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Banned for just a Game

ZlanderZEE··1 votes·491 views

Hi there, First of all, i know my attitude was a bit bad on this game but to me it still seems not fair. Take your time to read it:

Game 1 ZlanderZEE: are you going to shut up or do i have to much you both and report? ZlanderZEE: gl hf ZlanderZEE: dude ZlanderZEE: for god sake ZlanderZEE: are you my support or are you my killer ZlanderZEE: idc ZlanderZEE: i was dead allready ZlanderZEE: he ignited me ZlanderZEE: better use it when i can escape ZlanderZEE: flash thresh ZlanderZEE: wp ez ZlanderZEE: come ez lets try to take his stacks out ZlanderZEE: hes a bit bad sorry xD ZlanderZEE: wp ZlanderZEE: blitz if u can buy a pink ZlanderZEE: ty ZlanderZEE: ez ZlanderZEE: drake? ZlanderZEE: k ZlanderZEE: drake ZlanderZEE: facepalm. ZlanderZEE: xD ZlanderZEE: this blitz man i swear XD ZlanderZEE: k ZlanderZEE: you have ZlanderZEE: fcking 6 kills ZlanderZEE: are you kidding me? ZlanderZEE: ok zed ZlanderZEE: u know what ZlanderZEE: this guy will lose ZlanderZEE: im out of tfs ZlanderZEE: dickheads deserve to lose ZlanderZEE: no ZlanderZEE: i hate %%%%s ZlanderZEE: he has 6 skills he goes to my lane to a wave ZlanderZEE: kills* ZlanderZEE: guys like this are boosted ZlanderZEE: i will only join tfs at 220cs ZlanderZEE: u have 8 kills ZlanderZEE: when i have 220 ZlanderZEE: ty ZlanderZEE: kid? ZlanderZEE: no. ZlanderZEE: u got it wrong buddy. ZlanderZEE: i dont care about this game at all ZlanderZEE: you do ZlanderZEE: no ZlanderZEE: i have a job. ZlanderZEE: i have a life ZlanderZEE: if i see %%%%s ZlanderZEE: i will fck them. ZlanderZEE: because losing to them ZlanderZEE: pisses them off ZlanderZEE: which to me ZlanderZEE: is great ZlanderZEE: thats great ZlanderZEE: :D ZlanderZEE: i wont ZlanderZEE: muted. ZlanderZEE: so you rather me join tfs ZlanderZEE: being useless ZlanderZEE: i would rather have dmg ZlanderZEE: even tho u have a valid point singed so im sorry for that ZlanderZEE: see ZlanderZEE: thats my dmg right now ZlanderZEE: so bad that i win almost every game ;) ZlanderZEE: or maybe because ZlanderZEE: i dont play a lot :) ZlanderZEE: exacty ZlanderZEE: not everyone is like you Ez ;) ZlanderZEE: Singed ZlanderZEE: when u have %%%%s all over the world ZlanderZEE: or when u work ZlanderZEE: and see them ZlanderZEE: tell me how much patience u have to them ZlanderZEE: u may say its just a game ZlanderZEE: but the attitude is there ZlanderZEE: and i hate the attitude ZlanderZEE: my attitude to dicks is dicks ZlanderZEE: yeah i agree ZlanderZEE: its not about the cs ZlanderZEE: its about being a piece of garbage ZlanderZEE: could be ZlanderZEE: not that i care ZlanderZEE: i know what your point is ZlanderZEE: but there will come a day ZlanderZEE: when ur fed up with this kind of attitudes ZlanderZEE: k now i have dmg ZlanderZEE: i push bot ZlanderZEE: u can report me.

I've been a toxic person in the past and by toxic i mean everytime a guy would have an attitude on the game or not give a damn about a ranked game and just do whatever he pleases instead of trying and win the game, i would make the chat a war zone so he would wake up to what attitude he is having towards others playing and trying to having fun and being competitive at the same time. Its sad that i cant post full chat log here, you would probably know why i talked like that. I hate guys with an attitude. Guys that think they are above everyone and everything, it throws me off. I respect every single player that is respectfull and even if he/she sucks, does the best he/she can to win the game. You can see in the log, i try to explain why i had this attitude towards the guy who was throwing everyone off with the attitude but in the end i had a bad attitude. I told i would make him lose but i didn't. I allways play to win, i allways do. Its just that i cant control myself when i imagine how the hell is a guy with that attitude in real life and towards others. Must be that bully we all know in school. With all that said, i've improved my behaviour drasticaly, this game i went a bit to far and went to my "want to put some sense into this guy attitude" mood. How do you deal with this kind of people? Muting is effective agaisnt them, but doesn't it throw you off? The attitude, how he will do the same next game over and over again?

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Stay Close Dear4 votes

Its 100% fair and deserved. Just put yourself in a position of someone on your team reading this pathethic argument while they re just trying to play and win. It's extremely demoralising and annoying. while you didn't actually troll the game like you threatened to it still caused enough turmoil. And don't explain yourself in game, literally noone cares about that in the slightest. If your teammates are trying, mute the bad guy and do what you can to help.

ZlanderZEE1 votes

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Its 100% fair and deserved. Just put yourself in a position of someone on your team reading this pathethic argument while they re just trying to play and win. It's extremely demoralising and annoying. while you didn't actually troll the game like you threatened to it still caused enough turmoil. And don't explain yourself in game, literally noone cares about that in the slightest. If your teammates are trying, mute the bad guy and do what you can to help.

You're right, thats why its good to have different points of views it makes you more aware of your surroundings, thanks for that. That was what i've been doing but i boiled this time theres only so much bull i can take, its hard to endure sometimes but guess ill try to find a way of disabling chat completly. Tbh i still think one game in many, good will to win, being positive and good honor should be taken in consideration before issuing such a ban, i guess thats the rules and i only have a choice of living with it or leave.

Thanks for the comments so far it helps noticing things you dont notice alone.

EDIT: I stopped appealing for the ban in the ticket. I'll take it w/e. May this 2 weeks serve as a lesson.

ModThe Djinn2 votes

{quoted}ZlanderZEE: i hate %%%%s ZlanderZEE: if i see %%%%s ZlanderZEE: i will fck them. ZlanderZEE: when u have %%%%s all over the world

The above (hate speech -- something Riot has a zero tolerance policy towards) is in addition to a log that harasses and belittles your Blitzcrank for the whole game. This is a 100% justified punishment.

....you would probably know why i talked like that.

Frankly, no. I might get why you were frustrated. I would not get why you resorted to harassment and hate speech. There are more respectful ways to vent or show your frustration.

How do you deal with this kind of people? Muting is effective agaisnt them, but doesn't it throw you off? The attitude, how he will do the same next game over and over again?

Mute them. It doesn't throw me off, and never has. If it does, you now have some time without his bullshit to recover your poise and keep going. Then, at the end of the game, report him and add to the pile that will KEEP him from doing that again.

ZlanderZEE2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jH7W87Og,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-09-10T14:41:20.139+0000)

The above (hate speech -- something Riot has a zero tolerance policy towards) is in addition to a log that harasses and belittles your Blitzcrank for the whole game. This is a 100% justified punishment.

Frankly, no. I might get why you were frustrated. I would not get why you resorted to harassment and hate speech. There are more respectful ways to vent or show your frustration.

Mute them. It doesn't throw me off, and never has. If it does, you now have some time without his bullshit to recover your poise and keep going. Then, at the end of the game, report him and add to the pile that will KEEP him from doing that again.

The Djinn, i wasnt really flaming at Blitz it was more in a laugh way than everything else and he was laughing himself from his weird reactions xD. As for my attitude, i get it i was wrong i've stopped appealing to the ticket. Sometimes i say things i don't want to say when i lose my patience to certain situations. I just wish i could remain cool like you folks can. Well i have to if i dont want a permaban in the future. Thanks for your opinion.

zPOOPz1 votes

ZlanderZEE: i hate %%%%s

ZlanderZEE: i have a job. ZlanderZEE: i have a life ZlanderZEE: if i see %%%%s ZlanderZEE: i will fck them.

ZlanderZEE: when u have %%%%s all over the world ZlanderZEE: or when u work ZlanderZEE: and see them ZlanderZEE: tell me how much patience u have to them

i would make the chat a war zone so he would wake up to what attitude he is having towards others

Pray tell what happened to the other 3 casualties formerly known as your teammates?

ZlanderZEE1 votes

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Pray tell what happened to the other 3 casualties formerly known as your teammates?

Thanks for awnsering.

zPOOPz they were anooyed as well, but they didn't got thrown off like i did. I still helped them as much as i could and respected them. I played to win the game in the end because i knew it wasn't fair to the other 3 teammates. My playstyle wasn't affected by chat. They weren't affected in regards of losing LP or winning LP. I probably said what those 3 teammates thought and wanted to say but didn't say. You can't see me in the chat log disrespecting them because i simply don't do that. I didn't flame them i didn't do anything wrong in regards to my playstyle(ofc im not challenger, im a noob xD ). I was just thrown off by this guy's attitude towards every single move they did on the game. It makes the game really ugh.

EDIT: We won the game, they didn't lose because of me because i played well(in my brain i did XD)

AraMoOse1 votes

There is a 0 tolerance policy on hate speech. I don't even understand how you can look at this chat and try to argue you should be allowed to speak like this to other human beings.

ZlanderZEE2 votes

@Aramoose i agree that it should not be allowed, i did wrong, i never said i didn't have any fault on my behaviour or that i was right. Never did i say it should be allowed to speak like this. What i said its that it was just for a game in many that i did. My only reason to talk like this was to make him aware of his crappy attitude towards his team, but it the end i made myself toxic in the process, for that im really sorry. We are humans and we have emotions. For that reason it would be good for everyone if people like him didn't start a game at min 00:00 flaming the whole team allready, blaming, swearing. You could say that we can mute him and move on. But does everyone do that? No. Can you stay cool and focused ? Probably you can but a lot of people can't and will take it personally and are afraid to talk. Thats what i wanted to do i wanted to speak up for the team(Everyone was anooyed) and make him improve his attitude and i did it the wrong way because i was boiling over his crap.

Yes, i did wrong totally 100% but it was a game in many, everyone has a bad game and everyone has good and bad days, i didn't have bad intentions on my mind but when a person bashes bashes bashes bashes and makes the game so not worth to play it just anooys me because i play for the competitive play for the fun and for the laughes.

AraMoOse1 votes

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@Aramoose i agree that it should not be allowed, i did wrong, i never said i didn't have any fault on my behaviour or that i was right. Never did i say it should be allowed to speak like this. What i said its that it was just for a game in many that i did. My only reason to talk like this was to make him aware of his crappy attitude towards his team, but it the end i made myself toxic in the process, for that im really sorry. We are humans and we have emotions. For that reason it would be good for everyone if people like him didn't start a game at min 00:00 flaming the whole team allready, blaming, swearing. You could say that we can mute him and move on. But does everyone do that? No. Can you stay cool and focused ? Probably you can but a lot of people can't and will take it personally and are afraid to talk. Thats what i wanted to do i wanted to speak up for the team(Everyone was anooyed) and make him improve his attitude and i did it the wrong way because i was boiling over his crap.

Yes, i did wrong totally 100% but it was a game in many, everyone has a bad game and everyone has good and bad days, i didn't have bad intentions on my mind but when a person bashes bashes bashes bashes and makes the game so not worth to play it just anooys me because i play for the competitive play for the fun and for the laughes.

You cannot simultaneously agree that something should not be allowed and ask us to allow it in your case.

There's a difference between 'having a bad game' and 'going on a racist rampage'. It's not like this is just you telling some guy to fuck off...

It's not like you can't "stand up for your team" without the hate speech...

ZlanderZEE1 votes

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You cannot simultaneously agree that something should not be allowed and ask us to allow it in your case.

There's a difference between 'having a bad game' and 'going on a racist rampage'. It's not like this is just you telling some guy to fuck off...

It's not like you can't "stand up for your team" without the hate speech...

@AraMose, i wasn't racist in anyway unless theres some word i said in the chat log that i think it means something but its something else. As for something that should be allowed, yes it shouldn't be allowed but from one game at least the benefit of doubt should be given. I have been pretty pacific for a long time. Anyways i've stopped appealing to the ban as it was deserved even tho harsh to take because i know people that flame almost all games and don't get banned like this.

Thank you for the time taken to read my case and the constructive comments so far. Have a rest of a nice weekend ^^

AraMoOse1 votes

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@AraMose, i wasn't racist in anyway unless theres some word i said in the chat log that i think it means something but its something else. As for something that should be allowed, yes it shouldn't be allowed but from one game at least the benefit of doubt should be given. I have been pretty pacific for a long time. Anyways i've stopped appealing to the ban as it was deserved even tho harsh to take because i know people that flame almost all games and don't get banned like this.

Thank you for the time taken to read my case and the constructive comments so far. Have a rest of a nice weekend ^^

There are two kinds of words that are translated to %%%%%% on these boards, one is racist slurs, the other is homophobic slurs. Whichever one you were using is considered hate speech and is language you should do well to abstain from.

Also, since you seem to be receptive to commentary, I want to encourage you NOT to use other players as a metric for how you should behave in a game. That would be setting the bar a bit... low?

The lowest acceptable standard, in my opinion is the Golden Rule. As I would not want to live in a world where my Ethnic group (or Sexual preference) could be used to abuse me, so I shall not abuse people based on their ethic background (or sexual preferences).

Personally, I prefer to use the perspective that I should be modeling the world I want to live in. If I am inspiring enough, people will join me and we'll make at least part of the journey to that world. If I'm not inspiring enough, then I will do better next time.

ZlanderZEE1 votes

@AraMoOse I'm not using others players as a metric. I will behave how i allways behave in general because this is 1 game in 100.
In general im a person that respects almost everyone both in-game and everywhere. But if theres something i can't stand is people with an attitude towards others.

Offtopic in general: I will never change my attitude, my attitude in my opinion is most of the time fair and humble and im proud of it since i get a pretty damn good feedback in return(in work and personality evaluation from my family and friends). I don't look down on any race or anyone, quite the opposite i receive with open arms people with good intentions and will.

My attitude towards this player in league got me banned. This would be the kind of attitude i would have if i saw a person in front of me in the street doing stuff he/she shouldnt do to another person( but people in the internet have more guts to behave incorrectly).No i wouldn't be racist, no i wouldn't talk like i did here(thats where i went wrong) but heck i wouldn't stay shut, i would do something i wouldnt be the 10th person passing by and ignoring the situation.

And then you reply: But ZlanderZee its just a game! Just mute and go!. And i say its just a game, but its online and there are persons within it so please dont be a pain in the butt and go from 00:00 to the end of the game rawr rawr rawr rawr. My statement here is counter productive since i started an argument and did the same so hence why i changed my mind about not deserving the ban. I totally deserve it.

I'm open to comments not to change myself( there is a limit to how much you can change your personality ) but reflect more on the matter and my attitude. I won't change my personality or how i behave. What i will change is that i will just 1) Remove the whole chat from the game or 2) Mute everyone. Its a radical measure since for me an online game is fun since we find many different people and most of the time enjoy the chat, the goofy moments, the fun stuff, you know. Well i will see how it goes i will try to control my "have to teach this guy how to be behaved but then im not really behaved myself" ugh quite stupid.

THe only thing i envy is how most of you can keep cool about some personalities that you encounter on game(yes i may be one of those stupid personalities, i'm not a saint, im sorry for that). I regret talking like that, i shoulda be nicer , but its so hard to be nice to someone that doesn't deserve any bit of respect for whats hes doing to others.

Once again, im open to discussions and i thank you for your honest opinion. This kind of discussions are allways healthy. Sorry for my 1/10 london.

passıon1 votes

This started off tame and I was like "Huh this isn't so bad."

Then everything changed in a heartbeat

ZlanderZEE1 votes

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This started off tame and I was like "Huh this isn't so bad."

Then everything changed in a heartbeat Yep, rip the "not so bad", had to be a reason riight? xD

Basically for me thats how everything starts in this game. I snap and here we go baby...

FlyingRoboticCow1 votes

Congratulations you now have 30 lvls to learn how not to used hate speech or learn how to mute someone and move on (while also not using hate speech).

ZlanderZEE1 votes

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Congratulations you now have 30 lvls to learn how not to used hate speech or learn how to mute someone and move on (while also not using hate speech).

I wasn't permabanned bro :)

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