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14 Day suspension?!

DaddyStarbucks··5 votes·3,745 views

Ok, so, to start, I've never been suspended or had a chat suspension or anything like that ever before. I'm generally a very level headed reasonable person and in the last game that I played I started well and just had a run of a combination of bad decisions and bad luck and ended up getting destroyed along with the rest of my team, just a shitshow from like 5mins to 25mins. While this isn't my favorite it happens sometimes but our mid was just straight raging at me specifically for no particular reason since everyone was doing bad and being just insanely verbally abusive. Normally I just mute or ignore it but for whatever reason this time I flamed him back and recieved a 14 day suspension immediately afterwards...

I'll post the logs now

Game 1 DaddyStarbucks: gj DaddyStarbucks: brb let him push if you can DaddyStarbucks: lmao gj man DaddyStarbucks: I bet hes tilted DaddyStarbucks: I like my cho gaths big AF :P DaddyStarbucks: yw do me proud homie DaddyStarbucks: omw bot DaddyStarbucks: Let them push if you can DaddyStarbucks: Good timing by Lee there =
DaddyStarbucks: Goddamnit DaddyStarbucks: That %%%got is everywhere DaddyStarbucks: Yea but w/o Lee that's an easy kill DaddyStarbucks: Veigar blind as hell DaddyStarbucks: Fuck off DaddyStarbucks: yep we lost DaddyStarbucks: You arent exacty dominating your lane DaddyStarbucks: Get fucked DaddyStarbucks: I died to him ONE time and you died like 3 times before I got there DaddyStarbucks: Lets just surrender and never see each other again DaddyStarbucks: Congrast thats still 1 less time than me DaddyStarbucks: I mean, you're not doing great DaddyStarbucks: yep you are DaddyStarbucks: Good one, I'm real upset DaddyStarbucks: Just got dicked on this game, it happens sometimes, I havent had a game this bad in a long time and I give 0 fucks if you belie DaddyStarbucks: Nah DaddyStarbucks: we have like 3% chance of winning DaddyStarbucks: lol DaddyStarbucks: Dude, I'm trying just had a bad game but you're being a bm asshole for no reason DaddyStarbucks: Well right now i'm typing DaddyStarbucks: Lets keep doing that though DaddyStarbucks: I'm not DaddyStarbucks: Nope DaddyStarbucks: Ok? DaddyStarbucks: Dude you are such a %%%got whats your fucking problem DaddyStarbucks: Its just a fucking game and you arent EVEN REMOTELY close to being a pro DaddyStarbucks: I mean, we lost so it doesnt realy matter its totally out of hand DaddyStarbucks: Lol glad we all said no DaddyStarbucks: What a great game we continue to play DaddyStarbucks: YEah man I had a bad game I already said that already DaddyStarbucks: Please do everyone a favor and shut the fuck up lol DaddyStarbucks: We're the same elo you stupid fuck DaddyStarbucks: Ye[ DaddyStarbucks: Well you're wood too then DaddyStarbucks: You didn tdo jack shit to carry and you're a peice of shit lol so COLOR ME IMPRESSED DaddyStarbucks: gg

Admittedly not my finest hour, but does ONE game of shitty behavior with someone flaming me like crazy and responding poorly result in a TWO WEEK suspension?! That seems pretty extreme given my past behavior of 0 behavioral problems and overall very supportive behavior and chat. Seems extremely overly sensitive and ridiculous. My gut tells me it's only because I used a sexual slur. To be perfectly honestly I don't think the way I behaved or responded was appropriate, but with no priors a 14 day seems completely ridiculous. Not that it matters but I just happen to be gay and call my friends %%%gots lol we don't take offense and it's just like saying idiot or anything else, it's just a word. I don't get it and I think the suspension is ridiculously out of line with the situation.

20 Comments

ModThe Djinn2 votes

{quoted} DaddyStarbucks: Fuck off DaddyStarbucks: yep we lost DaddyStarbucks: Get fucked DaddyStarbucks: I died to him ONE time and you died like 3 times before I got there DaddyStarbucks: Dude, I'm trying just had a bad game but you're being a bm asshole for no reason DaddyStarbucks: Please do everyone a favor and shut the fuck up lol DaddyStarbucks: We're the same elo you stupid fuck DaddyStarbucks: Well you're wood too then DaddyStarbucks: You didn tdo jack shit to carry and you're a peice of shit lol so COLOR ME IMPRESSED

Admittedly not my finest hour...

Definitely not. What's above would probably have just added a report to your pile (however big said pile is), but there was a further issue: your use of sexual slurs.

Not that it matters but I just happen to be gay and call my friends %%%gots lol we don't take offense and it's just like saying idiot or anything else, it's just a word.

That's a fine opinion to have, but you need to be aware that that's just YOUR opinion. I have several friends of all sexual orientations who find this word incredibly inappropriate and offensive, and one of them could easily have been in your game. Keep that sort of language for situations where you KNOW you are only surrounded by people who are okay with it.

Also, even if you DO consider it less problematic than others do, you still definitely used it offensively when you said

DaddyStarbucks: Dude you are such a %%%got whats your fucking problem

Those comments are what escalated you to a 14-day ban. Riot considers them flatly unacceptable due to how many people take offense to them in ANY context of use. Sure, some don't -- but you have no way of knowing that. If anyone reports you for them, it's entirely on you.

deathgod51 votes

Yup you said %%%got, that word tends to be a perma banner(you only got 14 days tho, thank god these aren't perma ban chat logs if you ask me), considering many players take offense to it and riot got into a lot of shit for all the hate speech that got(and still is getting past) the offensive language check. There is also some general whining but considering their stance on hate speech they ban people that use words like %%%got pretty much directly.

Riot games does this because having your community known as racist/sexist/homophobic tends to hurt the inflow of new players.

Also considering the context in which you used that word the second time it was not aimed at a friend, just because your friends don't have a problem with that doesn't mean every player shares that sentiment. Some people in this player base come from area's where words like that are nothing else then a pretty fucking heavy insult.

DaddyStarbucks2 votes

Honestly this is exactly why Trump got elected and Hillary Clinton is wherever the hell she is not in the white house. People are tired of overly sensitive bullshit. Riot can obviously do whatever they want to since it's their game, but two weeks suspension is insane with no priors.

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

Do you realize that people from all over the world play this game (even in the NA region), and often of a very young age? Be considerate of the other players in the game, you don't know what they are and are not ok with; if you're with a full premade of your friends you guys can talk to each other however you like, but if there are other people there I suggest using a VoIP to talk with them privately and otherwise just keeping offensive slurs out of the game chat.

Joanna JQueen2 votes

Switch to LAN, i get 80 ms there

You dont need to suffer in NA to play league, try LAN you dont get banned for bm because people dont report you and im sure you wont either, i switched and havent been happier in a long time.

hshtagniemehrcdu1 votes

{quoted}

Honestly this is exactly why Trump got elected

Trump got elected because of the screwed up election system, that gives some people more power in the vote then others based upon which state the live in. That's why he got elected, even though the majority actually voted for Clinton.

deathgod51 votes

It really has nothing to do with sensitivity it has to do with game health. I tried to explain exactly why game companies ban toxic player below this statement.

##What is the main goal of league of legends? To provide a fun experience to the players by creating a game environment that players want to play in. If this goal is reached the game is considered healthy. If this goal fails this game is considered unfun and has the risk to lose you players.

##When does the main goal fail The following reasons:

problems that are on riots side alone

  • Balancing is off

problems that are on riot and the playerbase side

  • lack of general understanding of the game

playerbase problems general toxicity, causing the game to be used as a bitching room by players(which is frustrating) Teammates are losing lane losing and losing streaks in general

In order for a game to stay healthy they must prevent these problems from occuring. most of them get handled with patches, tooltips and feederbuster.

Then you are only stuck with toxicity.

##how they handle toxicity

They realized that toxicity does not add any advantage to any player in the game and made the game effectively worse for many players(in the same way that inting does) and that toxic players were ruining the game for others. Anything that makes the game worse for players is bad for the game health and needs to be fixed.

There were many ways to combat this problem,They tried the following:

fix 1.

They used to disable the chat for toxic player for more and more games. In the old system you would have gotten around 25 games of chat restriction for this game here.

why it did not work people that got chat restricted started inting instead when they were frustrated, causing more players to get frustrated.

##fix 2. try to redeem the players: where people used to be perma banned they tried to start a reform program.

why it did not work the players started acting horrible the moment they thought they could get away with it

final fix

punishment tiers to perma ban: simply punish players more and more heavy when they start flaming.

They divided toxicity into severe and not severe.

Not severe is where the player is just frustrated and flames their teammates. They get punished lightly at first because they usually aren't aware of the fact that they are toxic/annoying to their teammates. sentences like"omg this jungle" or "stop feeding" fall under this. When they continue to be annoying to the rest of the

Severe toxicity get's punished heavy because it is not used out of frustration but specifically to use as a way to hurt/annoy your teammates. All hate speech has this goal in the mind of riot. Players like this get one 14 day warning in the best of situations because riot wants to be clear. Be a toxic asshole get punished. You use the chat to annoy and nothing else and the next time you are out.

Toxicity is a problem for people who play this game for fun and competitiveness and this is the playerbase riot want. You used the chat as a means to annoy people and you hot banned.

aZ3R0n1 votes

Hate speech is heavily punished in this community, and most online communities. You can't call people that word around here, and your language and demeanor otherwise was pretty awful too.

Take this as a learning experience, and try not to repeat the same mistake.

EvilDustMan1 votes

Well, you were also massively annoying and toxic.

That didn't help either.

FellOnBardChimes1 votes

Same. Never been slapped on the wrist before, but after being trolled all game by Udyr (anywhere but) top I got suspended. He was the mouthy one to start with and the whole team got on his shit for it. I called him a %%%got and clarified I that I meant %%%, not 'gay %%%'. Was that a step too far? Absolutely not, this kid deserves to have his nuts kicked into his teeth. Obviously I am steamed right now, but I'm usually a calm player so I can't imagine what prior offense ratcheted this sentence.

Anyways, this morning I was like "Let's play the new Rakan cause I love supporting a team" and now I'm all "Some violent extremism at Riot HQ would be the true lol"

FellOnBardChimes1 votes

seriously???? what the fuck is the problem with F A G?!?

I'm gay and it's whatever

nerak231 votes

Seems extremely overly sensitive and ridiculous. My gut tells me it's only because I used a sexual slur. To be perfectly honestly I don't think the way I behaved or responded was appropriate, but with no priors a 14 day seems completely ridiculous. Not that it matters but I just happen to be gay and call my friends %%%gots lol we don't take offense and it's just like saying idiot or anything else, it's just a word. I don't get it and I think the suspension is ridiculously out of line with the situation.

You started off alright then you seemed to lose it. Do you have 2 more logs? If so, post them I'd like to see if you start all games trying to be fair and just get of the rails as the game goes on...Could you?

Let me try to be fair and say this now, I think of the 'pot calling the kettle black'. It seems to me like you are being the "overly sensitive" one once you got punished. Also, I don't believe in calling out slurs, Under Any circumstance. I don't buy the I'm a ... so I can call you a ... BS is what I call it.

Do You feel that you played and posted fairly to basically strangers? If they had posted the same to you would you be upset?

DaddyStarbucks1 votes

I dont have two more logs, I legitimately got a 14 day suspension for a single game of toxic behavior. I play all the time, like typically 5+ games a day and for a single game I said something I shouldn't have and was suspended for 14 days. How is that not an extreme reaction?

TheVikadin1 votes

The fact you pussified dickless cry baby milk drinkers can even ATTEMPT to justify these suspensions and bans because SOMEBODY HURT YOUR WEE LITTLE FEELINGS just goes to prove what worthless virgin shit suckers league players are.

I don't think you should have been suspended. There is a mute function. Riot encourages us to use it. So if you find somebody offensive, mute them. There shouldn't even be a report or ban or suspension, this shouldn't even be a question. You whiney little children just cry your little hearts out everytime somebody speaks in chat.

No wonder this game is so fucking silent, the community is terrified of being banned for saying "GL HF" lest if offend the delicate sensibilities of one of you pussified neckbeard virgin eared rejects.

Scary Door1 votes

No wonder this game is so fucking silent,

I wish this game was silent. People carry on like children nonstop the whole game. If more people focused on playing instead of typing they might actually learn to improve.

one of you pussified neckbeard virgin eared rejects.

The fact you pussified dickless cry baby milk drinkers can even ATTEMPT to justify these suspensions and bans because SOMEBODY HURT YOUR WEE LITTLE FEELINGS

I bet you're super fun to hang with as you seem so very edgy.

NEVER REFORMED1 votes

Firstly you have to axxept that you got banned. Like some of the players have got worst suspensions like me.... And secondly when i read the game chat i was disgusted by how many pussies are out there that are in the Rito-chain and are afraid to express their feelings..

Scary Door1 votes

Honestly, you're kind of negative and I doubt I'd enjoy playing with you.

While I personally don't get offended by any words or insults whatsoever, there are those that do and Riot's automated system doesn't really care what the context or intention of certain words happens to be. You call someone a "fåggot" in game and you will get flagged with hate speech.

If what you're saying is true and you haven't ever been punished before (which I have heard countless times before on these Boards only to have a Rioter prove the individual wrong) then it is a harsh punishment. With that having been said, I'm guessing you won't use that word or act so negatively in your future games because if you do and any one reports you then you're going to get permabanned.

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