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You can get punished for talking sense to your team, stopping two guys from inting, and winning game

Gibo51lt··7 votes·6,175 views

So, I had Vayne-Soraka bot, we were winning and enemy Cho'Gath was afk, but these two started fighting each other for something stupid like Soraka taking two lasthits by accident. Vayne started inting and went something like 0/5 while flaming Soraka, Soraka got mad and started running it down mid too while flaming Vayne back. I talked sense into both of them, they both said "Ok but just for you mate", they muted each other and only talked to me, they played the game well and we won the game in the end, I got 3 honors from my team.

I know I did some things wrong, like using caps lock and asking "are you 12 year old?", but cmon...

Here's the chatlog with very minor changes to make it more clear who's talking to who (I changed words like "you" to "soraka" and "dude" to "vayne", nothing that affects the actual conversation):

Gibo51lt: omg fail stun sry Gibo51lt: cho afk Gibo51lt: akali can snowball mid after lvl 6 Gibo51lt: kill hjim Gibo51lt: akali you should gank mid Gibo51lt: AKALI CAN YOU HELP YOUR TEAM? Gibo51lt: vayne omg Gibo51lt: 4v5 Gibo51lt: don't go afk Gibo51lt: they hvae cho afk Gibo51lt: vayne Gibo51lt: you wanna get banned because of soraka? Gibo51lt: well riot don't know that Gibo51lt: all their algorithm see is you go afk Gibo51lt: vayne so what Gibo51lt: this is free elo Gibo51lt: akali carry easily Gibo51lt: you play to lose ? Gibo51lt: or to win? Gibo51lt: soraka stop flaming her back please Gibo51lt: jsut mute her Gibo51lt: and let her play Gibo51lt: stop it omg Gibo51lt: vayne and soraka mute each other Gibo51lt: and play Gibo51lt: for win Gibo51lt: pls Gibo51lt: vayne stop she's not worth it Gibo51lt: soraka you're reported too if you troll Gibo51lt: soraka you're no better than vayne if you do that Gibo51lt: no just push Gibo51lt: let her last hit Gibo51lt: she will carry late Gibo51lt: soraka chill Gibo51lt: soraka chill he's not gonna report anyone lol Gibo51lt: "fck you all" what did I do soraka ?? Gibo51lt: don't let vayne ruin game for the rest of us Gibo51lt: omg Gibo51lt: well let her say anything she want Gibo51lt: mute her Gibo51lt: JUST MUTE EACH OTHER NOBODY ELSE CARES ABOUT YOUR FIGHT Gibo51lt: YOU ARE TWO RANDOM PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET, WHY DO YOU CARE OF EACH OTHER? Gibo51lt: soraka you come league to play or to talk ? Gibo51lt: if you come to play and have fun, then ignore vayne Gibo51lt: I am not on anyone's side Gibo51lt: i don't care who said what Gibo51lt: I just want you both to be quiet and focus on game Gibo51lt: I don't care who started Gibo51lt: "but she started" are you 12 year old? Gibo51lt: I come here to play after a stressful work day Gibo51lt: and all I see is people fighting each other Gibo51lt: when there's an enemy to fight Gibo51lt: yeah and vayne also hopes you lose all games, so what? Gibo51lt: you're two strangers online Gibo51lt: I just hope we can play the game and have fun together and kick the enemy's ass... Gibo51lt: n1 stun vayne Gibo51lt: nicee Gibo51lt: 1-3-1 Gibo51lt: nah not yet Gibo51lt: we need one pick Gibo51lt: then we can baron without risk Gibo51lt: vayne we can probably, but get one pick so it's safer Gibo51lt: 1-3-1 ? Gibo51lt: 2-3-0 better Gibo51lt: gg guys

There was also another game in my ticket where I did flame, but the thing is, that other game happened like a week prior to this game. What this means is that the first game alone wasn't enough to get me banned, Riot still allowed me to continue and show that I can improve. Which I did, and didn't flame ever again. Until, apparently, this chat log that I posted above. Which almost unarguably isn't flaming since I helped my team get their shit together and am the only reason we won the game.

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RiotRiot Tantram43 votes

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[1:37] Gibo51lt (Poppy): jon snow dies [2:17] Gibo51lt (Poppy): dude i've seen the leaked one already ;) [4:54] Gibo51lt (Poppy): omg fail stun sry [5:39] Gibo51lt (Poppy): cho afk [5:52] Gibo51lt (Poppy): akali can snowball mid after lvl 6 [9:00] Gibo51lt (Poppy): kill hjim [10:44] Gibo51lt (Poppy): akal iyou should gank mid [11:25] Gibo51lt (Poppy): AKALI CAN YOU HELP YOUR TEAM [11:40] Gibo51lt (Poppy): vayne omg [11:40] Gibo51lt (Poppy): 4v5 [11:41] Gibo51lt (Poppy): don't go afk [11:42] Gibo51lt (Poppy): they ahve cho afk [11:44] Gibo51lt (Poppy): dude [11:46] Gibo51lt (Poppy): you wanna get banned ? [11:48] Gibo51lt (Poppy): because of soraka? [11:55] Gibo51lt (Poppy): well riot don't know that [11:59] Gibo51lt (Poppy): all their algorith see is you go afk [12:04] Gibo51lt (Poppy): ¨no they dont -.- [12:15] Gibo51lt (Poppy): vayne so what [12:16] Gibo51lt (Poppy): this is free elo [12:19] Gibo51lt (Poppy): akali carry easily [12:24] Gibo51lt (Poppy): you play to lose ? [12:27] Gibo51lt (Poppy): or to win? [14:06] Gibo51lt (Poppy): soraka stop flaming her bakc [14:08] Gibo51lt (Poppy): jsut mute her [14:10] Gibo51lt (Poppy): and let her play [14:20] Gibo51lt (Poppy): stop it omg [14:22] Gibo51lt (Poppy): vayne and soraka mute each other [14:23] Gibo51lt (Poppy): and play [14:25] Gibo51lt (Poppy): for win [14:25] Gibo51lt (Poppy): pls [14:51] Gibo51lt (Poppy): vayne stop she's not worth it [15:00] Gibo51lt (Poppy): soraka you're reported too if you troll [15:07] Gibo51lt (Poppy): soraka you're no better than vayne if you do that [15:44] Gibo51lt (Poppy): noio jsut push [16:29] Gibo51lt (Poppy): let her last hit [16:31] Gibo51lt (Poppy): she will carry late [18:37] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): soraka chill [18:47] Gibo51lt (Poppy): soraka chill he's not gonna report anyone lol [19:14] Gibo51lt (Poppy): "fck you all" what did I do soraka ?? [19:23] Gibo51lt (Poppy): don't let vayne ruin game for the rest of us [19:24] Gibo51lt (Poppy): omg [19:38] Gibo51lt (Poppy): well let her say anythign she want [19:40] Gibo51lt (Poppy): mute her [19:49] Gibo51lt (Poppy): JUST MUTE EACH OTEHR NOBODY ELSE CARES ABOUT YOUR FIGHT [20:00] Gibo51lt (Poppy): YOU ARE TWO RANDOM PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET, WHY DO YOU CARE OF EACH OTHER? [20:13] Gibo51lt (Poppy): soraka you come league to play or to talk ? [20:22] Gibo51lt (Poppy): if you come to play and have fun, then ignore vayne [21:01] Gibo51lt (Poppy): I am not on anyone's side [21:04] Gibo51lt (Poppy): i don't care who said what [21:08] Gibo51lt (Poppy): I just want you both to be quiet and focus on game [21:12] Gibo51lt (Poppy): I don't care who started [21:14] Gibo51lt (Poppy): you 12 year old? [21:17] Gibo51lt (Poppy): "but she started" [21:22] Gibo51lt (Poppy): I come here to play after a stressful work day [21:26] Gibo51lt (Poppy): and all I see is people fighting each other [21:29] Gibo51lt (Poppy): when there's an enemy to fight [22:01] Gibo51lt (Poppy): and vayne also hopes you lose all games [22:06] Gibo51lt (Poppy): now so waht, you're two strangers online [22:28] Gibo51lt (Poppy): I just hope we can play the game and have fun together and kick the enemy's ass... [22:39] Gibo51lt (Poppy): n1 stun vayen [22:56] Gibo51lt (Poppy): nicee [23:12] Gibo51lt (Poppy): 1-3-1 [24:59] Gibo51lt (Poppy): nah not yet [25:04] Gibo51lt (Poppy): we need one pick [25:08] Gibo51lt (Poppy): then we can baron without risk [25:19] Gibo51lt (Poppy): vayne we can probably, but get one pick so it's safer [26:52] Gibo51lt (Poppy): 1-3-1 ? [26:56] Gibo51lt (Poppy): 2-3-0 better [29:16] Gibo51lt (Poppy): gg guys

[1:48] Gibo51lt (Poppy): ty [3:42] Gibo51lt (Poppy): rly ori? [3:43] Gibo51lt (Poppy): rly? [3:45] Gibo51lt (Poppy): rly ? [3:57] Gibo51lt (Poppy): well it's your loss, she's the one getting double buff [4:00] Gibo51lt (Poppy): no you don't have to get there FASTER [4:03] Gibo51lt (Poppy): you have to GET THERE [4:10] Gibo51lt (Poppy): I killed kha [4:18] Gibo51lt (Poppy): and survived ~15 seconds against syndra [4:22] Gibo51lt (Poppy): yet you just don't show up. [4:36] Gibo51lt (Poppy): but your loss against double bufgff [5:01] Gibo51lt (Poppy): ok gg [5:02] Gibo51lt (Poppy): ff15 [5:08] Gibo51lt (Poppy): bronze mid [5:36] Gibo51lt (Poppy): yeah 9x the best player for you two sucking :) [5:46] Gibo51lt (Poppy): "oh bruh but I love being in bronze" [6:11] Gibo51lt (Poppy): subhuman xDD nice [6:18] Gibo51lt (Poppy): you totally hurt my feelings bruh [6:40] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): come my red [6:42] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): ori won't movce [6:53] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): free red [7:42] Gibo51lt (Poppy): again they kill me in my jungle :) [7:58] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): can someone link me a tutorial [8:01] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): "How to win 1v5 game" ? [9:43] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): it's not inting if I'm dead already [10:02] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): no flash, everything on cd [10:05] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): no way I can escape [10:23] Gibo51lt (Poppy): you mean yourself and riven? yeah [10:46] Gibo51lt (Poppy): next game if your laner leaves to kill your jungler and your jungler still kills their jungler, maybe follow your laner [12:34] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): report ori ty [12:40] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): she's afk in base [13:22] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): she back yay [14:28] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): nope, afk again [14:52] Gibo51lt (Poppy): yeah report me for orianna being afk and letting me die intentionally, multiple times in a row [15:10] Gibo51lt (Poppy): what do you report me for ? [15:32] Gibo51lt (Poppy): I invade succesfully, kill enemy jungler, then fight their mid for 15 seconds [15:34] Gibo51lt (Poppy): meanwhile ori afk [15:48] Gibo51lt (Poppy): i didn't need you riven, I needed ori [15:50] Gibo51lt (Poppy): but she was afk [16:04] Gibo51lt (Poppy): stop deffing your premade for her mistakes [16:06] Gibo51lt (Poppy): she won't learn else [17:20] Gibo51lt (Poppy): see? [17:24] Gibo51lt (Poppy): ori afk [17:36] Gibo51lt (Poppy): you believe me now trist? [21:37] Gibo51lt (Poppy): yeah [21:40] Gibo51lt (Poppy): that's how i died first 3 times [21:54] Gibo51lt (Poppy): umh [21:58] Gibo51lt (Poppy): my 2nd and 3rd were [22:09] Gibo51lt (Poppy): kha killed me TWICE in my jungle WITH syndra [22:13] Gibo51lt (Poppy): first at red, then again at blue [22:18] Gibo51lt (Poppy): ori don't even move [22:42] Gibo51lt (Poppy): riven you don't even see situation and you still talk shit? [22:47] Gibo51lt (Poppy): maybe watch replay and stop talking [23:09] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): according to my team (riven and ori premades), you never invaded me on my blue buff [23:17] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): damn, apparently I just suck so hard that I'm seeign things

zPOOPz18 votes

summoner 11 summoner 11 summoner 11

WiccanBKaplan10 votes

Jhin "Almost Perfection"

Lauchmelder5 votes

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Kei1438 votes

I assume that would be the game2 he is talking about, which he doesn't deny of being toxic.

However, he did clearly show in game1 that he was trying to keep the team together. So the debate I have (and don't know if it is worth debating) for him is whether game1 (assuming that is the game that got him punished) should punish him.

Granted he's probably on knife's edge of nearly getting punished anyways, but I feel that his game1 shouldn't have been the one that breaks the camel back, unless game1 wasn't one that broke the camel's back, in which I shall withdraw my opinion.

Electro5225 votes

Mind if I ask what he got punished with.......if you're able to?

Because, I have to admit, none of this seems ban worthy. Maybe a few games chat restricted at most. But then, if that is the case, then alot of other people need to be chat restricted, because even I'm at fault for this kind of language, and I've never gotten a single chat restriction.

The Cream Reaper1 votes

the master of savagery strikes again!

Rengooo7 votes

Interesting, I just read all that and I'm finding it hard to spot anything super toxic, sure he seems quite wound up and a little aggressive, but I'm surprised this got pulled up as ban/suspension worthy or what ever the punishment was.

What part stood out in particular to you may I ask?

TwinkiePro2 votes

{quoted}

Interesting, I just read all that and I'm finding it hard to spot anything super toxic, sure he seems quite wound up and a little aggressive, but I'm surprised this got pulled up as ban/suspension worthy or what ever the punishment was.

What part stood out in particular to you may I ask?

If none of it was toxic, why did the OP think he needed to edit some of it out?

Eternal Torment3 votes

The first game's log was actually ok. yes he used some swear words, but none were directed at anyone, he was very metaphoric in that one with stuff like "kick the enemy's ass"

The second logs however are indicating that he supported inting and was doing the very Thing he tried to stop in his first game, which was fighting with others.

The first game wasn't punishment deserving, the second one however was, and made up for what the first one was ok for.

AdeBug7 votes

welp I'm confused, the OP didn't edit any toxicity out of the original log, idk why ppl sayin they lied; and if the first game, the one from a week ago, was indeed suspension worthy, then it should've been done there and then, because I don't see anything noteworthy in this 2nd game's original chat log.

and even in the first game, breaking it apart, those 3 all chat lines that look like feeding cannot be proven to be as such just from chat, you'd have to see the game, maybe they were baiting with 5 ppl in a bush :) (no suspension meant either no game check or no actual feeding). Everything else was just a whole lotta talk n spam. OP does need to shut it and play, but:

tellin someone they suck is like the most kiddish and innocent way of tellin someone off... srsly now, guys!

to the OP: less QQ more Pew Pew, it will save you a lot of trouble. The chances of changing 1 player's mind, let alone 2, are minimal at best. No point risking it every god dam game. But if you insist on doing it, try your hardest and keep it super clean, especially since you have a record, so to speak :P

RiotRiot Tantram13 votes

Except the cut out portion telling the enemy team to come get the buff for one?

AdeBug4 votes

that's in the first game.... that they didn't post huh?

DontTouchMyBall6 votes

Omg, the summoner 11 is real!

Why do you people do this? (blatantly lie)

Alpha Samsuni5 votes

summoner 11

Modi5 votes

From Tantram's correction in your logs

[6:40] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): come my red [6:42] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): ori won't movce [6:53] [All] Gibo51lt (Poppy): free red

That alone is worth a 14-day, minimum.

AdeBug2 votes

it's not a correction, it's an addition, as the OP mentions it but didn't post it (for w/e reason) and still admitted they were being toxic. and if no ban, apparently not ban-worthy toxic, just on-their-radar toxic :P

Wesker9974 votes

I don't see how this is toxic at all . Obviously having two teammates arguing and some afking is going to tilt you and you're only human . This system is garbo needs a complete rework . Sorry about your ban though, they really don't put any work into it and instead they let the robot ban lmao..

nerak233 votes

Posters stop being an ass, and start helping !

Kei1432 votes

hmmmmmmmmmmm....

If this is all true and unedited, I can see your effort in trying to keep the team together.

Submit a ticket to https://support.riotgames.com and ask for a manual review of the punishment (and don't ask for anything else), maybe they can do something about it. No idea how long it may take, as they'll probably have to send the ticket back to NA head quarters to review and no guarantees as well.

Even if they do over turn it, it will still mean that your account is very very close to punishment. Keep in mind that you aren't punished for those two games alone, the reform card shows you 1-5 recent games of unacceptable behavior as examples. There are probably a few more toxic games that you aren't shown.

Modi3 votes

Thanks to Tantram, proven to be edited logs

RiseofMe2 votes

honestly i would submit a ticket no matter what, to see if they will unban you. Ive been banned and the day that ive been banned was also the day i was unbanned. After an hour or so of submitting my ticket to riot saying that i shouldnt have been banned, they replied back and gave me 14-day suspension. Now of course we both have different scenarios, i only said 2 things that were a TINY bit toxic which led this to my ban. Besides that, they even said after my 14-day suspension, I have been improving in not being toxic, so it is worth a try no matter how bad it looks.

scribbles7821 votes

Okay, so I was a bit skeptical until you mentioned that there was another game that you didn't even show. That only leads me to believe it was really bad. But I think in terms of punishable things this game, calling out peoples' scores is probably bannable in itself. When I'm feeding (they weren't even doing that bad, 1/3/1 isn't terrible) and people call out my scores I get INSANELY tilted.

Also Riot doesn't know you're the only reason you won. As far as they're concerned, you flamed in 2 games and therefore deserve to be punished for them.

You can turn around peoples' attitudes in games without being annoying about it, which you almost did, but better luck next time I guess.

Kei1434 votes

1-3-1 and 2-3-0 were probably gameplay strats of split pushing and map-wide pressure.

Hellmaximus15 votes

{quoted}

Okay, so I was a bit skeptical until you mentioned that there was another game that you didn't even show. That only leads me to believe it was really bad. But I think in terms of punishable things this game, calling out peoples' scores is probably bannable in itself. When I'm feeding (they weren't even doing that bad, 1/3/1 isn't terrible) and people call out my scores I get INSANELY tilted.

Also Riot doesn't know you're the only reason you won. As far as they're concerned, you flamed in 2 games and therefore deserve to be punished for them.

You can turn around peoples' attitudes in games without being annoying about it, which you almost did, but better luck next time I guess.

saying " you wanna get banned.." and "soraka you're reported too if you troll" Is what got this game marked with toxic.

Try to avoid saying "yourself" "afk" "feeding" "fed" "reported" "Banned" "flaming" "inting" "intentionally" "Trolling", Those all seem to mark the game as toxic regardless of the context and it's because of this system that they're now groups of people baiting players into a ban, and also partly Riot Tantrum fault for revealing too much of the system to the players.

I personally think you did a great job regardless, you managed to pull your team together and made them cooperate as a team, this game alone should absolve you of whatever you said last game.

Falkentyne4 votes

{quoted}

saying " you wanna get banned.." and "soraka you're reported too if you troll" Is what got this game marked with toxic.

Try to avoid saying "yourself" "afk" "feeding" "fed" "reported" "Banned" "flaming" "inting" "intentionally" "Trolling", Those all seem to mark the game as toxic regardless of the context and it's because of this system that they're now groups of people baiting players into a ban, and also partly Riot Tantrum fault for revealing too much of the system to the players.

I personally think you did a great job regardless, you managed to pull your team together and made them cooperate as a team, this game alone should absolve you of whatever you said last game.

And companies in 2017 still haven't learned that you don't make a computer do a human's job.

AdeBug3 votes

what you mean is there are limits and the algorithm can be improved :D machines and computers have been doing humans' jobs for decades.

Negativity2 votes

{quoted}

And companies in 2017 still haven't learned that you don't make a computer do a human's job.

Did you get replaced at the factory or something?

zPOOPz1 votes

lolwut

Axolotl Dreams1 votes

Yea, just make a team to go through the hundreds of thousands of reports that they get on a daily basis. That'll work fiiiiiiiiiiiiine.

notice me Sin pi1 votes

20 days late but i thought 1/3/1 = "lets push 1 top 3 mid 1 bot"

scribbles7821 votes

[{quoted}](name=notice me Sin pi,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jnsaYuqg,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2018-01-26T03:40:03.931+0000)

20 days late but i thought 1/3/1 = "lets push 1 top 3 mid 1 bot"

It very well could mean that, but in the context of these logs it's pretty likely that he was flaming another player' score. If he did mean 1-3-1 pushing strat he should have specified.

pagan sex1 votes

riot hates it when you communicate to your fellow summoners. this is why no white people play league anymore.

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