League Community Toxic?

Hug Me Im Sleepy··1 votes·437 views

Look guys ill admit im not the best player and I'm not the most quiet player either but Why is it when i defend myself against someone who is Just being toxic or bad sportsmanship I'm the one that gets the blame. This game has really gone down hill and i don't think that Riot is taking care of the problem. You ban people yes but what happens when they get banned? New account and start over and then they will bounce between then. Why cant you put up a bigger punishment then just banning for a week or Chat restrictions. I honestly could do a better job of finding the solution to this game losing its glory because of the toxicity. This problem is what is taking the fame and the fun from this game that it had in s2 Not too many people not to little but you guys dont seem to really care. I mean take this down and illl just post one again saying the same thing. Rito You need to get your shit straight. I understand you have patch work to do but you have a tribunal for a reason. Use them show them that they arent doing their job correctly.AurelionSol

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RedTao2 votes

I've already brought this up in other threads. People genuinly don't seem to get that there's really no punishement when it comes to the behavior in the game. Riot can't even seem to figure out what behavior they want to see anyways so it's hard to figure out what they want to see. I get where you're coming from but Tribunal isn't coming back in the way you want it. The way Riot has it set up is Tribunal is still 'active' but it's being run by the Behavioral Specialists at Riot. They look at the reports players submit and they're the ones who decide who gets punished. Even then the punishments are decided by the 'community standards' that are established only by the people sending in the reports. So if enough people report you for, for example, apolgiizing for dying. If enough people are reporting you, then it's clear that you apoligizing for dying is against the 'community standards'. Because of this it's grounds for punishment. So those people that you run into having bad sportsmanship and saying to report people for whatever reason, they're the ones setting the community standards. But again, I've already brought this up before but it seems to attract nothing but people who go out of their way to get offended despite the evidence being there. Sorry if you took offense to this post. This is just the way I see things here.

Hug Me Im Sleepy1 votes

im not offended i want more insight i still think however they arent looking at them well enough They should go back and really see who started talking trash first

RedTao1 votes

While I can agree with how you look at it, Riot does not take that stance. They like to do the I dont care who started it, im finishing it approach. They also like to tell players it's not their job to defend themselves (Which is BS considering I was banned for not defending myself and agreeing with players insults)

What makes this sad is that Riot does not like to do much for the people provacating reactions from other people and end up targetting the people who say something back. If someone has a history of trying to get negative reactions out of people and are NOT directing comments towards themselves, then they need to at least get a notice making them aware that their actions are not helpful.

The issue isn't that Riots doing their job incorrectly, they just have a messed up behavior system. If you're being called a feeder/you suck/uninstall and you respond to this, Riot sees you being as bad as they are. Even if you didn't flip out at them as long as you respond to them, you're instantly in the same boat as they are. If they decide to report you for responding to their comments, this immediately makes you the bigger target because Riot puts so much emphasis in "It's not your job to defend yourself" that to even say 'no i'm not' makes you breaking what was just said.

That's just a bit from the riot side, the other half of that coin is the current tribunal. The way it was explained to me was that the only people who have any say as to what is considered 'acceptable behavior' are the people putting in the reports. So those people that we hear about in the boards but get downvoted because it doesn't matter how other people behave as long as you're 'just as guilty', those are the people setting the standards. They are the ones saying what is acceptable and what isn't. The players that play this game without trying to be 'toxic' and just play for fun (I used to be this player) dont get any say in the matter because we don't report anywhere near the same amount as the people who take offense over everything do. So my view as what should be acceptable because I dont report people will differ from the people who report people after almost every game.

Some of what I've said is mostly my view on the matter but the reasoning behind my views on this is enforced by what Riots Behavioral specialists have told me when not dealing with my 3 months issue.

Kei1431 votes

why can't you defend yourself without being toxic yourself??

actually, why do you even need to defend yourself anyways?

Hug Me Im Sleepy1 votes

Because i have anger issues and i wear my feelings on my sleves and i have to defend myself because Im having a off game and noone seems to care they just let loose all the anger

RedTao1 votes

I don't know if you would want my help but I used to be the same way myself. If you want, there's a guy I would like for you to listen to on youtube.

He talks about some lessons given hundreds of years ago regarding peoples 'original nature' by a guy named Bhodhidharma. I'll put the link down below just in case you'd like to listen to him. (You dont have to be a particular faith to listen, his talks apply to just about everyone.) If you have some sort of comm like skype or curse I would be more than happy to listen and talk with you. It took me a few goes to fully understand the guys lesson but the talks no joke give you the answer to understanding, both about yourself and the lesson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmru_nIRf9Q&list=PL1x_N_tzeL8JX2e6hvNS3bv5n6w75E9CC&nohtml5=False

Troll Armada1 votes

I doubt that happens unless you are "defending yourself" with profanity and/or racial slurs.


For example, here is txt from the report of the match I just had: (this is toxic)

15:01 (poppy) "why feed talon"

16:44 (poppy) "losers"

17:08 (poppy) "zed reoport [sic]"

18:34 (poppy) "ff please"

19:54 (poppy) "ff"

22:17 (poppy) "ff"


8:48 (fiora) "gg"

11:08 (fiora) "ffs"

11:25 (fiora) "stf up zed"

16:18 (fiora) "surrender we lost"

23:42 (fiora) "bye guys"


Of course, these aren't real players probably, as towards the end, the talon became confused as to which window was running which bot and seemed to reply to a message I made to the team privately...

I agree with you about tribunal tho, more than 1 troll acquaintance has laughed to me privately about how they wouldn't be able to get away with half the stuff they get away with now, when the tribunal was around.

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