Defending yourself is bad?

ThePissGremlin··1 votes·979 views

In almost all games that I am in I have noticed one that happens in all the losing games. One or two people decide to blame everyone else. This can be a problem mostly for if you are jungle or support. This is because when in doubt everyone blames the jungler or the support. Now the worst part about it is when the players decide to bitch at someone on the team they are considered to be in the right, which is bullshit. But it gets better. When whoever is getting blamed decides to try and speak up for themselves it usually involves telling the person who's blaming them what they are doing wrong, then what happens is that the person who defends themselves is considered toxic. I have had many games where someone tries to defend themselves then the person who blames them goes to all chat and typically say "report -insert name here" for being toxic even though they are only trying to defend themselves from people not being able to recognize their own mistakes or that its not one player fault. Then at the end of the game who gets reported? The person defending themselves. Even if the person is actually doing well or giving constructive criticism they are reported. Now the worst thing is that the automated banning system tends to end up temp-banning or giving chat restrict to the players that are getting reported leading them to get angry at the and may cause them to then take out their anger on other players by say blaming them for everything for maybe only doing one thing wrong and starting the loop all over again.

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Void Nargacuga5 votes

It all depends on how they "defend" themselves. If they are toxic in any way back at them then yes it is punishable.

ThePissGremlin1 votes

There are many players like that but those players deserve to be banned, but this post is more for the players who do get reported when they are not being toxic back to the accuser. I am in Bronze so I see a lot of crap being slung back and forth and chat and I have seen many players getting chat restrict for simply defending themselves without saying stuff like "You're go fuck yourself and die in a hole" but instead saying stuff like "cait if you had been botlane you could have had a turret instead of just backing" and more constructive stuff like that (that last quote I made up didn't see it in game but I have seen people say stuff like that). I hope this explains that.

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Ah it really does, thanks for explaining. Those would be considered false reports and they hold no value since nothing you did was punishable in that match. False reports get thrown out and don't count towards any sort of punishment. No need to worry if you have done nothing wrong.

UmJtuVyqrg2 votes

They do not get chat restrictions without breaking the rules, period.

ThePissGremlin1 votes

But the way that the automated system works is that if you get enough reports for being say toxic then it will override and will just give them a chat-restrict usually.

ThePissGremlin1 votes

that's the way that I see most situations turn out

UmJtuVyqrg1 votes

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that's the way that I see most situations turn out

You can only know for sure if it was you or you were there. If you or a friend get a chat restriction due to a false report, it will be lifted with a ticket as this restriction would be a mistake.

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

Not how it works at all mate

ThePissGremlin1 votes

Maybe not all the time but it happens enough for it to be a problem

UmJtuVyqrg1 votes

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But the way that the automated system works is that if you get enough reports for being say toxic then it will override and will just give them a chat-restrict usually.

I don't think you'd get enough reports if you aren't being some what toxic. Basically put, there aren't enough people out there flaming you the entire match while you say nothing in return, that turn around and false report you at the end even though you said nothing, to get you chat restricted.

Barkhoof4 votes

You should not be nor will you be punished by giving advice in a calm manner as above. If you include insults, if you rag on them, if you drag stuff out and make the game unpleasant, people will report you (and it's likely you'll be punished).

I would go out on a limb and say that no one has been singled out for giving a statement such as "cait if you had been botlane you could have had a turret instead of just backing".

ThePissGremlin1 votes

The problem is this is bronze so its like 10 year old kids who think that they do everything perfectly, so then when they get told that they could have done something better in any tone calm or angry they will lash out. They also think they are only being dragged down by their own teammates. And it may not be many people reporting someone it may just be the person accusing the other person but many of these reports can add up. Not all people mare like this but when people get reported for stuff like it is usually for this reason.

Barkhoof5 votes

No. If you act with civility, you will not be punished. You can be reported...anyone can sue you. But the powers that be throw it out when there's no case to be brought. The problem comes when someone says "MF, why are you being such an idiot! Gosh, you're trash". I realize it's tough but you cannot, nor should not, hit "enter" when you type things like that.

If someone argues with you and you know you're right, just say "I can explain post-game if you want. Right now, let's just farm up and play conservative". It's all about being calm in the midst of frustration.

UmJtuVyqrg4 votes

I'm to understand that it's not automated and if you did defend yourself without being toxic and get reported it will not count. However if you fight toxicity with toxicity then you do get punished.

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

It is automated, but the system is damn good at doing its job of weeding out false reports.

FrankerX2 votes

its not bad its stupid. if you have to defend yourself on the internet, against a random person, who knows nothing about, you have way bigger problems lol

TruckFump20161 votes

The point is to not swear or use 'flagged' words

ThePissGremlin1 votes

Sry man but this post is talking about the players who get chat restricted or temp-banned for not using toxicity in the words.

TruckFump20162 votes

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Sry man but this post is talking about the players who get chat restricted or temp-banned for not using toxicity in the words.

Doubt you will get an actual ban.

Chat restrict, maybe.

Not the end of the world.

You can say nothing...and let people talk shit. I never do though I always say something I don't let that shit slide.

ThePissGremlin1 votes

That what most people do in league though they "don't let that shit slide" which makes the accuser lash out more

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

The way you think about it. Yes.

You aren't being attacked. Some idiot is using words to make you feel bad. Mute and report them.

Hippolyta1 votes

Calling other idiots its bannable offence ..if u do that on game you get reported and punished .. i frendly advice you dont use those words on forums:P

My SIgnature If you fall in the trap of troll make a new acount and keep it roll next time i know you will be more smart but now covers you the trolling fart:)

ReadyxPlayerxOne1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

A troll is a troll of course of course and no one can reason with a troll of course unless that troll of course of course is the famous... nevermind, no trolls can be reasoned with

Eye of Hatred1 votes

FUCKING REPORT OP, UNSKILLED. THANKS

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