I just can't understand why ..
A guy just casually told me to get cancer and after i reported him he still doesn't have any penalties ...
A guy just casually told me to get cancer and after i reported him he still doesn't have any penalties ...
How do you know he didn't get penalties?
I haven't received notification. It usually says that the player you reported got punished or so.
it only notifies you if it was YOUR REPORT that got them PUNISHED
they could been reported by someone else that TRIGGERED THE NOTIFICATION AND THE PUNISHMENT
He's not the only report, and you don't know if he has gotten any penalties because you get a notification if it was your report that caused the punishment.
but if I ( the person who reports someone) report someone i want them to be perma banned instantly... see riot dont do anythign bout toxicity cuz that didnt happen
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The behavior in the community through the years has become worse, Riot's automated system catches the most flagrant offenders but somewhat more mild cases such as the one you described will rarely get punished unfortunately.
Same as real life. If you commit a felony (the most flagrant offenders), you do not pass go. You go directly to jail (banned).
If you commit a misdemeanor (mild cases), you can weasel your way into probation or warning or community service, etc. (rarely get punished).
People on here seems to think misdemeanors should result in jail time every time. There are FREQUENCY and SEVERITY. If it is not severe and it is not frequent, it should not result in jail time.
In all seriousness, if you tell someone to "get cancer", it says a lot about the type of person that you are. There's really no way for you to go but down from that point forward. If you see someone say that in game then you know it's only a matter of time before they escalate to permaban levels of behavior so why not just ban them now?
It's one thing to pop off and tell someone "fuck you", but to wish cancer on someone just speaks to your character as a person. Also, from my experience, people that say those types of things are usually terrible at this game anyway so you're really ridding the community of a terrible person and a terrible player simultaneously when you permaban them for saying "get cancer", it's win-freakin-win.
This is not Minority Report. There is no "pre-ban" because you can predict they will be toxic again. Also, you are generalizing
people that say those types of things are usually terrible at this game anyway so you're really ridding the community of a terrible person and a terrible player simultaneously"
assholes =/= bad at the game. It said a lot about your character when you want to pre-ban someone for something they may or may not do in the future and the generalization of toxic == bad game player.
Judge people for what they already did, not what they may have done in the future.
According to your logic, if someone commit petty theft, he has nowhere to go but down. He will commit petty theft again and again (3 strikes) and it's only a matter of time before he escalates to grand theft level of behavior. First time petty theft = jail!!!
If someone speeding on the highway, he has nowhere to go but down. He will speed again and again and it's only a matter of time before he escalate to vehicular manslaughter level of behavior. First time speeding = jail!!!
WTB some faith in humanity and rehabilitation!!!!
This is not Minority Report. There is no "pre-ban" because you can predict they will be toxic again
Except for the fact that what I'm talking about is someone that already did something that's pretty high up on the scale of rule-breaking in League. A person that says "get cancer" obviously didn't just start saying that today, they typically start with something smaller and the aggression grows and the bad behavior slowly escalated.
Also, you are generalizing
I believe that I already made it very clear that I was speaking generally, thus the usage of the words "usually", "typically", etc. There are always exceptions to any rule, but we don't build societies and communities based upon exceptions, they are built on general ideas/traits and expectations.
assholes =/= bad at the game.
I didn't say they ALL were bad at the game, I said "usually". It's funny how the most toxic people on my team are the ones that are USUALLY doing the worst. I didn't know I'd have to qualify every statement I made with "but not every single, solitary individual fits this general mold so your experience may vary".
General statement: It's typically hot in Phoenix in July. Are there days where it is "less hot"? Rarely, but sure it's happened. Doesn't mean that the rule doesn't generally apply.
. It said a lot about your character when you want to pre-ban someone for something they may or may not do in the future and the generalization of toxic == bad game player.
Really... you want to talk about my character for saying someone that says "get cancer" should be banned? That's an interesting point of view you have there. Rather than shame the bully, you are attacking the person that wants the bully ousted from the community. That tells me one of several things about you. You're either a bully yourself and feel that you should have the right to do as you please without consequence, a troll that knows better but will argue against common sense just to get people riled up on the internet (which is pretty sad), or you're just not very bright and don't understand what you're talking about. I'm not sure which it is, but seeing as you tried to besmirch my character I'd have to go with the latter.
Judge people for what they already did, not what they may have done in the future.
I did. I don't think that person should be in the community, period.
Although what's interesting here is that you say "judge people for what they did", but you're judging me and my character because I want to see a bad apple removed. My judgement of someone's play usually being associated with toxicity is based upon my experience. Not all bad players are toxic but all toxic players are bad---this is the closest statement I can come to expressing where I'm coming from.. except that I don't believe "ALL" toxic players are bad, but simply an overwhelming majority.
According to your logic, if someone commit petty theft, he has nowhere to go but down. He will commit petty theft again and again (3 strikes) and it's only a matter of time before he escalates to grand theft level of behavior. First time petty theft = jail!!!
You are equating real world criminal behavior to actions in an online video game and attempting to juxtapose my statements with that notion. Sorry, but it doesn't work.
Although, hey, let's entertain it anyway. People that commit petty larceny aren't often caught the first time they steal. Usually (I know here we go with generalizations), if someone is caught stealing the very first time they do it then it curbs the behavior in the long-term... this of course assumes it is handled swiftly and properly. So, someone that commits petty larceny has more than likely been stealing for awhile before they got caught. When they get caught, they are fined, ordered to pay restitution in many cases and SOMETIMES put in jail for a short time. If they aren't caught, some of them graduate to larceny or grand larceny.
Do you think that someone that commits grand larceny just woke up one day and decided "Hey, I'm gonna steal $10,000 worth of stuff today", nope. Most of the time they are individuals that have stolen lesser valued/smaller merchandise/cash and have graduated to something larger. You'll learn a lot when you actually study human behavior, I suggest you do it sometime.
If someone speeding on the highway, he has nowhere to go but down. He will speed again and again and it's only a matter of time before he escalate to vehicular manslaughter level of behavior. First time speeding = jail!!!
If you're caught speeding and going more than 25 miles per hour over the limit, you can and sometimes will be arrested on the spot. That isn't to say you always will, but first time offenders can certainly be thrown in jail for exceeding 25mph over the speed limit... they can be charged with reckless endangerment and even attempted manslaughter (or Manslaughter in the second degree). Once again, if you actually knew what you were talking about, this conversation would have gone much smoother for you. Oh well, now you've been educated.
Have a great one :).