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Why is getting banned so easy now?

Napöra·3/31/2018, 8:44:33 PM·4 votes·2,202 views

So I started playing on this account about a month ago, and I am already on a 14-day suspension. I am just so confused on why riot bans people so easily for such a little offense. Give us a tool to disable the chat box or something because just a small argument without even a curse word being said can get you a ban or chat restriction. LCS pros say worse stuff on stream and on stage but yet they can represent the esport, their team brand, and riot games? Toxic is such a vague term, same as the word bullying, and I feel as if the report system works off of quantity over quality. There are people out there that ruin games on purpose but the system can't detect them running it down mid, but it can detect a small heated discussion in chat. I am in no way a "toxic" person, everyone has arguments, everyone has bad games, everyone has bad days. I have been playing video games all my life as have most of you guys and league is the only game where my personality is questioned. Why have I never been banned, muted, chat restricted or warned in any other game? Two small arguments out of 146 games shouldn't mean anything, that's 1.5% of my games where I have an argument that is considered "toxic" in riot's eyes... I miss the days in gaming where the stress of being "toxic" didn't exist... I enjoy playing league of legends, I enjoy buying skins because I'm a cosmetic junkie, but if riot keeps the crazy bans up, I can't see their numbers player and skin wise increasing.

all you forums junkies can now comment; GG n00b don't be toxic next time you were banned for toxicity, deal with it all bans are deserved /mute all

25 Comments

Umbral Regent3/31/2018, 9:05:07 PM7 votes

First of all, I don't think streamers represent Riot Games or the E-Sport. Streamers represent themselves first and foremost, and what they say in their streams (not in their League of Legends matches, mind) is not within the jurisdiction of Riot Games.

They can yell, gripe, whine, bitch, and moan all they like on stream, but if they do so in League, and if they're reported for it, they'll get punished for it.

Moving on, you say you got punished for a "small argument" - it is possible, sure, because an argument is still an argument, and it detracts from the game, but I'm wholly disinclined to believe you since you didn't provide your chat logs from the gate. Without your chat logs, we can only take your word for your punishment, and we tend to try to avoid doing that.

Toxicity, I'd agree, is a mildly vague term. I personally use "toxic" to refer to players who go out of their way to be assholes to others. Toxicity and rule-breaking go hand-in-hand, but one can break the rules without being toxic.

Bullying, though, is not a vague term. Bullying is harassment, plain and simple.

...and I feel as if the report system works off of quantity over quality.

It doesn't. There's no focus on quantity in the IFS. Any report past the first is disregarded, and there's no other signs that any quantity is taken into consideration beyond number of recent negative games (in the case of lighter chat-related punishments).

...but if riot keeps the crazy bans up, I can't see their numbers player and skin wise increasing.

You probably can't see it because you're looking at it from a small scale perspective. There's millions upon millions of people playing League of Legends, and the playerbase is fairly likely to keep increasing, as are their sales.

If you want to call the ban crazy, provide proof that it's crazy. Show us your chat logs, and also, tell us if you've had previous punishments (like a 25-game chat restriction).

Oh, and, one last thing...

all you forums junkies can now comment; GG n00b don't be toxic next time you were banned for toxicity, deal with it all bans are deserved /mute all

Are you here to discuss Riot's punishment system, or are you here to try and make yourself a forum pariah? Because, you're not going to get much from a discussion if you're going to make sweeping generalizations to insult the boards.

MagicFlyingLlama3/31/2018, 9:15:11 PM5 votes

I dont know about "easy", maybe if one is rude and immature.

Most players never get a single restriction, and a very small percentage get a chat restriction.

Getting to a ban before 30 means someone is completely without control or ignorant of social norms.

ohn0se3/31/2018, 9:50:59 PM5 votes

Their system is absolute shit and they refuse to own up to it. They can't program an algorithm to detect feeders and/or trolls. All they have the intellect to do is "if (chat)=="[list key ban words here] then ban." It's beyond disgusting that they get away with this while not at all programming anything to detect actual trolls. Players will grief you here on the boards and downvote your complaints, but actual players understand and relate to the real issues.

Dolyna3/31/2018, 10:53:28 PM4 votes

Frankly, I've been amazed that Riot is so strict about chat. This is a PvP game. Any competitive online game will inspire toxic behavior. As it is, Riot will punish even somewhat negative chat if it's repeated often enough. Riot gives an automatic two week suspension for use of hate speech or telling people to commit self harm, which is fine, but a lot of people say things like that as a matter of routine, without thinking about it. Once they're corrected with the suspension, any offense no matter how small will earn a permaban, which seems excessively harsh to me. It's a quick one-two combination that can catch many players by surprise.

On the other hand, I very much enjoy the reduced amount of toxic chat. I never speak negatively in chat myself, so all is good.

BroLane4/1/2018, 1:37:06 AM3 votes

Post your logs, or your argument has no validity.

YerroFever4/1/2018, 12:23:06 AM2 votes

but it's actually really easy to not get punished...

Napöra3/31/2018, 11:18:36 PM1 votes

I feel as if people report because they CAN not because they were offended or harmed in any way. We give people a little bit of power and shit hits the fan.

Lleajy3/31/2018, 10:59:53 PM1 votes

What do you get from chatting with random kid A ?