is this honestly worth a perma ban>?

LudeReality·10/18/2016, 1:18:01 PM·2 votes·1,708 views

i was being trolled in these games and am not the best at keeping my mouth shut i dont see how this is possibly something worth banning a 5 year account for with previous restrictions nothing worse than this has ever been said ive never told ppl to kill themselves i dont use racists or homophobic slurs ive never shit talked in ranked nor fed in ranked all of this is from normals where i beleieve we should be more open to talk and play as we plz as it accounts for little but maybe this is only my opinion...

Game 1 LudeReality: honeslty not sure why you didnt start heal LudeReality: u should LudeReality: ok noob LudeReality: leave my lane LudeReality: raka takes my cs and argues with me over how she should start i told her to leave LudeReality: gtfo of my lane LudeReality: serioulosy gtfo my lane LudeReality: this raka says she aint helping why try? LudeReality: no LudeReality: leave my lane LudeReality: it aint like youve caast a single heal LudeReality: you are LudeReality: gtfo my lane LudeReality: raka hasnt cast 1 heal LudeReality: why would i bother LudeReality: where was the q mf LudeReality: raka spams on my cs and takes it LudeReality: refuses to heal LudeReality: why should i try>? plz tell me give me one reason LudeReality: finally leaves LudeReality: honestly if anybody is a troll its this raka LudeReality: and? LudeReality: raka didnt even heal the yas when he tryed to help her LudeReality: nor will she allow me to cs LudeReality: so ... LudeReality: if she in alne im leaveing LudeReality: kill her LudeReality: leave my godamn lane raka LudeReality: not as long as this raka keeps coming simply to fuck my farm up LudeReality: didnt see you healing to keep me from dying LudeReality: lawl LudeReality: plz report this raka LudeReality: you can report me all you like but you did it LudeReality: do you see the raka? LudeReality: blame me all you want LudeReality: she doesnt even help you LudeReality: mhm LudeReality: mhm LudeReality: mhm LudeReality: report me for raka refusing to heal me LudeReality: yup LudeReality: honor yas report raka and hec toxic LudeReality: plz report toxuic hec and raka LudeReality: gj riven LudeReality: yea but she wasted her ult on me when i baited her to bush LudeReality: raka tryed stealing red LudeReality: gj guys LudeReality: lol LudeReality: idiots trying to come for me LudeReality: left mf open LudeReality: report raka toxic plz

Game 2 LudeReality: olaf ur a fucking scrub if him taking ur gromp fucked you oover LudeReality: so bad LudeReality: lol LudeReality: ... LudeReality: why atack minions LudeReality: dont do that LudeReality: no LudeReality: lawl this guy too LudeReality: alrady behind LudeReality: and he fuckesd my cs LudeReality: thanks guys LudeReality: i wasnt LudeReality: honestly you were in there jg while they came back to lane LudeReality: u helping nobody LudeReality: why would you use a jg as a sup LudeReality: u are useless LudeReality: u havent landded ur q once LudeReality: lawl LudeReality: not in lane LudeReality: and you steady leaving LudeReality: you arent bard LudeReality: you are literally serving no purpose righ now LudeReality: as i said im done LudeReality: you can solo bot LudeReality: you have no peel LudeReality: ass for enagage LudeReality: im not coming back LudeReality: donmt give him the kills anyways olaf hes sup LudeReality: i hope she kills you both LudeReality: jsut go somewhere eles ivern LudeReality: i dont want you near me LudeReality: nah to early to say that XD LudeReality: no LudeReality: tryhard LudeReality: aint even coming after you LudeReality: nah im jsut done with this game cus i got ivern sup LudeReality: wasnt worth anyting in lane apart from stealing cs andand exp LudeReality: dont take my tower olad LudeReality: gj garen you got LudeReality: me LudeReality: but you gave up ur base LudeReality: plz report varus toxic LudeReality: when> LudeReality: havent int fed once LudeReality: garen chases me around and melts me

32 Comments

DrCyanide10/18/2016, 1:29:38 PM9 votes

with previous restrictions

What you seem to be missing is that if it's chat restriction worthy, it's permaban worthy when repeated enough.

The 10 game chat restriction, 25 game chat restriction, and two week ban were designed to let you know as early as possible to knock it off and improve, but if you ignored them... well, the two week ban makes it clear it's your final warning.

Zach Sandwhich10/18/2016, 1:21:07 PM8 votes

No tolerance policy, doesn't matter if it's normals or ranked, doesn't matter how long you've been playing, if your being a general dick and trolling like you said in the first sentence, you deserve a perma

Kei14310/18/2016, 2:18:51 PM4 votes

Understand that the behavioral system has changed since Aug-2015 to a tier system and the tiers are as follows:

  1. 10 Game chat restrict
  2. 25 Game chat restrict
  3. 14-Day ban
  4. Permaban

So chat is no longer "is this permaban worthy", but more of "is this chat punishable". If chats are punishment worthy, then it'll build up a case against you and you'll move up the punishment tiers.

You can't even use the excuse that "I didn't know", as it was clearly stated in your 14-day ban reform card / email that your next punishment is a permaban.

Jo0o10/18/2016, 1:23:07 PM4 votes

Assuming you've had restrictions and a two-week ban already, this breaks the camel's back. You should have known better.

Maximum Morde10/18/2016, 2:36:59 PM3 votes

It's irrelevant whether a given offense is worth a perma. It only matters whether an offense is worth a punishment period. If it is, then go to the lookup chart and see what your next punishment is slated to be, oops it's a perma. Bye.

Astôlfo10/18/2016, 1:34:08 PM3 votes

If you got a permaban, that means you deserved it.

Azure Hamster10/18/2016, 2:22:54 PM2 votes

LudeReality: ok noob LudeReality: leave my lane LudeReality: raka takes my cs and argues with me over how she should start i told her to leave LudeReality: gtfo of my lane LudeReality: serioulosy gtfo my lane

That's enough for me.

Caitlyn

S0kaX10/18/2016, 1:21:32 PM2 votes

report asking, that's what I say when I was scrolling, enjoy your ban

50555507_DEL10/18/2016, 4:03:54 PM2 votes

I understand your pain all to well dude. Everyone else in league doesn't care and sees you as the bad person because they didn't experience the game itself. My advice is to mute everyone and just bite the pillow for the buddy f**king that is solo que because that's how most people are in solo que. Or you can just go play some other game that's better than league? And talking trash to someone is just normal for video game players, and i don't know why riot or league players don't understand that.

ModPrandine10/18/2016, 4:14:26 PM1 votes

GAME 1

Here's what I see.

LudeReality: ok noob LudeReality: leave my lane LudeReality: raka takes my cs and argues with me over how she should start i told her to leave LudeReality: gtfo of my lane LudeReality: serioulosy gtfo my lane

Harassing Soraka over her not starting her healing spell.

LudeReality: this raka says she aint helping why try? LudeReality: no LudeReality: leave my lane LudeReality: it aint like youve caast a single heal LudeReality: you are LudeReality: gtfo my lane

Maybe the reason she's not helping you is because you constantly harass her over her spell order choices.

LudeReality: plz report this raka LudeReality: you can report me all you like but you did it

You're not exactly innocent yourself man. Also, report calling, big no-no.

LudeReality: report me for raka refusing to heal me LudeReality: yup

It would be because of your constant harassment directed towards Soraka.

LudeReality: honor yas report raka and hec toxic LudeReality: plz report toxuic hec and raka LudeReality: report raka toxic plz

More report calling.

GAME 1 CONCLUSION

From the start you were harassing Soraka simply for her choice to not start her healing spell. Even if she was trolling, your constant harassment towards her wasn't gonna magically change things. Also, there are more respectful ways to ask someone to stop doing that or leave the lane other than saying "Gtfo out of my lane right now!". In the future just mute and report them and don't call for reports either, since 1) it's considered harassment and therefore reportable and 2) it only takes one report to flag a game for review anyways, so there's no point in trying to get other people to report someone because of it.

My verdict: Punish.

GAME 2

Here's what I see.

LudeReality: olaf ur a fucking scrub if him taking ur gromp fucked you oover LudeReality: so bad LudeReality: lol

Immediately you start insulting and harassing Olaf over him being behind due to his Gromp being taken.

LudeReality: u helping nobody LudeReality: why would you use a jg as a sup LudeReality: u are useless LudeReality: u havent landded ur q once LudeReality: lawl LudeReality: not in lane

More harassment directed towards the Olaf.

LudeReality: as i said im done LudeReality: you can solo bot LudeReality: you have no peel LudeReality: ass for enagage LudeReality: im not coming back LudeReality: donmt give him the kills anyways olaf hes sup LudeReality: i hope she kills you both LudeReality: jsut go somewhere eles ivern LudeReality: i dont want you near me

You're not the team leader, so barking out orders in a disrespectful tone won't get people to listen to you. Also, so what if the support gets a few kills here and there? it's not the end of the world, especially if that was a kill secured in order to prevent the opponent from escaping with very low health. Also, what was the point exactly for the "i hope she kills you both" comment there?

LudeReality: nah im jsut done with this game cus i got ivern sup LudeReality: wasnt worth anyting in lane apart from stealing cs andand exp

Ivern can be played as a Support as well as his abilities (aside from his passive of course) are suited for the support role as well.

LudeReality: dont take my tower olad

Why not?

LudeReality: plz report varus toxic

Report calling.

GAME 2 CONCLUSION

Right off the bat you start harassing your teammate simply because they fell behind early. Not only that but you continuously do that if they make any sort of mistake. In addition to this you seem to have a very stubborn view of what can be played as support and what can't. Ivern's kit can be played in both the support and jungle role (he is a supportive jungler after all) so you need to quit being so stubborn about that kind of thing. I've already gone over why report calling is bad so I won't repeat myself here.

My verdict: Punish.

OVERALL CONCLUSION

Whenever someone messes up and/or does something that you don't like or approve of (such as starting a different ability than the one that you wanted them to start) you continuously harass them over it for the entire game and in a rude and disrespectful tone tell them to leave your lane. Not only that but you seem to not know or realize that there are some champions that are completely viable as a support (Ivern being one example of such a champion) and as such whenever one does appear you harass that player over it. In addition to all of that you call for reports.

My advice: Grow up. We all make mistakes, and not everyone shares the same mindset as you in terms of optimal skill start choices either, so continuously harassing someone over them for the entire game is just you being a jerk. So what if someone else is trolling? Who cares? That doesn't automatically mean that you get a free pass to start behaving like a jerk.

In the future just mute and report those who act up, and if someone makes a mistake, build them up instead of putting them down. We all make mistakes every now and then, even you, so the next time that you're about to type out an insult, think about how you would feel if that were directed at you before pressing Enter.

My overall/final verdict on this case: Punish.

nerak2310/18/2016, 5:46:27 PM1 votes

i tested this theory out myself as well with a couple of my buddies this system is overly sensitive for a competitive pvp based game regardless of what you want to say

Did you try it with this account?

Let me Try to say this nice! If your experiment includes chat logs like above then your theory of simply saying Fuck is offset by the many other offences that are apt to be reported.

To answer your original question,,,Yes !!

People, fellow posters and followers of this game, I feel the question should and remain, "Would I like to play in this game and would I report it"

Fuck is not the buzz word that gets people punished. I'd give example but your all smart enough to understand the difference.

nerak2310/18/2016, 5:52:32 PM1 votes

I think a lot of people (who get punished) really need to realize this. Especially those that like to pick and choose their chatlogs not showing us everything would help them to understand how the banning process works.

Honestly, does this sound like a chat log that started at the beginning? No it does Not. And, if it is the way a player starts the game then why should other have to deal with it.

A huge part of me says If you are going to complain on this board and put up chat logs the least we can ask for are correct and from the start of the game. I understand part of why Riot doesn't do it at this time, Yet another time I will bring this up.

EazyMakaveli210/18/2016, 8:00:36 PM1 votes

i support u OP. this community is so oversensitive and Riot is making it worse by promoting being a wuss.

nerak2310/18/2016, 10:39:53 PM1 votes

i support u OP. this community is so oversensitive and Riot is making it worse by promoting being a wuss.

Realize most bully are over sensitive beings and they must pick at anyone they think will not talk or act back. Sad, really it is! I feel bad for all of the posters on this board who support and even try to promote bulling !!!

What a sad life they must have, so those who can play and deal with being called names, say humm ..maybe being called a "WUSS" just remember this one thing, Most of the time the one calling names are calling others what they themselves don't like to be named.

Mute and report ! Please and Thank you !