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A Suggestion for Riot

thenuanderthal··4 votes·817 views

Hey guys so I'm going to make this simple and be as straight forward as i can be here.

So recently I had two accounts that were permanently banned due to what RIOT percieved to be "toxic" behavior. I responded promptly by sending them a pretty nasty e mail because I was pretty pissed off that a game i had spent considerable time and resources on had just flipped me the bird.

This is not an apology thread. I talk sh*t in video games and that's just the way it is.

My proposal to Riot is simple.

Allow your users the freedom of speech by creating a "Big Boy Que" for 18+ users who can handle a little verbal sword play. In this que it is not an option to report other players for "bad behavior".

I would like to see the ban on my accounts and the accounts of others reversed so we can keep playing this game which I think most of us like a lot despite the childish politics of the company that runs it (into the ground).

I understand if I would be banned from ranked solo que for "toxicity". But being banned from creating my own games with my friends? being banned from creating ranked teams with people that I know in my personal life? Seriously?

FFS if you can't jive with this idea, why not permanent in game chat restrictions? wouldn't that allow us to play without hurting anybody's "feelings".

Bless up -The Nuanderthal

20 Comments

TheKennedyCurse6 votes

I don't think they're going to create an entire queue for people to insult each other, that doesn't seem reasonable. Maybe you should learn to manage your anger more effectively.

Erdrik5 votes

Allow your users the freedom of speech by creating

Freedom of Speech is protection from government persecution. It does not protect you from the consequences of your words in the private or public sector.

Riot is not the government and as such you are not protected from the consequences to your words.

why not permanent in game chat restrictions?

They tried that. It resulted in people trolling via gameplay.

IE: "I can't chat?! Fine. I feed every game 24/7 yolo!"

MasterSomething4 votes

There is a major difference between trash talking and harassing. You are clearly on the "harassing" side. Maybe instead of Riot making a "big boy queue" you should grow up and learn to respect other people instead of insulting them.

TheShadow0fFear1 votes

I like the "big boy queue" better so some 10 year old team doesn't report me for talking to my friends during a game.

Erdrik2 votes

How are you certain the other players are 10 year olds? The answer is your not. Which means it is just as possible that you are getting reported by adults that just don't want harassment in the League.

It is difficult to take the OP's suggestion or your posts seriously, when both you and the OP are basically insulting the maturity of everyone who has ever reported a player for harassment.

Love Bots4 votes

There a difference between trash talk and just straight up verbal harassing someone and ruining their day/enjoyment of league.

What look like just trash talk to you might have a different effect on other people. Not everyone have "thick" skin. Your proposal is completely

nonsense because that would mean Riot encourage and/or tolerated toxicity which would stand against everything they have done so far.

Have fun creating another account, keep up the good work I guess.

Timewilltell2 votes

All the trash talking was towards your friends? That's a dumb reason to ban someone.

Erdrik5 votes

Until you realize someone had to report him in order for him to get punished.

R31W1NG2 votes

While I'm betting his report and punishment were well deserved, it is still possible that you talking shit over chat to your friend could be misconstrued by someone who doesn't know you and be reported for such.

Erdrik1 votes

That is still punishable. If they are in the match they can't leave. Which means they are forced to deal with you and your friends "banter". It may be fine between the two of you, but banter between two people requires agreed tolerance from both people. (in the form of friendship) The third player has no way of knowing there even is an agreement, and certainly has not agreed to that tolerance.

The only exception I can think of to this is if it is a full 5 man premade. Even then, if someone reports it means you said something that one of your friends felt broke the agreement.

thenuanderthal2 votes

My whole point is less serious than you think.

It's a game.

It's not the government.

RIOT should loosen up a bit.

Yes Big Boy Que would have lots of trolls, but then more incentive for people to behave themselves in a way RIOT see's fit right?

Just make a separate que where degenerates like me can play and have a little fun is all I'm asking xD

Astôlfo2 votes

Nope.

thenuanderthal1 votes

And if i could add one thing.

Trash talk is pretty common in a lot of sports, and adds to the excitement of the sport.

Boxing for example.

Just don't overthink it too much but it's a free idea for ya RITO :D

Athina4 votes

This is NOT boxing, or any other sport. Riot creates the rules here, and trash talking isn't something they want in their game. If that's something you want to do, you deserve whatever punishment they have coming for you.

Erdrik5 votes

Boxing is not comparable. It is 1v1, And the match is entirely determined by your own abilities. LoL is 5v5 and your expected to work as a team.

The reason trash talking is ok in real life, and not in League of Legends is mostly a matter of "Clarity of Intent". In real life sports, you can read body language, facial expression, hand gestures, and frequently know the person that is trash talking.

This simply is not the case in LoL. Even in your friends list there are many players you "know without knowing". Because their text chat is divorced from their body language, you cant properly judge if they are trash talking or just raging at you. As a result the instinct is to assume insult. To assume troll. To assume hate.

You simply do not have the tools to properly trash talk in LoL. If you try you will just sound like an a**hole.

AramsAreBest3 votes

{quoted}

And if i could add one thing.

Trash talk is pretty common in a lot of sports, and adds to the excitement of the sport.

Boxing for example.

Just don't overthink it too much but it's a free idea for ya RITO :D

You have to be 18 to use this que, therefore you wouldn't be able to.

TheShadow0fFear1 votes

I agree with what he is trying to put out there. People get heated in these type of games. So to make sure you're not hurting some 10 year old's feelings, make the "Big Boy Que" so its ok to get angry and say a few harsh words. This is competitive gaming, people say mean things when they get mad. Even someone with a high maturity level or self-control can get a little salty. don't punish them. we are all human (I hope) and we yell, throw stuff, cry, say mean things, and get angry.

TheShadow0fFear1 votes

people that dislike this are salty that I proved a good point.Fizz

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