally link a video right, and in my post about this person that told me "i hope your parents are shot and you get cancer", right, well videogamedunkey im sure you know about his incident anyways, he almost said something like that, obviously not what this person said but he was banned in the middle of his game, because of that one slip up. On the other hand this person cant? Im not quiet sure what dunky said word by word but if I recall he said I hope you are gunned down in the street or something like that. right I call people dumb I get banned people can say I hope you die or parentsdie, then they don't you see that's my point. in reality this post is most likely not getting me anywhere, but to sum it up instead of perma ban onto my account in which I personally think will most likely happen id rather just be perma banned in chat, team chat and all chat. because id rather be able to play and not talk then not to play at all you know?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

About that post that was removed, the moderators (which are a third party, not Riot) will tell you to use the post-game lobby reporting system, but if you were unable to or think it's not enough you can submit a Support Ticket under the I have a question > Game & Features > General Questions category with your video/screenshots. Try to only use a ticket if the offense is very severe, particularly if someone's health is at risk.

it will most likely lead me into getting a permanent ban instead of a 14 day ban.

Punishment is done in 4 tiers;

  • 10 game chat restriction
  • 25 game chat restriction
  • 14 day account ban
  • Permanent account ban

Each time you are punished (for anything) it'll move up one step. Severe offenses may skip multiple steps, but for typical negative behavior just one step at a time. Over a long period of time and after showing reform you can drop down one step at a time, so once you're at a 14 day ban it's possible to not always be at immediate risk of a permaban.

videogamedunkey

It was confirmed that the match his video centered on (with the Malphite) was not actually the one that resulted in his ban. His ban was the result of severe behavior over a long period of time. The dude was a dick and had it coming.

permanent chat restriction

Unfortunately Riot does not consider giving those at this time. The system used to be to give chat restrictions for chat offenses no matter how many times you got punished, but people were generally unfazed by this and just used their limited chat to keep flaming, with chat restrictions in the thousands. With the risk of a ban ahead of them, people are more likely to improve their behavior, and reform is the goal of the system, not silence.

Some people advocate a "personal permamute option" so that you can squelch yourself and be unable to speak in-game or turn the option off until the match is over. I don't know if Riot has any interest in this, but all their manpower is in the League Client Update right now so it may be some time before we get improvements to the player behavior systems like that.

XeroMMR1 votes

Well im just that one step away is there anyway to make it where I just can not type like CAN NOT no matter what type as I already said I would rather just not be able to type at all you know the chat restricts give you the message every 4 minutes id rather just not be able to type AT ALL? to your knowledge how long does it take for you to go down a step also?

DoctorWolf181 votes

Yet like I posted before on my threads recently about me getting perma banned. Riot does none of those things I have shown proof of people using homophobic and racial slurs death threatening me and way worse. Yet I told them I get toxic but the stuff I said is nothing that bad I never once used homophobic or racial slurs or anything bad. I never even used the f word the insult one for gay people nope never used it but no I get banned for getting upset yeah really fair.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Cursing isn't a problem, it's being a jerk and creating a negative environment for the other players.

  • "Fuck I missed my skillshot" isn't a problem
  • "You suck, noob" is a problem

Like I said to the OP, while extreme behavior like the use of homophobic slurs can get you escalated to a higher punishment instantly, any negative behavior may result in punishment eventually if consistent and reported enough.

DoctorWolf181 votes

Cursing isn't a problem? I am not saying your lying but that's just not true I never at all intended to be a jerk. Yes I said mostly fuck that's it when I got upset but also telling the enemy team to report for reasons why yeah oh don't say it just do it. So your telling me if I have to suffer and suffer a match were my team follows me everywhere just to steal my farms to prevent me from leveling up get money to get items oh and lie to get me in trouble if I just give up cause I can't play at all cause there preventing me from doing anything. And wanting to tell the enemy team if they ask if I am afk or my team says oh report me I afk and I try to explain I get punished. I hate having to oh well just report them after match that doesn't do anything if people are going to do that they should be insta punished not me.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Cursing isn't a problem? I am not saying your lying but that's just not true

If you don't believe me that's fine, you can just not curse in addition to the other things. It certainly won't hurt.

if I have to suffer and suffer a match

There's nothing you can do to stop them, but that doesn't mean you have to make it worse. The best revenge you can get against a troll is to not let them ruin your game. Most people just flame when they want to piss you off, but when someone is following you around and trying to steal your CS or get you killed, adjust your play so that you aren't expecting it to not happen; don't follow their engages because they'll leave you to die, don't worry about losing CS and just get what you can, and just play to the best of your ability around them.

my team says oh report me I afk and I try to explain I get punished

False reports will not do anything to you, so there is no need to explain or defend yourself. When you take the troll's bait and get into an argument you become another problem that the other players have to deal with, and reports against you become valid. Do not let that happen or the troll wins. Your responses to them, whether negative or positive, have no effect on the validity of your reports against a troll; your responses only affect the validity of reports against you.

DoctorWolf181 votes

Yet you do not understand Nami. I avoid and avoid them I refuse to help defending lanes and try to do my own thing but guess what no matter what they follow me somtimes if I just decide to walk around base they stay and follow me to.

But no I did get punished no one understands cause no one was in the match with me to see or well cause there is no damn replays.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

I do understand you, and again, what they did is irrelevant. Your reaction to it is the issue. If you feel your ban was an error and you wish to contest it, please submit a Support Ticket. There's nothing more I can do for you.

DoctorWolf181 votes

I have Nami and it was a error not right i had reformed myself two times this year that is proof enough that I can change but they refuse to give me a different player specialist and the one I have right now is very rude and I refuse to be nice to her for what she did before. So I made another ticket still upset but in a more calm way.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

If you're having a legitimate issue with Player Support, could you post your conversation with them here? If there is really a problem, not just you not accepting their decision, I can pass it on to see if another specialist will look into it.

DoctorWolf181 votes

Uh I really don't want to cause the one with this certain specialist I am like actually being toxic to her. I can send you the chat in a different way just one she is rude and I have someone I know that she is being rude. She says that the made a decision when she denied my request to have a different one she is not listening to me at all. I accept there "decision" but I think it's just hers cause I haven't talked to any other ones and I have talked to other people and I can name them and they will say that I am nice and kind and nice to chat with. But her no she is just the worst because if I posted it people will say I am the problem.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Even if you are rude to them they aren't really allowed to be rude back. It's very difficult to always be nice even when your job is to answer disgruntled customers all day long so if one of them breaks you gotta give them some leeway, but if they are refusing to do their job over it that is an issue.

If you need someone else to handle your ticket that can be done.

DoctorWolf181 votes

Well I was never rude to her when we first spoke sometime back. But when I legit was worried to report to them that somehow someone got mad at me for being nice this is what I said. "How is everyone's week and day going" this person flipped on me and at the last second before match started I saw my mothers name my address and ip address. Her response and I showed it to someone else who knows when someone is being rude it was basically in a way f u she didn't have to say it but how she replied was. That's why I wont be nice to her ever again if she had said nicer I would give her leeway relaxed but she didn't. And she is still being snarky at me. And I want someone else please. My ticket is the one with well fowarding after they will know which one it is.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

I'm not going to ask my Player Support contacts to take a look if I can't determine that she is being unreasonable.

DoctorWolf181 votes

I never asked for that I just want to have a different person to talk to cause my ban was a error and not right and I want to have a reasonable person to talk to about it.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

I know, and that is what I am saying I would ask them to do...

DoctorWolf181 votes

Sorry just I haven't been able to sleep since the ban this game was everything to me I have no friends in the real life I love this game I was able to have fun be happy. But no I just lost all my friends my money and the thing I love so much.

DoctorWolf181 votes

I have tried to be calm with but she is being rude as hell and refuses to let me to talk to someone else and doesn't care about anything I say. Please help me get someone else to talk to Nami.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

I offered to request that but twice you said you didn't want that...I need you to show me the ticket conversation that they are being rude first though, because I'm not going to waste another Rioter's time if she's not being rude.

TL;DR - Share the conversation in the ticket and I will. Censor her name out when posting it.

XeroMMR1 votes

ACTUALLY doctorwolf18 is very incorrect there are replays just not replays of the chat. Its a website called replay.gg it keeps track of most of your ames and all you have to do is type the code in your command prompt to watch the replay!

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Not really an issue here. Even if he provided replays for us, Riot can already see what happened through the game data so it's not needed.

XeroMMR1 votes

can you even truly be unbanned? such as appeal?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Sure, if the ban was an error or the Rioter(s) that manually review your case think the punishment was too harsh. The overwhelming majority of the time the Rioters agree with the system though.

XeroMMR1 votes

where in the support ticket area would you be able to do that anyways? seem I made one but not quiet sure in the correct spot. I made it in account and recovery.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

That works. If you're ever not sure, I like to put them in Game & Features > General Questions. They will get forwarded to the appropriate department.

XeroMMR1 votes

in your opinion, you see in my post I explained i got banned for calling people dumb for in game actions but not real life capabilities, I call them stupid, idiots, dumbass, mental, and retard. I wouldn't call anyone this in real life because well I cant lie its rude, but I don't mean real life capabilities I mean for their in game actions. The only thing I can see being toxic there is the word retard. what is your opinion about this?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

When people think "toxicity can get you punished", they often have a too narrow view of what toxicity is to be accurate in that statement.

It's more appropriate to say "negativity can get you punished". Any action is either positive, neutral, or negative. If you simply categorize an action into one of those you can determine if you shouldn't be doing it. Your average 'negativity' like calling someone dumb isn't likely to get you punished by itself, but if you do this alot it can add up.

Ahtsuko1 votes

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Deep Terror Nami2 votes

You do it a little bit and most people will probably not be bothered. You keep doing it throughout the match and people will be annoyed. You need to put aside the notion that only "offensive" chat is considered negative.

As for doing that all over the boards, please stop. While it may not be so clearly defined as negative behavior in-game, the boards Universal Rules certainly does;

  • Posting content not related to the discussion
  • Making repetitive non-constructive or low effort content
DoctorWolf181 votes

Well I am going to go to take a nap cause I hurt and am tired had to re open a ticket cause the person refuses to listen and get someone else. And also posted the response they gave about that event and the thing is like pages long so my fingers hurt.

XeroMMR1 votes

what in hell is this ahtsuko guy going on about?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

He put an auto-correct program on so he sends gibberish instead of insults to avoid getting banned when he can't help but flame. Just ignore it.

ModPrandine

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what in hell is this ahtsuko guy going on about?

Basically they apparently have 4 permabanned accounts and have received 2 2-week bans as well. Their logic is that they can't get in trouble if they disguise their insults both with and within gibberish.

Pandemic Punch1 votes

Well at least everyone who gets banned is willing to admit they are toxic now. That seems to be the trend.

XeroMMR2 votes

I haven't gotten perma banned YET, I don't want to be either. Also on my defense about that point of people admitting they are toxic after they are banned, well no this isn't true at least not in my case I have said in my description boxes in all of my youtube videos that I am toxic and this is before any of ban chat bans or this 14 day ban right, however I even say in chat that I am toxic and I know this but do you think me calling people stupid is worse thens ome one saying "i hope that your parents are shot and you get cancer" is good? well if you want to see it yourself ill leave this video of it go to 19:22 on the time in this video, and it will show you the quote I just said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L1V3AUSoXA[](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L1V3AUSoXA)

DoctorWolf181 votes

I've admitted that I can get toxic way before I got banned to Riot

XeroMMR1 votes

I made a reply to this comment how ever I forgot to click post, im not going to retype the whole damn thing so ill just sum it up right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L1V3AUSoXA

That is a video I recorded go to 19:22 for the quote in the chat in which says I hope your parents are shot and you get cancer.

Right now keep in mind I have a 14 day ban because I tell people they are dumb yet when I post a video to the forums riot takes the post down and basically tells me this right use the in game report system well yeah I see I could use that or I could do what I just did and make a forum post that way riot could see it that way right? welp nope now how it works huh? you tell me whats worse telling some one that their parents should die then contract a deadly disease or telling people they are dumb? and in mydefense during the time I recorded these videos I had not been banned in anyway and in the description I type I am toxic so no iadmit that I am toxic before the bans, so I msut not be part of these trends huh?

Ahtsuko1 votes

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that's stpoppyid braining bambiwewewe. 100% deserve, jack that's but that's none of my business.

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