Boards›Player Behavior

unfair suspension

Beefy the Beef··2 votes·731 views

Dude... Are the reports given by people verified ? and if so, by who ? I got reported 3 games today. In all 3 of them i got premades who went afk at blue and sat there dancing for 15-20 mins, or went suiciding at nashor and inviting enemy team to kill them, or feeding hard early game and deciding after we had like 10 k gold adv to go int some more, by sitting in the enemy team and waiting to be killed, dancing again. At the end of every game, because we asked the enemy team to report such behaviour, all the rest got reported by the inting premades. And because of that i just got an automated 14 day suspension, after 10 seconds after the 3rd game with inters. How is this fair ? i said nothing offensive, i just asked them why they do this, as the rest of the 8 players, each game, and before i muted them, every game, because they were literally spamming, i told them that i hope they do get banned cuz of their actions. Because of that i got suspended and they probably roam free inting some more games ? just because they are 2 and report the same guys twice for nothing ? Those reports are taken into consideration ? are you kiddin me ? How is this fair ? Who the f word processes those reports ? no one like looks at whats actually happening in the chat ?! i came off of a 10 game restrict for saying "youre a %%%%" to a guy who was following the members around the map as a toplaner from minute one , destroying the ranked game we were in, and because he had a premade , the rest of us got restricted for no damn reason ! (i know that because the rest of the guys were actually good and i friended them so we talked after) . How is this normal, Riot !? tell me ! youre the toxic ones for not sorting your mess with the tribunal, and providing players with automated bans ! This is just bs.

20 Comments

ModThe Djinn2 votes

It's very unusual (in fact nearly unprecedented) to receive a 14-day ban without some sort of violation occurring. If you can post your chat logs the community is usually happy to take a look to see if there's something you're overlooking, or if you should contact Riot Support.

Remember though -- if you were coming off a punishment, your next punishment will typically escalate up at least one tier, if not more than one (depending on your behavior). If there WAS anything in your chat log that might normally have merited a chat restriction it likely got elevated to a 14-day ban due to your previous punishments.

Also, it's worth nothing that premades have no more reporting power than a single individual. A single report makes the system take a look at your game, and any reports past the first are effectively thrown out specifically to prevent premades from grouping up on people.

RallerenP1 votes

Sorry, off topic but-

What's an archivist?

ModThe Djinn1 votes

{quoted}

Sorry, off topic but-

What's an archivist?

Part of the Riot Volunteer initiative. Archivists focus mostly on the creative boards (Story, Art, & Sound and Concepts & Creations), but I helped out on Player Behavior before I got the fancy title, and see no reason to stop now! :)

RallerenP1 votes

I've seen you in other posts helping people on Player Moderation so I thought you were promoted like the Arbiters.

That's quite cool though! Seems like you were promoted in the creative subs nice job!

Moooose32 votes

"who the f word" classic

Chermorg1 votes

Please post your chat logs that are provided in the client so we can provide further insight into why your ban was issued.

RayanV1 votes

Gladly.

Game 1 RayanVH: fck it i had good matchup RayanVH: wohoo RayanVH: go red poppy RayanVH: invade had to burn flash there RayanVH: fck it RayanVH: swag points :D RayanVH: help top poppy RayanVH: please RayanVH: Thats you being rude RayanVH: i pinged you the jgler RayanVH: you know what RayanVH: ho fu ck yourself RayanVH: wp bot RayanVH: i pinged ss RayanVH: why did you swear on me ? RayanVH: why the fu ck are you flaming me ? RayanVH: can you report sion and poppy for random flame on me ? like srsly RayanVH: tyvm RayanVH: i pinged him cuz of vi in the bush RayanVH: muted, lets see who gets restricted after this game :) RayanVH: i flamed no one...wtf...gg guys im not trying anymore :) RayanVH: oh youre premade RayanVH: explains everything RayanVH: no one spammed anything RayanVH: sry mate im tilted cuz of those guys RayanVH: you will lose. RayanVH: not we RayanVH: :) RayanVH: which makes for a great ban RayanVH: ok i muted those 2 monkets RayanVH: lets carry RayanVH: can you report sion for inting guys ? RayanVH: plesae RayanVH: thanks RayanVH: and poppy RayanVH: fun to tint.. RayanVH: i havent flamed at all mate.. RayanVH: i never spammed. RayanVH: i pinged twice to let you know that vi is in the bush RayanVH: surely hope they will mate :) RayanVH: i think so this guy is ruining everything RayanVH: because you randomly use ult + summ spells for no reason RayanVH: and troll in chat RayanVH: have you seen that poppy ? RayanVH: lmao RayanVH: wy you enter to troll i dont get it :-/ some people try to climb the ladder :-/ RayanVH: but i guess youre just hardstuck RayanVH: i see 11 kp RayanVH: im sorry xay RayanVH: i couldve played it better.. RayanVH: please remember to report them RayanVH: wp xay RayanVH: lol that RayanVH: aslo those 2 inters RayanVH: why not push mid if they all commited top to me :-/ RayanVH: can you please report those 2 guys ? RayanVH: please RayanVH: just report them RayanVH: int away, please RayanVH: i said nothing for the past 15 mins RayanVH: they just start inting,

So, poppy, one of the inters, had connection problems for the 1st 2 mins which is no biggie, i told him to start red cuz they already invaded blue. I pinged sion danger top because vi was in a bush, and both of the started flaming me , moemnt in which i said " RayanVH: i pinged you the jgler RayanVH: you know what RayanVH: ho fu ck yourself " They told chat that they start inting cuz we were spamming pings...it was only 2 pings, one from me, one from rakan botlane, after that they started intentionally feeding and im really really sorry that i cant provide their chat as well, because one line of mine was for at least 4 lines of theirs. i decided to mute them after 5 mins of chatting in which me and botlane aced the enemy team, took baron as well, while they were still suiciding in the turrets. for 15 mins it was quiet, and they started sittting in fountain , so at least that was ok. after 15 mins because we were winning 3 v 5, they decided to go in again, sitting in the middle of midlane dancing and tellin enemy team our position in the enemy jungle ( cuz we tried to only pick them off, only way we could win) . Yes,i have alot of lines, so it may arguably be that i spammed in chat, but if i had those lines, they had triple of them, and some of mine were directed towards the game. of course, at the end starting "please remember to report them" , we were aced 40 mins in and the game was lost, they were rushing in our base. and i asked everyone , not only me, but the botlane as well, to report them.

Sorry but this is the only log, and i really dont see the suspension . And yes, i have 2 accounts.

Chermorg2 votes

Post the other two logs, you claim "I got reported 3 games today" but you only posted one log

For one, this is never a thing to say: RayanVH: i flamed no one...wtf...gg guys im not trying anymore :)

For two, you don't need to say in chat you mute people. Just mute them and move on.

For three, don't call for reports, it's harassment and makes the game less fun for the other team.

And lastly, don't harass other teammates, even if you would have done something different or they seem to ignore you.

Did you ever get a punishment before? If so, this would be worthy of another punishment, which would escalate in force.

RayanV1 votes

theres only the one game in my league of legends logs. in the other 2 games i said nothing punishable or presumably punishable.

RayanV1 votes

but i know i got reported cuz they were vocal about it. also , harrassment ? in what way was i harrassing 2 guys who were spamming and swearing in chat ? i was harrassing the toxic ? they said in all chat that we , the rest of us were flaming them, which was not true.

Chermorg1 votes

Yes, surprisingly, it's possible to harass a troll or toxic player. And you were doing just that - calling for reports multiple times, vocalizing your muting of them, etc.

Chermorg1 votes

You either said reportable things and got reported, or they don't need discussed because they were false reports. If they showed up, they were validated, if not, they were deemed false and don't matter, regardless of how they were vocalizing it.

RayanV1 votes

sorry but even for one game with reportable behavior , i dont see the ban.

RayanV1 votes

especially regarding the circumstances

Chermorg1 votes

See below for the reason it may have escalated.

Know that it does not matter as much the severity of the behavior as it does that it happened in the first place. The tiered punishments are not for severity (you don't just keep getting 10 game chat restrictions for mild negativity/toxicity), they increase with repetitive behavior of this nature. The fact you had a prior punishment and within 2 weeks went back to similar negative behavior (instead of muting them and ignoring chat) shows you were not intent on reforming after your chat restriction, thus you were punished again, this time more severely.

ModThe Djinn2 votes

{quoted} RayanVH: you know what RayanVH: ho fu ck yourself RayanVH: ok i muted those 2 monkets

So these are the worst lines from your log, and definitely not acceptable. Yes, I know what they were doing was worse, but that's no excuse for insulting them or telling them to go fuck themselves.

That said, I suspect the only reason this earned a 14-day ban was because you were coming off a previous punishment. In the big scheme of things this behavior isn't that bad, but, since you were already punished, your account is more susceptible to being punished for an occasional one-off of bad behavior.

I'd be extra careful not to be inflammatory, insulting or place blame for a while -- after a 14-day ban your account is on VERY thin ice, as the next punishment is a permanent ban. My recommended solution is to look at everything you're writing before you send it -- if it's not positive or, at worst, 100% neutral (top open to gank, Dragon in 1:20, etc), don't risk it.

Your punishment tier will decrease eventually if you have enough games of good behavior. Best of luck out there!

RayanV1 votes

I had a 10 game chat restriction which i just mentioned in my topic. that was awhile back, like 2 weeks ago. How is that one game worthy of a suspension on the account ? are we playing the same game ? gg guys im not trying anymore was after we aced and got nashor, and they were dancing in the enemy base and from all the stuff that they were saying and all the harrassment that they were making, i dont see the point of that line corresponding to a ban.

Chermorg1 votes

You were warned during your chat restriction that further behavior of the sort would lead to a ban. While it is normal to receive a 25 day chat restriction in between a 10 day restriction and a 14 day ban, multiple things could have led to you skipping that punishment level:

  1. The short distance between your chat restriction and the next punishment. This, especially if you play only a couple games per day (or less frequently) makes it look like you're not even trying to reform after the chat restriction.

  2. Calling someone a ho, while it is not as bad as certain other words, could still have been viewed as derogatory terms being used towards other players.

  3. The fact you spend almost the entire chat log being negative and talking about the past, in combination with the fact you're harassing teammates, calling for reports/mute constantly, etc.

General Esdeath 1 votes

Video evidence?

Kunduct21 votes

Hey buddy guess what I got banned for making a bad pun including weed, and asking enemy team not to end for 5 bucks in the 1st game and the 2nd game they used as "evidence" I got banned for asking for help slightly offensively because they always left me to die when I'm chased. What can we do Rito only cares about the mooney

More from Player Behavior

The indefinite banning of Tyler1
Player Behavior4,799 comments
2,942
votes
14 day ban because playing Nunu Support with Smite is "stealing other people's roles"...?
Player Behavior1,525 comments
1,086
votes
Riot should add monthly status cards
Player Behavior241 comments
843
votes
Reminder that we haven't gotten our Summoner report cards yet :/
Player Behavior145 comments
619
votes
I'm not "triggered" by you throwing insults.
Player Behavior361 comments
548
votes
Black Alistar, King Rammus!!!!
Player Behavior462 comments
503
votes