Unfair banning's that are legit thievery.

EskTheOgre·Sep 17, 2017·3 votes·3,204 views

This was literally the first match after a two week ban. They were all flaming the entire time and feeding hard early. They threw literally 10 minutes in t the tried to early surrender but another player declined and blamed me, (the 0-3 5 minutes in miss fortune.) This match ended up me literally having to defend myself from my trolly ass teammates because i mentioned i had come off a two week ban and one of the (what im assuming is a troll) kept askign for reports on me for not ganking. After i explained 100 times that im not gonna gank when im an eve with no combat items and you have fed 5 kills with the support already. I would consider my conduct above and beyond what the average person would consider appropriate especially when your team is feeding,flaming and trying to pin it on the jungle the top played someone they never tried and cried about it all game and then went into jungle and eventually bot just letting teemo free farm all after feeding. I understand i can be an abrasive person but it is so common for me to have people feed or troll for no reason or even out of spite. I play ranked, i'm trying to rise in rank and take it somewhat serious, I dont ask that of anyone all i ask is of basic skills and to not be toxic or trolls.

MY point being i get banned for saying next to nothing offensive and these people literally troll on purpose and get to continue playing. The only thing i could do was mute and i did, the only reason i unmuted them in the first place is because the enemy was claiming they are accusing me of a bunch of bs and considering i just got off a two week ban i couldn't really do anything either way. i even had a player on thier team apologies for my mine and i told our mid, (who didnt do well but at least wasnt trolling)gj nice try sorry for the team. I just don't under stand the banning system because at worse i was slightly ruse to a group of people trying to piss me off. Game 1 EskTheOgre: hue EskTheOgre: show em yas EskTheOgre: i dont look invis EskTheOgre: thanks EskTheOgre: first match after a two week ban , trust me im the handicapped player here lol EskTheOgre: shes noob champ , EskTheOgre: thanks EskTheOgre: whyd you swap then EskTheOgre: really... EskTheOgre: fucking game crashed. EskTheOgre: fuck you riot EskTheOgre: you didnt typ EskTheOgre: type EskTheOgre: i dced retard. insulting the person you are asking for help is a terrible way to get results EskTheOgre: holy fuck you fed her hard EskTheOgre: report them please EskTheOgre: gg im just gonna mute everyone before i get salty as fuck EskTheOgre: i didnt know you fed her so hard. EskTheOgre: now they have been EskTheOgre: she got one kill on me while i was dc'd EskTheOgre: after you fed two EskTheOgre: again just gonna mute EskTheOgre: you have to macro him EskTheOgre: shes broken as fuck you just cant macro a circle or use sense EskTheOgre: he was baiting into mushrooms catch on EskTheOgre: i cant fight him EskTheOgre: report fi please EskTheOgre: she is jungle now apperently EskTheOgre: becasue not a single teamate is able to kill yet keeps fighitng./ EskTheOgre: look at my items, i have one combat item EskTheOgre: for? EskTheOgre: i ask for reports becasue top gave up and bot fed 4 kills 5 minutes in EskTheOgre: cept i didnt EskTheOgre: it is an abbrivation moron. mute EskTheOgre: no EskTheOgre: clearly no EskTheOgre: they are either trolling or bought thier accounts. EskTheOgre: i didnt give you shit teemo lmao EskTheOgre: they keep raging at me to gank after feeding all game. EskTheOgre: just muted e EskTheOgre: em EskTheOgre: dont troll EskTheOgre: thank you. EskTheOgre: gj yas EskTheOgre: sorry for you as well EskTheOgre: i did kek EskTheOgre: unmute for more trolls. so now i know who did it EskTheOgre: meh enjoy the mute / ban EskTheOgre: how so? EskTheOgre: never flamed, never afked and i died all times from your lanes 2 hitting me. EskTheOgre: so good luck kiddo EskTheOgre: you fed early EskTheOgre: i cant help you EskTheOgre: so i died once from a bad play EskTheOgre: so what? EskTheOgre: one quote lol. gj again , try harder kiddo EskTheOgre: how is it toxic? EskTheOgre: \im trying to have a discussion but your youth and reasoning skills show you to e incapable. EskTheOgre: its not automated. EskTheOgre: do some reasearch please. EskTheOgre: how so? EskTheOgre: i refuted every point you have brought up EskTheOgre: how is it feeding getting two hit by a teemo that got fed off your teammates EskTheOgre: i dced for literally 20 seconds. what ever reported. you arnt worth my time. EskTheOgre: not at all

44 Comments

ChermorgSep 17, 201715 votes

MY point being i get banned for saying next to nothing offensive

But then this:

EskTheOgre: i dced retard

but your youth and reasoning skills show you to e incapable.

EskTheOgre: i didnt give you shit teemo lmao

That's barely any of the things that are wrong in your chat logs.

I would consider my conduct above and beyond what the average person would consider appropriate

You can consider your conduct whatever you want. However, you were warned previously (with your 14 day ban and any other punishments you had) that this behavior is not considered appropriate. And Riot (and the community) win in this case - it doesn't matter what you consider it.

You even basically admit in the chat to unmuting them so you can respond more. That's a big no-no and just shows that you're trying to be negative, abrasive, and toxic. If you unmute someone just to flame them more, that's basically the definition of having a toxic mindset.

HaIlMonitorSep 17, 20171 votes

Part of the problem (And I do think the op needed to be rebanned), but why do chat logs not show others, and if they are calling him the same stuff but he doesn't report them, why is he getting banned but they don't? Do they not look at the whole chat log, and just at half of it? Usually people dont just blow up, so there are two sides to the story.

ChermorgSep 17, 20176 votes

But each person is responsible for their own actions. Yes the system is automated, but it relies on reports to flag behavior for review. It doesn't automatically review games.

HaIlMonitorSep 18, 20171 votes

That just seems super flawed. If a single person in a game reports anyone , the whole game should be reviewed for whatever it was. For example if I report someone for being racist, it should look at the comments everyone made. The way the current system seems to operate is for people to just "ignore the problem" because if the the trolls wins in the current system.

ChermorgSep 18, 20173 votes

That's actually not a horrible idea.

I can't speak with certainty, but I think the reason Riot does it the way it is done is they use report statistics to refine their punishment criteria. If a certain type of behavior is frequently reported by people from all over the community, it can become punishable where it wasn't before.

If they did it this way, it'd make it harder to refine the system as people may only report one person knowing everyone would get reviewed.

That's just my two cents, again nothing official and it could be way out of the ball park.

EskTheOgreSep 18, 20171 votes

or don't ban people for being slightly rude. If someone is being ridiculous and spewing hate speech or something i understand but other people can mute them. Their is a reason no other company banns players for being rude and its because its such a horrible business practice, keep in mind they keep all the money you've spent over the years hypothetically. Literally no other competitive game has such a stupid and shady business method.

HalcyonDwellerSep 28, 20172 votes

slightly rude is subjective. Maybe compared to what your teammates were saying it was only 'slightly rude' but compared to the norm it was above and beyond rude.

Self defense =/= retaliation. And you literally admitted to unmuting them so that you could argue more. There was absolutely no possible positive reason to do this.

You were negative.

Accept it.

Learn from it.

EskTheOgreSep 18, 20171 votes

it sends you one chat log with the reasons you are banned, i dont know how to find a transcript of a match for lol unfortunately. i posted what i was banned for and the game quoted. I'm sure two of them did receive punishment considering how obvious of a trolly move it was. why do you think i should be perma banned and have them keep my money for saying, at most three disrespectful comments to toxic teammates?

EskTheOgreSep 18, 20171 votes

re read. i said other wise. "The only thing i could do was mute and i did, the only reason i unmuted them in the first place is because the enemy was claiming they are accusing me of a bunch of bs and considering i just got off a two week ban i couldn't really do anything either way." its unmuting to explain, cause as its been stated the automated system goes off either way.

EskTheOgreSep 18, 20171 votes

three comments in 20 minutes. How is that remotely offensive and the third is you miss reading. teemo apologized to me for the trolls and and said how much it sucks for me . later in the match he said something about me not playing well and i respond with i didn't give you shit lmao, to wich he responded "lol". i dont think you bothered to read it clearly. Specifically when the crux of your argument is made off of bs. "This match ended up me literally having to defend myself from my trolly ass teammates because i mentioned i had come off a two week ban and one of the (what im assuming is a troll) kept asking for reports on me for not ganking. " You can interpret things how you want but thats not even close to what i said. F=So you can understand i unmuted to defend myself from my team. Means unmuting to try and reason with them, but since they responded in very childish manners i stopped and told them why. literally re read dude.

ModThe DjinnSep 17, 20176 votes

{quoted}EskTheOgre: i dced retard. insulting the person you are asking for help is a terrible way to get results EskTheOgre: holy fuck you fed her hard EskTheOgre: it is an abbrivation moron. mute EskTheOgre: so good luck kiddo EskTheOgre: one quote lol. gj again , try harder kiddo EskTheOgre: \im trying to have a discussion but your youth and reasoning skills show you to e incapable.

So in this game -- your first game back -- you not only jump on your teammates for their mistakes but also call them morons, kids, and incapable of reasoning.

You were on your final warning, and kept up toxic activity. This is a predictable and expected outcome.

EskTheOgreSep 18, 20171 votes

first comment was after 3 accusations for feeding their lane and then blaming me for it, pretty much the crux of the issue. how is holy fuck you fed her hard toxic? 0-3 5 minutes in , thats an accurate description no? 3) called me an illiterate moron for using an abbreviation. 4)called me out on the "dc'd" comment and was saying i was lying and fed on purpose. 5) how is that even insulting? i was asking what i did wrong and they where saying im a feeder,retard and flaming. look at my language , its not remotely threatening no inappropriate. last time i checked "im trying to have a discussion but your youth and reasoning skills show you to e incapable" isnt offensive in anyway and is literally calling out a child acting childish. Their is nothing wrong with being a kid obviously its not an insult.

Colgate GatorSep 18, 20176 votes

Seems warranted.

Sorin AlucardSep 17, 20173 votes

lmao bruh, come on bruh, can you not read what you typed?

EskTheOgreSep 28, 20171 votes

again how is it remotely fair of a perma ban? explain, are you saying you've never had an argument in rank with a troll team? its truly baffling how many people seem comfortable shiting on people who got banned but then use no logic or even an argument. and if you think Two mild insults ina 20 minute match with literal trolls is fair? then you should get off the internet because you have no understanding of basic human concepts.

Sorin AlucardSep 28, 20171 votes

LOL

You aren't supposed to get in fights with trolls. I know its tempting and I've done it before but you're supposed to learn at some point that two wrongs don't make a right. If you go off the deep end flaming the shit out of your allies you're punished for it. Doesn't matter what they did. They probably got punished too. You're not excused

even at the end of your comment you go down to insults. grow up

Coopa123Sep 17, 20172 votes

And by the way ...

Two weeks ago a Riot employee said this to you: "You've received penalties in the past, so this was the next step up the ladder per the Instant Feedback System. At this point, any kind of negativity is going to issue a permanent suspension so this is a really good time to be open to feedback and consider all things. "

Remember that? Maybe you should have listened

EskTheOgreSep 18, 20171 votes

two comments had an insult in it . 20 minutes with two actual insults isnt remotely toxic.

Coopa123Sep 18, 20171 votes

Yet it is. One insult is enough to get you banned permanently. That's what the ban message said when you got banned for 14 days. And that's exactly whan a Riot employee told you ...

EarthyMadnessSep 17, 20172 votes

How sad, I actually really like your name, Xanth is one of my favorite series in the world.

But yet, you were toxic, and now that name is lost forever. gg

XxxLumberJackxxXSep 17, 20171 votes

{quoted}

How sad, I actually really like your name, Xanth is one of my favorite series in the world.

But yet, you were toxic, and now that name is lost forever. gg

Peemabanned names don't get put back in the pool?

Imperial PandaaSep 17, 20171 votes

Nope.

EarthyMadnessSep 18, 20171 votes

Well, the name is linked to the account. The account receives the penalty. So the name is therefore "linked" to the penalty. If, for example, a permabanned account could/did change their name, they'd still be perma'd because the account is, but the name would be free.

EskTheOgreSep 18, 20171 votes

you can thank the thieves that work at riot who think defending your self with logic and very few actual insults will result in this. I said two actual insults but unfortunate this is an sjw thief pile and hopefully more of the community will realize this. regardless there are a hundred better names and characters then esk

EskTheOgreSep 28, 20171 votes

Its incredible how negative the community has been towards this post, I was nothing but polite yet everyone of these comments is rude, petty , and ill informed. It really shows as a testimate to how pathetic this community is.

ROX PrimeDec 27, 20171 votes

Agreed man i tried making a post like this a was met with the same. These post are more toxic than what u said In game. Its sad cause they treat the summoner code like its the word of god. Its literally a flaud set of rules too braud to defend or attack. Aswell as the only set of rules of its kind in gaming.

The Skull KingSep 18, 20172 votes

This is what sucks about a two week ban. Once you get it, it doesn't matter what your teammates are saying/doing. You're the only one that matters in what you say and do. If the enemy team is flaming you. Someone once said on the boards that the enemy team has nothing to add to your game so I turned off all chat and never looked back. If your teammates are flaming you, mute that person, mute them all if you have too. Just keep playing and doing your best. When my teammates are doing poorly and tilt me. I yell at the screen instead and keep playing.

EskTheOgreSep 18, 20171 votes

i didn't flame them. I never once did. Hence the annoyance. I responded to them at the start becasue if you mute the team and die, they just report for something else. The community is full of spiteful teenagers mostly. literally this tho.

LapieOct 6, 20172 votes

Wow... I got perma'd and I never even said what this guy says.. Lmao. What's worse is I've actually learned from it, which this guy clearly has not. I say this as he's arguing with every response on this thread without accepting he was wrong in saying anything. What's worse he typed so much his one chat log was longer then both of my reported games. I'mma tell you as someone who was also banned for toxicity, you are toxic, it's clear. Take some time off re-think your life, fix some exterior things about yourself and then try playing the game again. I cried when I lost my account, I'm 21 years old and I balled, I thought I was invincible, like it'd never happen to me. Even after my 2-week ban I only stayed tilt-free for a month in a half before starting to get toxic again. You know what I've learned from all of this? You're you man, and only you, you're in a team game but truth is it's still just you. You're the one controlling your actions, you cannot control others. Your bot lane is feeding, ok, if you NEED to type something, tell them it's fine and they'll get it next time. Why? Several reasons why, one mainly being it'll make YOU feel better. Especially if that person apologizes or actually acknowledges your support. You need to have empathy, put yourself in their shoes. Your feeding, your losing this game for your team, and your 4-1 toplaner says it's fine and to keep trying. That's a morale boost they need, it can actually turn a game. You tell them they're trash and to cs better, git gud, boosted, etc, you honestly think that's going to make them want to try? I can tell you from personal experience that I used to start inting when a teammate wanted to flame me for dying 2 times. That's how people react when flamed for dying, it doesn't help anyone on the team. Also what gives you the right to tell them how bad they are? Chances are they're in the same elo as you, meaning you have issues that keep you back too(probably tilt), so what makes you the one to point out their mistakes? Who determined you the team coach? Oh nobody? Exactly. You're your own coach, flame yourself for making a mistake. Need to type something? Say "I'm so damn bad". Made a mistake? "Sorry guys I fucked up" chances are they aren't going to flame you for saying these things. You're being honest, your being genuine. Your acknowledging your own mistakes. I've had cases where a jungler started helping me after I said sorry for dying or what not. It's human nature to help one another. The biggest thing I think you need to understand is this is a team game, you MUST rely on your teammates in some form, but you also need to worry about yourself the most. This isn't COD where you can get 20 kills and win the game even if your team is bad. This is a game where you NEED to make bonds with each and every person you play with because guess what? They are on your team for 30+ minutes and you need to work together. Were you ever in school and the gym teacher assigned teams and you got paired with someone you don't like? Did you throw the game? Did you not play your hardest? Chances are you did still try to win, because you wanted too win. Chances are you didn't tell that person you didn't like they suck, that they're trash at the sport. Why? That's a hard question to ask and answer. Why? I can guess possibly because you had mutual respect for that person while playing the game. You all had one objective, too win, so you didn't flame your team for that reason. This carries over into League of Legends. Ultimately, you deserved your account ban. I deserved my account ban. That's something you have to accept. We fucked up, we need to pay for our consequences. If they unbanned us what message would that be sending not only me and you, but other players? That we can be toxic and still get what we want? Unfortunately life doesn't work that way and nor does League of Legends. Think of League as your parents and your teams as your siblings. Argue with your siblings too much you get a time out, don't stop arguing with your siblings you get a spanking. We both got spankings from Papa Riot. Accept it, Learn from it. Move on. summoner 4 summoner 1

Lapie ~ A reformed League of Legends player.

ROX PrimeDec 27, 20171 votes

Lol first i agree with op. Toxic our not what he said did not brake sc, unless caling someone a retard one time is berating. Second dude riots sick is way to far down your throat, how u even breathing? If my bot lane is 0/4 no amount of moral boost is gonna change the gold/item diff, your argument is legit infentile and completely ignores the mechanics of the game itself. You also admitted you got permad so you cannot criticize op in anyway because you made the exact same mistake( i say mistake in context getting banned in lol is not a mistake high elo has the most Toxic players its human nature ) And that parent analogy was so bad. Its flaud cause thats not how Riot operate. The report system is literally who told first and has friend to tell with him and if your parents spanked you for simple arguments i guess i can see why so many Americans are cry babys that can't handle words on a screen.

Coopa123Sep 17, 20171 votes

This match ended up me literally having to defend myself from my trolly ass teammates because i mentioned i had come off a two week ban and one of the (what im assuming is a troll) kept askign for reports on me for not ganking.

Lol. If you don't say anything nobody is gonna ask for reports. If you don't retaliate, there is no reason for you to get reported and punished.

If you had muted them the moment they started being negative you would still be able to play on this account. You fked up. Now deal with the consequences

After i explained 100 times

100 things you did wrong. Mute -> problem solved.

EskTheOgre: gg im just gonna mute everyone before i get salty as fuck

Should have listened to your own advice.

EskTheOgre: meh enjoy the mute / ban

Justice served

EskTheOgreSep 18, 20171 votes

In a world full of mature adults maybe, People arn't remotely mature in this game and they play accordingly. I barely talked and muted them most of the match. A very arrogant view and hopefully you'll go through something similar.

Coopa123Sep 18, 20171 votes

I already did. I was banned for 14 days 4 years ago. Since then not a single punishment.

People arn't remotely mature in this game and they play accordingly

That's why Riot implemented a system where the mature people are able to report and remove people like you. Working as intended

EskTheOgreSep 28, 20171 votes

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HalcyonDwellerSep 28, 20172 votes

I beg to differ. I've seen plenty of mature players.

You probably don't see this because you frequently antagonize your teammates and contribute to toxic situations.

If you want others to be less toxic you would do well to be less toxic yourself. If you aren't willing to do it for them then why should they bother doing it for you?

PsyrikSep 17, 20171 votes

constantly calling people retards and morons. not toxic? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

you should just mute all and move on. Penalty was deserved

EskTheOgreSep 18, 20171 votes

thier is one comment on both. how is it constant? also since you cant see the my teams chat you cant see the numerous insults and trolling that was directed at me as an employee could.

PsyrikSep 19, 20171 votes

Riot will ban people for fighting fire with fire. dont be toxic. period. you should have just muted like you said you would and walked away from the chat

XidphelSep 17, 20171 votes

You were punished for your constant negativity. As you posted, your previous punishment was a 14 day ban.

EskTheOgreSep 18, 20171 votes

also why ban in the first place for this? thier is a mute for others as well and they have the ability to mute chats . So why not make perma mutes a thing?

ChuShoeOct 6, 20171 votes

"RIOT UNFAIRLY BANNED ME, JUST LOOK AT HOW I CALLED THESE PEOPLE MENTALLY RETARDED AND MORONS FOR NOT BEING NICE TO ME, I EVEN MUTED AND THEN UNMUTED BECAUSE I OBVIOUSLY NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SAYING ABOUT ME"

or so the story goes.

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