Don't talk abou your permaban account.Riot doesn't care,they only promote toxicity themselves.

Almal1bre ··2 votes·995 views

I have made my case and apparently they only care about your past bans and judge you on that. Just because i got a 14ban back in april for flame(calling troller premades idiots,silvers etc nothing hardcore) aparently i was forbidden to write on chat at all and once i did i got perma.

Riot judged me about my permaban for indirectly negativity.As a tryhard player who always gives his best self to win the game (even normals) to get permaban for this reason its really eye wakeing.

When every other game people wishing cancer to each other and non stop flame hard,intentionally feed troll etc and get away with it while only baiting the most tryhard to type(type not flame) in chat since they care about their time being wasted and at the end them get punished for it also,shows a system wihout any bit of fairness ,justice etc.

They think it's all black and white and assistance support acts like brainwashed chipped machines that don't realise that these situations there are more colours to it and factors that need to be taken into account.

As i said i was only tryhard ,care about the outcome of the game etc but after this madness riot convinced me trolling is the best way to continue in this game. I had few friends like that as well and now i totally understand them. Since riot doesn't care about fixing their own game time to embrace their actual spirit and waste as much games and experience of others as i can. Besides what's the point tryharding to win a game when u make a cool kick flash 1v5 with lee sin and die when your about to take baron xd.

Riot doesnt realise how many ex tryhards to new trollers they create with their crazy systems.I could mention ten different ways in which they could fix the game and the judgement system but nahh ,they either way won't listen and plus trolling seems waaay more fun xd At least riot taught me well on how to not get banned and be appropriate troller.

Dont worry ill make the indirectly negative actual have meaning this time x.

41 Comments

archerno111 votes

After your 14 days ban, you werent forbidden to write in chat. U were forbidden to be toxic. You posted chat logs in other thread, you were blaming your teammates, calling them apes, threatening with reports, calling them trolls. In fact, your thread was one of rare threads that had Riots response, and Tantram said u were toxic in over 25% of your games. Yet u decided to open new thread?

Almal1bre 1 votes

"blaming your teammates, calling them apes, threatening with reports, calling them trolls" wow it's actually mindblowing if that is what you understood or saw about my other thread.

archerno11 votes

[{quoted}](name=Almal1bre ,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ijNKc387,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-06-28T18:42:01.712+0000)

"blaming your teammates, calling them apes, threatening with reports, calling them trolls" wow it's actually mindblowing if that is what you understood or saw about my other thread.

That was your chat log

Almal1bre 1 votes

nope that is what your eyes see without full image of the story. its like the image with the iceberg ,you only see the tiny tip and you think its small while if you look below the sea it's ten times greater. Expand your logic and open your mind. I've said it many times what happened. Look up and leave the one view judgments.

archerno11 votes

[{quoted}](name=Almal1bre ,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ijNKc387,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-28T19:33:53.618+0000)

nope that is what your eyes see without full image of the story. its like the image with the iceberg ,you only see the tiny tip and you think its small while if you look below the sea it's ten times greater. Expand your logic and open your mind. I've said it many times what happened. Look up and leave the one view judgments.

There is no need for any expanding. U were toxic, u got banned , u got chat log with obvious reasons. Move on.

Almal1bre 1 votes

i have moved ,but in my life i fight injustices i don't sleep and turn the other cheak like you. "obvious reasons" sure.

Starcraft243ver8 votes

Enough talking, it's time to post the chat logs !

ModPrandine6 votes

You were already given the reasons why you got banned in your other thread, but you just don't like the answers that you were given. Not only that but your attitude in both this thread and your other thread shows why your punishment is deserved, since you seem unwilling to interact with others in an appropriate (mature and respectful) manner.

P.S. Trolling does get punished as well and when caught is an immediate 14-day ban to start it off. In case you don't believe me here are two examples of gameplay trolls being banned. Yes it's just two examples, but it proves that they do get punished.

Almal1bre 1 votes

Of course i didnt since it didnt have logic lol. "you seem unwilling to interact with others in an appropriate (mature and respectful) manner." Sure bro ,youre on point lol. I interact on the same lvl as the opposite interacts, if you have good mature lvl with correct arguments i ll follow, if you r just hater with troll comments with no logic trust me i can follow to that too.

Im sure you prefer in your team intentional trollers that waste your time and you typing them gj and keep going to show how good riot boy you are,than tryhards like me that ll carry u and i wont even talk or even aknowledge you within the game unless you intentionally hard int.

ps It may get punished but in relation to the other categories of bans it get banned like 1% of the time which is crazy since feeding and intentionally desotrying games should be the most bannable offence by far, and not the "rep the troller" or being "indirectly negative" But dont worry as i said they trained me well, i ll show them true negativity ,since they want to create more trolls so bad.

ModPrandine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Almal1bre ,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ijNKc387,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2017-06-28T19:24:13.145+0000)

Of course i didnt since it didnt have logic lol.

I disagree. Most of the comments there trying to explain to you why you got banned seemed pretty logical to me. For example, from The Djinn:

This is all definitely punishable, unfortunately. If you were coming off a 14-day ban there is NO room for insults or bad manners, and calling other players apes, telling them to grow up, and ending with the equivalent of "bad game" is not a good example of reformed behavior.

By AlienPrimate:

Many people including myself have never been punished. It isn't that hard to avoid getting banned. All you have to do is not say anything about how someone is doing. Giving advice is always fine, but saying "you're bad" and "elo" continuously isn't helping anyone. Instead of calling someone trash just ask them to change their play style or tell them what they are doing wrong. If they don't change after that then just move on. What I have noticed is that the chat logs of people who are banned are always really long. After the first 3 minutes of the game you shouldn't really be typing at all. You can't last hit when you are typing. Bottom line is, if you don't have anything useful to say that contributes to your team's chance of winning like strategy talk or calling out cooldowns then don't say anything at all.

From YerroFever:

you wouldn't have been intetnionally trolling nor wasting the time of other and then i prob wouldnt have said a word as well xd see it's all a big circle

This is why you got punished. You are responsible for your own words and your own actions.

You can't rob a person and then go to court and say you should be found not guilty because you had no money of your own and you needed someone else's.

Same thing here. You can't blame someone else for you being toxic. All you can do is report them for trolling and make the best of a bad situation.

These are 3 examples of people who respectfully explained to you why you were punished. If you don't like the answers given, that's fine, but the fact remains that logical answers were given.

"you seem unwilling to interact with others in an appropriate (mature and respectful) manner." Sure bro ,youre on point lol. I interact on the same lvl as the opposite interacts, if you have good mature lvl with correct arguments i ll follow, if you r just hater with troll comments with no logic trust me i can follow to that too.

No offense but you kinda make it hard for others to have a conversation with you when you just dismiss all logical answers you don't like as illogical.

Im sure you prefer in your team intentional trollers that waste your time and you typing them gj and keep going to show how good riot boy you are,than tryhards like me that ll carry u and i wont even talk or even aknowledge you within the game unless you intentionally hard int.

No one likes having poor behaving players on their team, not even me. However, I personally have never been warned nor banned because I don't stoop down to the level of the trolls whenever they appear. I get frustrated sure but I yell and rage at the screen instead of in the game.

ps It may get punished but in relation to the other categories of bans it get banned like 1% of the time which is crazy since feeding and intentionally desotrying games should be the most bannable offence by far, and not the "rep the troller" or being "indirectly negative"

Gameplay trolling is harder to detect because the system has to actually prove that they're actively trying to troll rather than just having a bad game or two. Compare that to chat-related offenses which are much easier to detect and prove since it's more readily available. Both do get punished, it's just that one is easier to detect than the other is.

But dont worry as i said they trained me well, i ll show them true negativity ,since they want to create more trolls so bad.

OR, instead of stooping down to the level of a banned troll rager you could try actually improving your behavior for the better to avoid being banned again for poor behavior. Really all that gets accomplished from becoming a troll yourself is just proving that Riot was right to ban you in the first place.

P.S. Only your chat is shown because only your behavior caused you to get punished and only you are being judged in your case. Yes other people may have behaved worse than you did but at the end of the day you chose to act and behave in a way that you knew would just tick other people off, hence why you got punished.

Almal1bre 1 votes

All the arguments above from the people commented have my responses below no need to start over with the copy pasting.

"OR, instead of stooping down to the level of a banned troll rager you could try actually improving your behavior for the better to avoid being banned again for poor behavior. Really all that gets accomplished from becoming a troll yourself is just proving that Riot was right to ban you in the first place."

See you even talk about me improving my behaviour when i ve done nothing special more than then next guy lol .For riot there is nothing to prove , they want to have trolls i ll show them proffesional trolls that make this game ten times worst for everyone involved.

Athina5 votes

Riot doesn't care,they only promote toxicity themselves.

How does banning toxic accounts promote toxicity? That's the exact opposite logical conclusion I can think of. They ban accounts because they are toxic and should therefore create a better environment for everyone.

aparently i was forbidden to write on chat at all

Riot doesn't give permanent chat restrictions or completely disable chat for a player.

As a tryhard player who always gives his best self to win the game (even normals)

It's okay to want to win a game, but trying to do so by yelling at your teammates that they suck doesn't help the situation.

When every other game people wishing cancer to each other and non stop flame hard,intentionally feed troll etc

Those people get punished too. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Since riot doesn't care about fixing their own game time to embrace their actual spirit and waste as much games and experience of others as i can

At it's core, the goal of a video game (almost any one, really) is for its players to have fun. Again, bringing down your teammates because they aren't playing well doesn't reflect this.

I could mention ten different ways in which they could fix the game and the judgement system

Then why don't you? If you are know all the answers like you say you do, then show us.

Almal1bre 1 votes

{quoted}

How does banning toxic accounts promote toxicity? That's the exact opposite logical conclusion I can think of. They ban accounts because they are toxic and should therefore create a better environment for everyone.

Banning toxic accounts doesn't.The untouch of trollers and Their unjustice and wrongfull bans on tryhard/normal players that may got furstrated cause they value their time create new even more toxic players. It should create a better enviroment yet their system makes sure they create an even worst enviroment.

Riot doesn't give permanent chat restrictions or completely disable chat for a player. i know sitll it would be far more effective than their current bad techniques.

It's okay to want to win a game, but trying to do so by yelling at your teammates that they suck doesn't help the situation.

And here is the 1million dollar point. IT'S NOT PLAYERS THAT SUCK, ITS INTENTIONAL TROLLERS that have no intention of playing the game ,only as much as time of others as possible. Only toxic braindead flame in league on players that are just bad on the game.Here is the black and white point above.

Those people get punished too. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Well they maybe do in extreme situations but your random troller that waste countless amount of games of normal players unless he doesnt type but just troll riot takes it as just "another bad game"

At it's core, the goal of a video game (almost any one, really) is for its players to have fun. Again, bringing down your teammates because they aren't playing well doesn't reflect this.

HAHAHA bringing down your teammates? what you smoking.. THEY ARE INTENTIONALL TROLLERS without intention of trying for the game -team-win etc, these two words seem like invisible to you guys. Having fun doesnt mean wasting the time of the other players in the game. None is flaming someone for not playing well. Its all about the INTENTIONAL TROLL you don't seem to accept.

Then why don't you? If you are know all the answers like you say you do, then show us.

Why should i? they don't care and as it seems nor the community seem to care about improvement. You just seem happy bent over and get the d from the trollers and riot with all these unlogical and unfair systems. Logic that contain you should get perma for saying rep to the inters that wasted your time and your game and other crazy stuff. Keep sugarcoating the trollers and think your the bigger man when they do you what they want. (Plus it's really easy to tell the improvements, It takes only one step. THAT IS REALISATION.

ModPeriscope3 votes

I don't see how they promote toxicity when they banned you for being toxic.

Almal1bre 1 votes

well because i wasn't it's very simple. But i guess its never too late to be xd

Jo0o3 votes

"You are negative/harassing in over 25% of all your games." -Riot Tantram

Dude literally checked your history and determined that you're an incredibly and consistently unpleasant person to play the game with, and that League is better off without you.

Almal1bre 1 votes

Dude i didn't get perma from league lol if you only knew what i do or how many accounts i play or have access to.The point is you to get out of bed and wake up.

""You are negative/harassing in over 25% of all your games." -Riot Tantram Well thats a statement anyone can make on their own standards. Far from the truth though.

i'm really hard toxic. i say to report intentional feeders and trollers premades that waste everyones time.. OMG i really need perma xd (if you are like these trollers then trust me of course it won't be a pleasant experience for you playing with me)

Jo0o3 votes

So you swap between accounts when they're banned? Seems reasonable.

Stop calling for reports though, it's pointless. One report causes a review. They hate when you do that.

Almal1bre 1 votes

Nope.This is my second ban, Back in the day when i was on mood i would flame the shit out of everyone but after league became more like a money thing i didn't even bother to swear or be involved. I don't care what they hate or not, They should have logic behind their decisions. Which they obviously don't ,since calling for report to a troller premade isnt a permabannable offence lol. But as i said it's k they want me to be negative , i'll show them the true negativity. A lot of NA players comment though in my sections. Which is weird seems im euw and the things are way different in terms of toxicity between the regions.I honestly believe with all the NA people commenting about my "toxicity" if they actually saw full image of the games and what was happening they would have suicided if they get so easily shocked and cry for my permaban.

Jo0o1 votes

Aren't there EUW boards? If you don't like my filthy NA opinions, you're welcome to go there. You're on the NA boards, though.

If you've been banned twice, you're a shitty member of the community, and I'm not particularly interested in your opinions on the "logic behind their decisions".

Almal1bre 1 votes

of course you re not ,you r just a hater ,, why logic would be important to a hater. (plus the service support provided me that link. Tyler 1 has been banned 22times yet he is still one of the favourite guys of the community. So your logic about my second ban and me being bad member is kinda messed up. (Unless the community is braindead underage kids with no will or any kind of though abotu justice ,rights etc. then bet your ass im not part in that.)

Kei1432 votes

Its black and white, you harass / abuse others, you get punished.

Almal1bre 1 votes

if you harrass and abuse then it's normal i agree. But in cases where you get banned without doing that then it isnt really blakc and white

Kei1432 votes

You might not know or think that you were harassing and abusing others, but it is kidda black and white that you did.

Almal1bre 1 votes

Nope, Since they were intentional trollers, it wasn't a normal circumstances game that i was "being toxic". A lesson , most things in life are not black and white( what you say is riots,and hitlers logic)

LightSprite1 votes

So... The Honor system 2.0 comes out today... yet that's Riot promoting toxicity? Logic...where?

Almal1bre 1 votes

By unfair outocmes of judgements without using proper fairness tacticts or any justice at all.

YerroFever1 votes

I could mention ten different ways in which they could fix the game and the judgement system but nahh ,they either way won't listen and plus trolling seems waaay more fun xd

Actually, riot does want to hear how you believe they can improve their systems. Make your post. This is also part of the reason why they have the forums with this section. If an idea is brought up that they haven't thought or an improvement on their existing system, they may try if it hasn't already been tried.

Almal1bre 1 votes

nah they don't wanna listen. They prefer this hitlers black and white system with no logic or justice.

SciFi Scrivener1 votes

Been playing just over a year and not one warning, just saying.

Almal1bre 1 votes

i play since s4 , trust me i have seen ten times more toxic ,troll ,etc than my case of "indirectly negativity" that needed permaban and not even given a single warning.

Simbafluff2 votes

{quoted}

Been playing just over a year and not one warning, just saying.

Good man! I've been playing for 4 years and still no warning. :D

SciFi Scrivener1 votes

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

SEKAI1 votes

The thing is, when you're already at 14 day ban, getting perma which is the next step, is incredibly easy. And that's kinda what happened, as you continued to shit talk instead of staying low even while you've just come out of 14 day ban.

And perma it is.

You should've known better. They warned you that it is perma that follows 14 day ban. Why do you not only not staying low, you were still actively spouting shit to your teammates, with stuff like calling them apes and special and whatever?

Why?

Almal1bre 1 votes

i didnt have just come out ot the 14. its been two motnhs or more. My "shit" as u say weren't toxic. And definitely not toxic for perma.

Lucian Waifu1 votes

Holy....... This guy is so toxic I would gain superpowers just from having to listen to the sludge that comes out of his mouth.........................................

Almal1bre 1 votes

ye im hard toxic. i don't like inters that waste our time.. Jesus. or maybe im one of the few that actually value my free time.

Jorencice1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Almal1bre ,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ijNKc387,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2017-07-01T15:16:30.496+0000)

ye im hard toxic. i don't like inters that waste our time.. Jesus. or maybe im one of the few that actually value my free time.

KeK

Says he values his free time.

Spends it playing a video game...

At least im honest enough to admit playing video games is a worthless hobby.

Still love doing it though.

Almal1bre 1 votes

it's not if it satisfies you. the point is to not take over your life and only play video games and do nothing but that. Now for me league is like within the 4 things i do (besides the gfs,going out etc)

FreeKittens1 votes

if you feel riot has not applied the AUP or summoners code correctly file for arbitration. see the AUP for how to do so.

Almal1bre 1 votes

There is no hope for them sadly. Thats why game will continue to worsten. They make sure of it.

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