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Banned for Third Party Programming

Azethoth··19 votes·2,692 views

So for some reason I have been banned for apparently having used Third Party Programs. First it was a temporary suspension, and after giving them the information they wanted on myself and my account they permanently banned me like a snap of their fingers. I have no words of this unfair action taken towards me. I could've understood that I might've gotten banned for a few days or a week for flaming which many player's deserve and do abuse time and time again. I do not picture myself as a saint, I even do it for fun sometimes and meet great people that way which I have a great time with.

But to ban me permanently or even short suspension for something I have never done in any game what so ever, that is brutally uncalled for to the highest degree, the time I put on LoL even if it was just a few months is not something I want to throw in the trashcan or start over with a new account knowing I can be banned for something like that again.

I even think I know the time I got banned was because I did so well in a game a person threatened to report me for third party usage and I just laughed at him and said sure, thinking people are so sad for not taking defeat that well they got to report someone for something they have never committed. I'm just a normal player that have their good games and their bad games, sometimes I die a crap ton and people say they will report me for feeding, and sometimes I rarely die or do not die at all during a game. So for that reason without Riot even looking up my match history they ban me without good cause, and neglect me the information they supposedly have on me that I have used a third party program to get an edge.

What makes them above that to neglect me the information saying I have done something wrong, while a mass murderer or a burglar that have committed worse crime than me get to hear the information of their crimes read out aloud to them. People's families or friends can even hear the reasons why someone is accused of a crime, or allowed to put someone as a witness, while this is not allowed. My girlfriend is one of the oldest players in LoL and one of the core members of a group of LoL something with Tribunal, which involves fair game in LoL and making sure discipline get's delivered to those that deserve it. She never used third party programs and I even told them they can ask her about me, but they care not on treating people fair.

I want this to get out because I'm sure a lot of people have been treated like this and not gotten their account's back or those that have gotten it back any sort of apology to them for Riot acting like they have. I put this out so Riot cannot ignore it and people once more see a unfair action taken towards someone that does not deserve to be punished. I want either my money back for the skins I bought and the things people gifted to me to be refunded, for this is not fair in the slightest bit.

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AeroWaffle4 votes

I want either my money back for the skins I bought and the things people gifted to me to be refunded

Getting this out of the way first. You're not getting either.

So for that reason without Riot even looking up my match history they ban me without good cause, and neglect me the information they supposedly have on me that I have used a third party program to get an edge.

3rd party bans are issued one of two ways; Trough an automatic detection of a program that has been labeled as a cheat program, or through a manual review determining that the person was scripting. Either way, Riot is unlikely to ban the player the instant they decide the player is cheating. They instead flag the account to be banned the next ban wave.

This is done to limit the information given to users and makers of the cheat programs so that it's much harder to detect what part of the program triggered the ban.

For similar reasons, Riot can't tell you how they came to their decision because they want to keep those methods of cheat detection relevant. A known method of cheat detection is one that is usually useless.

lightningmike4 votes

And in my case where I had not been using a cheat program but have been banned as such? Does this matter just get flushed down the toilet? Riot support says my ban cannot be lifted. But in my defense I had done nothing wrong and they are doing nothing to prove or show me that I have done anything wrong. It is not fair.

Azethoth2 votes

Fine allow them not to tell their scans and data on what they find on people, but I'm still 100% innocent on this matter. But have they ever thought what if some malware has gotten into someones computer. Or the list people have managed to gather up is not listing thing they consider a third party program. People that have done nothing wrong get's hurt with this, and so what if they tell people their data and results just show people they know their tricks. And making it harder to cheat on LoL always adapting never letting up.

XionIsHere1 votes

:\ not being rude or anything, but this wave of random bans happened directly after the update, true Riot should limit information but it won't stop the true filth of the community from using 3rd party programs to gain unfair advantages. It would help to have live feedback to resolve individual problems like this directly pointing out if Sally or James are wrongfully accused of doing wrong. Is the system wrong, no but can innocent people fall victim at times. Yes, when riot claims an unauthorized IP has logged into your account and people end up losing accounts the first assumption should never revolve around "you loaned" your account. To lessen the stress for those few players that are innocent, a specialist should take the time to speak and find out if it is worth looking into or not. Which hasn't been the case, since toxic players are able to come back thanks to the reformed system, legitimate cheaters should pay the ultimate price by eating an IP ban for going as far as scripting and using unfair advantages.

And before someone claims a liar can just delete the folder or evidence, possibly but it would seem to me Riot should be able to pen point the file or files during game guard for the scripts or whatever the heck someone has used. As for people and hate speech(toxic) players should also face a harsh punishment same as the hackers.

AeroWaffle1 votes

:\ not being rude or anything, but this wave of random bans happened directly after the update

Like I said, ban waves are often a result of a scan or inspection much earlier. They might have flipped the switch this update, but I doubt that the decision was made for many of these accounts so recently.

true Riot should limit information but it won't stop the true filth of the community from using 3rd party programs to gain unfair advantages

It's infinitely more difficult if Riot were to constantly give away information that they could keep hidden.

It would help to have live feedback to resolve individual problems like this directly pointing out if Sally or James are wrongfully accused of doing wrong.

From Riot's perspective, they are convinced that player X has used a 3rd party program to gives themselves an unfair advantage. Since you can't accidentally cheat at the game, revealing what program Riot believes was used to cheat is only telling the cheater what they already know, that they cheated, and which program is no longer safe for them to use.

So Riot has zero incentive to reveal how they came to their decision. The best you can ask of Riot is to double and triple check.

XionIsHere2 votes

I guess you hold a strong point, yet but it's wise to account for the .0001% that haven't used 3rd party programs, I hate to even state it in this way, but if Riot can take the time to allow people whom use racist terms, ill language, hate speech, and so on a reform system. What will stop them from behaving the same way? Nothing, somewhere along the way we forgot machines are created by man, and sometimes although rarely mistakes can and will happen.

3rd party programs "We at Riot understand you've used them" can consist of just about anything that's not riot related, [slayer-jinx-wink] considering you could be slammed for playing a secondary game while killing time. Riot claiming they've monitored for a while helps but it doesn't slow down the problem of true cheaters. "We are unable to give you information" would make it infinitely more difficult? That's false as a company Riot can create barriers and precautions to slow down hackers and cheaters, they choose not to. It's a choice for someone to hack, but it's also a choice for them to stop hackers completely by issuing IP bans to repeat offenders, Riot chooses not to go down this route.

Since it would bring down revenue for them, giving people a legitimate date when a 3rd party program was used would not hurt them in the least, and for the .0001% that might be innocent could provide information or teamspeak directly to a riot employee to have his or her PC checked directly by Riot, so they aren't deemed a repeat offender when they MIGHT be innocent.

It's a shame since we're basing this off the margin of error of a program vs actually looking into the problem, sadly it's similar to having camera proof of a robbery and an officer arresting an innocent bystander because they MEET the description.

WildBeard931 votes

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I guess you hold a strong point, yet but it's wise to account for the .0001% that haven't used 3rd party programs, I hate to even state it in this way, but if Riot can take the time to allow people whom use racist terms, ill language, hate speech, and so on a reform system. What will stop them from behaving the same way? Nothing, somewhere along the way we forgot machines are created by man, and sometimes although rarely mistakes can and will happen.

3rd party programs "We at Riot understand you've used them" can consist of just about anything that's not riot related, [slayer-jinx-wink] considering you could be slammed for playing a secondary game while killing time. Riot claiming they've monitored for a while helps but it doesn't slow down the problem of true cheaters. "We are unable to give you information" would make it infinitely more difficult? That's false as a company Riot can create barriers and precautions to slow down hackers and cheaters, they choose not to. It's a choice for someone to hack, but it's also a choice for them to stop hackers completely by issuing IP bans to repeat offenders, Riot chooses not to go down this route.

Since it would bring down revenue for them, giving people a legitimate date when a 3rd party program was used would not hurt them in the least, and for the .0001% that might be innocent could provide information or teamspeak directly to a riot employee to have his or her PC checked directly by Riot, so they aren't deemed a repeat offender when they MIGHT be innocent.

It's a shame since we're basing this off the margin of error of a program vs actually looking into the problem, sadly it's similar to having camera proof of a robbery and an officer arresting an innocent bystander because they MEET the description.

I honestly wish i could upvote this more...

lightningmike2 votes

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So for some reason I have been banned for apparently having used Third Party Programs. First it was a temporary suspension, and after giving them the information they wanted on myself and my account they permanently banned me like a snap of their fingers. I have no words of this unfair action taken towards me. I could've understood that I might've gotten banned for a few days or a week for flaming which many player's deserve and do abuse time and time again. I do not picture myself as a saint, I even do it for fun sometimes and meet great people that way which I have a great time with.

Yo, I got banned for precisely the same thing and no information was offered as to why I was banned. I had never used any form of cheat programs in my 3 years of supporting league of legends, but I was not told why or how I cheated. Plus, I also spent a large amount of cash on skins and champs. Still no justice.

Azethoth2 votes

They can have so many good ways to stop people from cheating on their games, but they choose to do it in such a weird way that hurts their reputation and the people that actually wants to play their games. As I said before they can just warn people that they know they are using a third party program, put them on a list see if they still use programs to cheat. And then ban them for a time if it continues they ban them permanently. And show to all who would try and cheat that they will not allow them to continue what they are doing. Or let people see the reports just in case someone has caught a Virus that ruins LoL and appears as a third program in LoL. So many ways they can make it better

JinAsakura2 votes

http://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/tRs2pvbP-permabanned-for-no-reason

http://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/BbbuMcrG-permabanned-for-third-party-software

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/7hXUJmQA-permanently-banned-support-tickets-give-me-copy-paste-responses?show=flat&page=2

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/6BTTiJPE-hey-riot-time-to-acknowledge-its-your-problem?show=flat&page=4

Four other topics on the issue and you still think Riot haven't made a mistake?

Hawckey2 votes

Yes in fact I do believe every single one of them are full of shit and desperately trying to get their accounts back by spamming the board with their sob stories

Azethoth4 votes

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Yes in fact I do believe every single one of them are full of shit and desperately trying to get their accounts back by spamming the board with their sob stories

I wonder what you would say if it had happened to you, when you never cheat and follow the rules and such. And suddenly get banned. Then you would not like it when someone accuse you of cheating when you are innocent in the matter

Hawckey2 votes

If that actually happened to me, I'd uninstall this shitty game. Quit pretending you weren't scripting, just move on and accept your punishment you dirty cheater

WildBeard934 votes

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If that actually happened to me, I'd uninstall this shitty game. Quit pretending you weren't scripting, just move on and accept your punishment you dirty cheater

the fact you think it's ok to talk to someone like this is disgusting in itself. Put yourself in their shoes for a second and think how it feels? Not nice is it? Do you honestly think this many people are stupid enough to cheat or script on accounts they've played on for years and years knowing full well the risks they run? Riots system is far from perfect and mistakes are always being made as people have pointed out in multiple threads...

Hawckey3 votes

No, I am tired of this wave of scripters flooding the board with this bs about how they are innocent. Do you really think Riot would just perma ban someone unless they are 99.9% sure they are scripting? It is not a robot pulling these bans out, and I guarantee to you that the 99.9% of bans are perfectly justified. Now again, you cheaters still crying after being caught, how bout you stop ruining the game for others, because you are literally worse than someone who spams "kys" in chat. I don't think you realise what the decision process is when someone gets banned for this shit, there are no "accidents" to be made, you fkin liars

Challenger Ahri2 votes

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No, I am tired of this wave of scripters flooding the board with this bs about how they are innocent. Do you really think Riot would just perma ban someone unless they are 99.9% sure they are scripting? It is not a robot pulling these bans out, and I guarantee to you that the 99.9% of bans are perfectly justified. Now again, you cheaters still crying after being caught, how bout you stop ruining the game for others, because you are literally worse than someone who spams "kys" in chat. I don't think you realise what the decision process is when someone gets banned for this shit, there are no "accidents" to be made, you fkin liars

Yes, they actually have wrongfully banned in the past and admitted to doing so. If you are so sick of all these threads, why the Hell are you in Player Behavior? LOL. There are accidents, I'm not saying it happened in this case, but it has happened. Think before you speak!

Hawckey2 votes

Yes, and you want me to assume these hundreds of accounts spamming non stop are truthful? There is probably like 1 or 2 guys that have been banned wrongfully for 3RD PARTY EXPLOITS, and it's probably because they bought their account from a scripter or shared it with someone, so they should be banned anyway. I am in hot topics, and I see this bitching every few post, I want people to understand they are full of shit and to stop sympathising for them

Challenger Ahri4 votes

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Yes, and you want me to assume these hundreds of accounts spamming non stop are truthful? There is probably like 1 or 2 guys that have been banned wrongfully for 3RD PARTY EXPLOITS, and it's probably because they bought their account from a scripter or shared it with someone, so they should be banned anyway. I am in hot topics, and I see this bitching every few post, I want people to understand they are full of shit and to stop sympathising for them

You seem like a delightful person. No one asked what you want or who you should believe. Keep it to yourself, you should be banned for toxicity.

Hawckey1 votes

Lol what u mean? This is a fact, that this boy is lying and trying to fix his dumbass decision to download some sketchy ass shit so that he can flex on some noobs. I think all the accounts on the boards causing people to believe Riot is that incompetent should be banned

Challenger Ahri3 votes

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Lol what u mean? This is a fact, that this boy is lying and trying to fix his dumbass decision to download some sketchy ass shit so that he can flex on some noobs. I think all the accounts on the boards causing people to believe Riot is that incompetent should be banned

Prove it was a fact. You can't, because you don't know. On top of that, calling people incompetent when you can barely make a sentence without sounding like an idiot is hilarious. "flex on noobs", in bronze? Hello??? If a person who is bronze has a 50% winrate and hasn't climbed out of bronze, something tells me they may have not been scripting. Now, to someone with little intelligence, you would blindly follow the herd and say "well riot banned them so it has to be true!!!! hurrhurr!!!!!" All I'm saying is, false bans have happened before. Sure, a majority of these players could in fact be lying, maybe even all of them. But for someone who knows nothing on the issue, and feels the need to comment about it, you look like a fool.

Hawckey1 votes

Have you ever taken a statistics course? If you did, you would chalk up every single one of them as liars when you go on their post, and you would be right more than 99% of the time. And I said that they're the ones making Riot seem like incompetents with all their bs.

Challenger Ahri2 votes

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Have you ever taken a statistics course? If you did, you would chalk up every single one of them as liars when you go on their post, and you would be right more than 99% of the time. And I said that they're the ones making Riot seem like incompetents with all their bs.

90% of statistics are made up, and you don't need a class to know that. You need a brain to think before you speak though, especially on a topic you know nothing about. =) Have a good day, keep flaming like the toxic person you are!

Hawckey1 votes

LOL and that shows how little you know about statistics, they're not "made up", they're made from collected data, moron.

Power Of 91 votes

Well you must feel pretty stupid.

WildBeard931 votes

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Lol what u mean? This is a fact, that this boy is lying and trying to fix his dumbass decision to download some sketchy ass shit so that he can flex on some noobs. I think all the accounts on the boards causing people to believe Riot is that incompetent should be banned

Its anything but a fact. open your goddamn eyes and actually try to be a human being for once. Just because "Rito's 110% accurate system sez so" means it must be true right? You realize that not one of these people actually had any meaningful interactions with riots "support". There was no effort whatsoever made to actually find out and understand these players situations, they were just kicked to the curb and left to rot with the rest of the trash.

Stop being a sheep and realize you precious riot isn't anywhere near as perfect as you think they are...

Hawckey1 votes

I know Rito sucks at balancing and shit but when it comes to detecting a 3rd party software, it's almost impossible to fuck up. Why can't you morons accept that? You call me a sheep yet you're the one following the flock just to talk shit about Rito

Challenger Ahri1 votes

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I know Rito sucks at balancing and shit but when it comes to detecting a 3rd party software, it's almost impossible to fuck up. Why can't you morons accept that? You call me a sheep yet you're the one following the flock just to talk shit about Rito

Impossible? Do you know what that means? I don't think you do. All computers and all humans make mistakes. It is not impossible. Blindly keep following like a 15 year old.

Hawckey1 votes

Note the almost impossible, which means 99.9% unlikely

Challenger Ahri1 votes

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Note the almost impossible, which means 99.9% unlikely

Your percentages are way off and I doubt you have any knowledge of how Riot handles this issue, so it's best to say you are talking out of your ass.

WildBeard931 votes

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I know Rito sucks at balancing and shit but when it comes to detecting a 3rd party software, it's almost impossible to fuck up. Why can't you morons accept that? You call me a sheep yet you're the one following the flock just to talk shit about Rito

Yet they've fucked up before? multiple times? Your so eager to stick up for them through all their hypocritical bullshit yet as soon as you become the victim i guarantee you'll be right back here posting a thread just like the rest of us.

Hawckey1 votes

Yes they have fucked up for the 0.0001%, which I haven't denied. But given you are just another random account begging for your account back, there is pretty much 0 reasons for anyone to believe you, given the odds. You should just accept that and bring your case to Rito themselves, instead of having people believe they shouldn't invest time in League because of how easy it is to get banned apparently

Challenger Ahri1 votes

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Yes they have fucked up for the 0.0001%, which I haven't denied. But given you are just another random account begging for your account back, there is pretty much 0 reasons for anyone to believe you, given the odds. You should just accept that and bring your case to Rito themselves, instead of having people believe they shouldn't invest time in League because of how easy it is to get banned apparently

Here's another reason why you are talking out of your ass. I wasn't one of the ones banned. I'm here to help the truthful ones out. Like I said, it is an issue you have 0 knowledge about, you even thought I was begging for my acct. LUL. Why don't you stay out of it and let the big kids talk?

XionIsHere1 votes

Yes you have a lot of bad people that do bad things, you have a bunch of idiots that are willing to cheat to gain an unfair advantage. But your statement of calling people cheaters happens to be deplorable, Rito doesn't suck but the system can also read false. Oddly enough a bunch of people were perma banned for the same thing 3rd party software, scripting, for those individuals that deserved perma bans should take them. But I find it strange for those who are claiming they haven't script or used any unfair advantage to make it to the top, are banned directly after the update. I apologize you have a narrow way of viewing things, and I'm not telling people to boycott Rito, but maybe Rito should take the time to look into the situation. Also your quote of calling the game sh**y was uncalled for if you're in the forums and you're still playing the game.
Ironically perma banning people, instead of IP banning them won't stop bad people from doing bad things.

duckarp1 votes

Bans for cheating and usage of forbidden 3rd party software are always issued in waves. Many people don't understand or just pretend their innocence. Pretty much every case I've seen here on Boards claiming the same was refuted fast when people realize they may have played from some other computer, maybe in school or at some Internet café. Or they may have tried some software their friend recommended them to try out new skins... ;)

Xantrenger1 votes

Sorry but I haven't done any of those things and I'm still banned I just played vanilla league for about 2 years now. no programs and same location.

Neuronnix1 votes

And you think that its okay to be banned, FOREVER, for doing something like that?

duckarp1 votes

For using software that gives you unfair advantage, while you agreed with being banned for it? Yes. The alternative is much worse.

Azethoth2 votes

I just got word from the admin taking care of my issue on the suspending. And apparently I have been scripting while playing, for how long I have no idea, what I do know if I have not scripted before in any game and I've even looked it up on youtube how to script on LoL and I find is funny and laughable that they say I've scripted when you can clearly see there have been no scripting on my match history or even watched the games. This is getting stupidly absurd*[slayer-jinx-unamused]*

Normad2 votes

Its happening to a lot of people and riot seem to be ignoring the issue and its just disheartening, four separate extra discussions and no riot response whatsoever. I know they can't tell us the details of how they found us but they can at least tell us something? anything so we will feel that the ban is at least justified? I'm sure some are as that's what the bans are for but still. Some acknowledgement of maybe something is wrong would be a massive relief to those of us who have never used any 3rd party programs deemed malicious!

I can see that they have been on these board cause I post made two hours ago about the honor system got a red response. I just want then to acknowledge us and to something to help us with the issue other than believe that we are all just whining that we got caught. Because that's what it feels like they are doing

Azethoth1 votes

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Its happening to a lot of people and riot seem to be ignoring the issue and its just disheartening, four separate extra discussions and no riot response whatsoever. I know they can't tell us the details of how they found us but they can at least tell us something? anything so we will feel that the ban is at least justified? I'm sure some are as that's what the bans are for but still. Some acknowledgement of maybe something is wrong would be a massive relief to those of us who have never used any 3rd party programs deemed malicious!

I can see that they have been on these board cause I post made two hours ago about the honor system got a red response. I just want then to acknowledge us and to something to help us with the issue other than believe that we are all just whining that we got caught. Because that's what it feels like they are doing

This feels just like Warframe's way of Banning people and taking critique the wrong way. Many people have been banned or warned for giving them Critique on their games. Or not even part of a crime and still get banned for just being near the crime of being gifted platinum by a person that got their account hacked. Companies will get their players to leave their games if they can't accept they are wrong and their system is wrong, or at the very least doing something wrong. Instead of just being mad at people for poiting it out

Challenger Ahri2 votes

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This feels just like Warframe's way of Banning people and taking critique the wrong way. Many people have been banned or warned for giving them Critique on their games. Or not even part of a crime and still get banned for just being near the crime of being gifted platinum by a person that got their account hacked. Companies will get their players to leave their games if they can't accept they are wrong and their system is wrong, or at the very least doing something wrong. Instead of just being mad at people for poiting it out

It's the banned peoples words against Riots. No one knows who is right looking from the outside. If you're banned, how does the rest of the community know you weren't scripting? If Riot tells people how they know it was a fact and how, real scripters get away with it. Unfortunately, it's not black and white.

Azethoth1 votes

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It's the banned peoples words against Riots. No one knows who is right looking from the outside. If you're banned, how does the rest of the community know you weren't scripting? If Riot tells people how they know it was a fact and how, real scripters get away with it. Unfortunately, it's not black and white.

Then their friends, people they play daily with should also get banned, my girlfriend sits right next to me have the same thing's installed like me as Curse and uses Discord sometimes as well. But she has not been banned while she plays LoL a lot more than me, hell years more than me. So how come she has not been banned for scripting. I kno it's not black and white but hell they can at least be more clear on what supposedly third party programming they detected on you for using. And I'm sure they can pinpoint that for certain at near 100% without problems and yet people that does not script get suspended. I for one am not looking forward to working my ass of to get back all that I've lost, and the skins I have was mostly gifted to me, which makes me feel sad and ill for the people that gifted me those skins

Challenger Ahri1 votes

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Then their friends, people they play daily with should also get banned, my girlfriend sits right next to me have the same thing's installed like me as Curse and uses Discord sometimes as well. But she has not been banned while she plays LoL a lot more than me, hell years more than me. So how come she has not been banned for scripting. I kno it's not black and white but hell they can at least be more clear on what supposedly third party programming they detected on you for using. And I'm sure they can pinpoint that for certain at near 100% without problems and yet people that does not script get suspended. I for one am not looking forward to working my ass of to get back all that I've lost, and the skins I have was mostly gifted to me, which makes me feel sad and ill for the people that gifted me those skins

A Rioter commented on the issue, see the thread I made.

XionIsHere3 votes

It's not black and white, but sadly innocent people are stuck in the crossfire for no reason. A ticket can be placed but Riot will refuse to help even if you're innocent. But it helps to give people real replies, and speak to them as people "Hello Legend, I sincerely apologize for you being banned but right now we're facing high volumes of people claiming to be wrongfully banned." Could it or would it be easier for them to communicate with players and let them know? Yes, I am pretty sure a lot of these forums would instantly go down because the people would indeed think or believe Riot employee's are taking the time to actually look deep into the problem. Claiming 3rd party programs are running while league of legends can and could revolve around a lot of factors, but it would be similar to having a virus protector telling you "hey you have a virus, but i can't tell you where that virus is located, so say goodbye to your files." When I play league, I'm usually running Curse and a Nexon game in the background, and oddly enough I've never been banned for running a second or third game in the background until recently. Have I cheated in the other games you might ask, no. But if ask have I used cheat codes period, I most certainly have! But it's very disheartening, to put in a ticket with any game asking for assistance, or throwing a report at legitimate cheaters and feeling as if you're problem must be over looked because of the few or massive bad apples that exist.

Neuronnix2 votes

Honestly I am actually scared. I played a game yesterday where the enemy Quinn was pretty much 1v9ing and my adc was toxic as shit, complaining how Quinn was scripting (she obviously wasn't by the way). Long story short, literally 2mins after game I get instant feedback after I reported vayne; I was like holy shit that was quick.

But I know that vayne reported quinn for cheating, and by the looks of it there is a high chance that Quinn's account could get banned because of it even though she was not scripting.

Previously I thought I was immune to getting banned for 3rd party programs because I play League naked, but I have used Discord twice, Overwolf once, and also tried to record some of my gameplay with some software that came with my AMD graphics card once (I forget the name). None of these could be used to cheat and were used several months ago, or years in the case of overwolf and the amd software.

But now I am scared to play because I can get banned for simply winning games, or even less than that, someone could report me for no reason!

I think, if enough people do it, we could get every player banned. Let's just report everyone we see for Cheating and see how many people end up making discussions on the board and maybe eventually Riot will see that there is a problem, or at least fucking address it because automated responses piss me off more than having someone int feed in my games; it's like you are being outright ignored.

Neuronnix2 votes

Also, I do not think the permanban should be handed out so generously. A permanent ban is FOREVER. Someone should only be permanently banned when there is cold, hard, abundant and indisputable evidence against them for a crime they consistently commit that is detrimental to the league of legends community, so much so that in the majority of their games they will find themselves being reported, or something similar. You shouldn't be permanently banned for something you got reported for once or twice, or even 0 times. For example if I hack someone else's account and intentionally feed and get them banned, then I should be permanently banned from the game.

Intentional feeding should have permabans in extreme cases, but in the majority should have at _least _ a month long ban so the player can reflect on their decision, and then when they come back, if they int feed again then they should be permabanned, because if after a month of not playing the game you come back just to feed then obviously you shouldn't be playing the game.

Even if you are scripting, a permaban is a bit much. Although there are a lot of cases where a permaban is definitely deserved, I think it would be better to just be banned long enough that it feels permanent, but you will be able to play the game on your account eventually if you really want to.

Vectros1 votes

So I'm not saying you did it, but I find it hard to believe they found you cheating without there being something fishy on your end...

Glu10Sensitivity1 votes

I don't think you're going to have any success. Typically they scan for 3rd party hacking programs/scripting programs and when they're identified you get the ban.

Most likely, you were running something you weren't supposed to.

BeanToe Box1 votes

i was perma banned as well :c on feb 10th
i do not cheat in anyway :c this is a game me and my bf play and i do bad all the time and sometimes i do really good but for th emost part im sure you cann e asily telll from vieing my games that im just a tunnlle vison scrub who doesnt look at mini map or ping

JinAsakura1 votes

Being someone who has been banned in this wave this isn't just a matter of hur dur I want my account back. One issue is that I'm worried i'll make a new account and the same thing will happen. The other is a matter of pride, while i'm not even close to being good (i'm mediocre at best) I was starting to push for gold this season and had finally started to manage climbing. I've got no issue in saying it was a struggle to get to this point and for all of that time and effort to be thrown away by Riot saying your cheating and you haven't put in the work is a massive kick in the teeth.

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