getting notified when you get reported.

Splatyo·Sep 2, 2017·24 votes·3,433 views

I think that If riot notified people each time they got a report, it would be much more effective to counter toxic behavior. So in the current system, you get reported maybe 3 games of being toxic, and then you get a punishment and they tell you what you did wrong. it's fine but I think that it's easy for a person to play three games in a row and be toxic without really realizing that they are harassing others and that it could result in a punishment. So if they got a message that they were reported, they would be able to keep themselves in check and not harass people in the next games, preventing them from being punished in the first place.

What are your thoughts? Would this be useful to prevent players from getting punished? Do you even want to help toxic players prevent their punishments? leave a comment below!

Edit: shout out yo YerroFever for his idea, that instead of getting notified when you get reported, you get notified about the game 1 and or game 2 instead of never being notified and suddenly getting punished for GAME 1, GAME 2, GAME 3 if they told you about GAME 1 and GAME 2, it would help you correct your ways before being punished.

25 Comments

Deep Terror NamiSep 2, 201711 votes

You used to get a notification if you were reported too frequently, but it was removed because it felt bad for players whether they actually did something wrong or not because you can get reported a lot for behavior that isn't punishable, or reported for no reason at all. I thought it was a useful method to get people to tone it down before they needed to be punished, but Riot doesn't seem to agree (Riot Tantram stated that was his personal opinion on the matter at least).

SplatyoSep 2, 20171 votes

now that you mention it I do remember they did give a notification, yeah I think it would only be a benefit.

Deep Terror NamiSep 3, 20171 votes

I think it's unfortunate that it was entirely removed, as I personally benefited from it when I started the game by being warned early that the behavior I was used to from other games wasn't tolerated here. I never had to be punished for me to improve how I treated others and react to negativity in the game.

AuraCreedSep 3, 20171 votes

I'd say if you got the same report twice in two different games to get a notifcation, so there wouldn't be 4 man spamming or something.

Though I definitely see where they're coming from with people feeling bad over things that might not even lead to consequences.

scazzmanSep 3, 20171 votes

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You used to get a notification if you were reported too frequently, but it was removed because it felt bad for players whether they actually did something wrong or not because you can get reported a lot for behavior that isn't punishable, or reported for no reason at all. I thought it was a useful method to get people to tone it down before they needed to be punished, but Riot doesn't seem to agree (Riot Tantram stated that was his personal opinion on the matter at least).

it was because they didnt want people using it as a BMing tool

sirwaterflesSep 3, 20171 votes

It were indeed often bullshit moments since the reports were just reports instead of actual accepted report by the system. For example: Played a bit on aram with a friend who is a total noob so the only thing i typed was hi team , some tips in flemish for him and in the first game at some rages to just chill because he was new and still learning. First game toxic premade slandered us in allchat and got the other team to also report us (i gave to few fucks about an aram game to defend myself) , couple of games later we played vs a 5 man premade that just found it fun to all report the guy who had smashed them (was really on fire that game). After that i got a warning for harrasment while i litterally hadnt typed a word more than what i previously mentionned for the last 5 à 6 games. A solution t remedy this would be to only send warnings for genuin reports but then you just get a lot of people who game the system instead of actually reforming.
So yeah great idea on paper, doesnt work live.

GeauxxSep 2, 20173 votes

Or you know, just stop harassing at all... or works just as well, gain some self awareness.

SplatyoSep 3, 20171 votes

how do you know what others find as harassment, when you yourself can take something that they would call harassment easily without reporting? what do you want people to do? read a book? if you could help by notifying them when they get reported then wouldn't that help them gain self awareness? you're harassing by not helping people who harass reform before they get punished.

GeauxxSep 3, 20171 votes

Use some common sense and tell that it doesn't take much to be considered harassment, and why attack someone anyways? why be toxic. if you actually go in games to just be toxic or have so thin skin to respond to anything negative then you prob deserve any punish that would come your way anyways.

CunkySep 3, 20171 votes

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zPOOPzSep 3, 20173 votes

yeah....... is this need discussing?

HibiscûsSep 3, 20174 votes

Racism is disgusting and not tolerated, nor is the usage of homophobic slurs.

FlyingRoboticCowSep 3, 20173 votes

You're lucky its not a perma ban you're got racial slurs and homophobia in there if it was up to I would have removed you from the player pool and see if leveling a new account to lvl 30 has any affect on your shitty attitude

ChuShoeSep 3, 20173 votes

nah, cause then it just discourages people who are simply and plainly getting trolled.

PlatterSep 2, 20171 votes

I don't see why you shouldn't be notified when you get reported; what harm could it do?

TorinuxSep 3, 20172 votes

i'm speaking from my own experience.

I got my first account perma banned (I've been playing League since the very first day of the Open Beta) due to the classic "Be the hero for too long and you'll end up being the villain". I was a very nice guy, but after the introduction of the worst feature ever (Tribunal) a lot of cancerous players dedicated their lives to troll others and get them banned.

Sadly I fell far to many times on their clutches, I became toxic af, gotta admit I stopped playing right after my perma ban. Came back like 1 year later, and started to play again the way I was before, like a chill dude. Well, then the "notifications" were introduced and I became toxic again, I was reported for verbal abuse and stuff like that for trying to teach others how to play, for calling shots, etc.

Every single time I played good, carried etc without being toxic, I remember getting hella pissed whenever I got a notification saying I was reported, or when I was chat restricted, I was like "WTF? Are you for real?" Then I started to get tilted and adopted a troll behavior all that because I got discouraged due to people being able to report you for whatever reason, even for just being good at the game.

Well, I stopped playing again and came back, and trust me I've learned the hard way that, having those features did more harm than anything. So I went back to my old self, of course I get mad if we are losing because of trolls, but I learned that even when people is trolling, if you don't become negative about it, nothing happens. Being negative will always affect you, and only you.

KillaburnSep 3, 20171 votes

i need this cause im struggling to leave level 3(honor) which all my friends are now 4/5.

YerroFeverSep 3, 20171 votes

I think if you got notified each time you got reported, then people could use that as a harassment tool and also ramp up the number of fake reports to actually filter through.

I think it's better to be notified when you've been found guilty of an infraction.

EDIT:

And by this I mean, instead of seeing "GAME 1" "GAME 2" "GAME 3" in your punishment, you are on notice when you hit game 1, and game 2, and game 3 significantly closer to when you actually harassed someone. Then when someone keeps up their behavior, they've gotten prior notice to the punishment and they'll be less surprised when they're punished.

The biggest complaint I've seen on the forums is that people feel blindisided by the punishment system because it takes so long for punishments to be handed out.

SplatyoSep 4, 20171 votes

yeah that's kind of the same thing but yeah, they take the game 1 that they've already reviewed and tell you that you're close to being punished. so you don't even escalate to a game 2 or game 3, and if you do, well you knew before you got punished at least and not after you get punished

I added this to the original message :D

wizardhunterSep 3, 20171 votes

I got punished a few weeks ago for 1 game where I was mildly toxic (didn't insult teammates at all) and felt like I should have just gotten a warning. I had been playing league ALL DAY and was tired. A warning system would have had me been like "Alright I need to chill out". Instead I lost all my honor and went to honor 1 which honestly pisses me off. 1 bad game > rip 100s of good games

SplatyoSep 4, 20172 votes

yeah see that's not nice at all. league is wayyyyy too strict on this game. for example the youtuber dunkey's case, where he flamed and got punished once in his entire and it was a 14 day punishment for flaming a trolling malphite. I feel for you man. :/ hopefully you can get honor 4-5 by end of season

Papa BearDec 4, 20181 votes

He got banned because he was genuinely toxic, he should have been perma banned for what he said, he only got off easy cause he's famous and riot recognizes that hbe probably brought in 10k people to their game, and brought profits through playing it and memeing.

MUSHROOM MIDGETSep 4, 20171 votes

probably would be good as long as the notification is delayed a bit. otherwise the guy is going to turn around and report everyone to make sure they report the guy who got them

SdarsSep 4, 20171 votes

No that's pointless. I'm a nice person who doesn't flame and I get reported every other game. I imagine many others are in the same situation.

The only way that would work would be to have the system itself warn you. You know how the system can automatically punish you? Have it warn you too, if what you did wasn't really enough for a punishment but was enough for the system to notice.