Skip to content

Stop chatbanning me Riot, I am only defending myself from Trollers!!!!!

Almighty SnowFox··2 votes·947 views

TITEL!!!..

Angry!!!!

18 Comments

Shukr4n10 votes

Retaliation is punishable.

Anyway be quiet. Probably next time it wont be a chatban, but a 14days ban.

U see riot listen to u

Almighty SnowFox1 votes

First one was 10...this one is 25...I dont care about not talking..but I care about my honor...I was honor 3 last time...now I am zero AFTER THESE 25 games...which is A LOT!

Normally I say BUY MR or stuff like that..but not being able to talk is so much BS...I don;t like it at all!

RallerenP7 votes

Oh then good news: The next punishment won't be a chat-ban.

Bad news: It'll be a 14-day ban from playing.

After that it's a permaban.


If someone is trolling, simply mute and play to the best of your ability. After the game report them. Flaming them will only encourage them to troll you harder.

Lux OP2 votes

{quoted}

Oh then good news: The next punishment won't be a chat-ban.

Bad news: It'll be a 14-day ban from playing.

After that it's a permaban.


If someone is trolling, simply mute and play to the best of your ability. After the game report them. Flaming them will only encourage them to troll you harder.

Yes, everyone knows this is what you're "supposed" to do, it's just a bullshit system. No other competitive online game forces people to

  1. stay in a game for 30+ minutes with a troll on the team or trigger a leave/ban
  2. stay "positive" while said troll wastes a half hour + of their time with the knowledge that the four other players are totally eligible to be punished up to and including a perma while the troll gets away with it
  3. play with the chat system in the first place since it's nothing but a breeding ground of toxicity and a setting to hide it would not negatively affect the game, especially since there is Discord and (unlike old League) several types of pings that work better than chat for MIAs, as well as a working timer system (which were the ONLY things that chat was ever used for gameplay-wise, beta until whenever they implemented those features)

Riot's system is bad and ranked queue is actually getting worse because the real players keep getting banned and the trolls are still doing what they do without punishment. System should be implemented where if you get 10 teammate reports in ranked in a 24h period you get a 24h ban from ranked, especially in Silver and Bronze where the trolling is actually trolling and not "trolling" (i.e. sucking for a game because you autofilled or whatever).

Also, I don't know when the last time a Rioter actually played a game under level 30, but it's absolutely packed with pub-stomping smurfs very likely because of their ban system. The players who take Ranked seriously don't belong in pre-30, a punishment system that forces them to do that in a game they obviously are very passionate about is bad for those players and bad for new players who get utterly stomped. These supposed solutions to toxicity are just condensing the trolls in Silver/Bronze and making it impossible for new players to enjoy PVP with people of their own skill level since the perpetually angry Yasuo or Yi main are going to have absolutely no problem going 40/0/0 against teams with a couple of those.

Do the 10 report/24h Ranked queue ban, make disabling chat completely an option, permarestrict the chat of toxic players or issue straight-up chat bans instead of sending them down to play with new players, and suddenly the game is at least half as toxic. The current setup is inexcusably bad.

Imperial Pandaa4 votes

.1. Other games do. One example being CS:GO competitive. If the vote kick fails you are stuck with them. Abandoning the match will put you on a cool down/ ban from the mode.

.2. Again CS Go comp if the vote fails. Sure you can team kill them but that can get you punished too. Even then they can grief by givinf positions away.

.3. This one isn't clear. Other games have chat and it isn't fantastic either. Even those with voice comms built in.

X report from teammates in 24 hour is a horrible idea because you'll end up with people rallying for reports and people using it as a tool to try and control pick/bans. It might reduce the number of games someone plays in a day though because even legitimate players could get ranked ban.

Lux OP1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hqJM5hO3,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-09T12:50:54.370+0000)

.1. Other games do. One example being CS:GO competitive. If the vote kick fails you are stuck with them. Abandoning the match will put you on a cool down/ ban from the mode.

.2. Again CS Go comp if the vote fails. Sure you can team kill them but that can get you punished too. Even then they can grief by givinf positions away.

.3. This one isn't clear. Other games have chat and it isn't fantastic either. Even those with voice comms built in.

X report from teammates in 24 hour is a horrible idea because you'll end up with people rallying for reports and people using it as a tool to try and control pick/bans. It might reduce the number of games someone plays in a day though because even legitimate players could get ranked ban.

I carried myself to MGE in CSGO a couple of years ago and the Silver tier absolutely had the same problems that Bronze and Silver (S1 is my highest rank) have in League of Legends. The great thing about CS:GO is that you aren't expected to be nice to these people. You can trash them if they're trolling and yes, sometimes it feels wonderful to tell someone off if they're ruining a ranked match... but unless one were to go seriously above and beyond typical gaming-flaming, they won't be penalized. If the troll doesn't want to hear it, or if you don't want to hear them, then it's as simple as using the mute function (which people do all the time).

I don't understand why we have to be nice to people who are actively working to ruin the game. Yeah, Silver was toxic as hell in GO, but once you hit GN1 and up, people were very friendly unless someone was being a drunk idiot on voicecomm, because it was understood that you made it past the guys who would buy rifles and run through suicide on Dust 2. But when climbing through Silver you didn't have to take any shit from people, either in the form of trolling or in the form of flaming. That's what makes League's system so much worse: people absolutely do have to take shit, and the trolls know it and try to bait people into flaming. Maybe they just like to get people in trouble or maybe they didn't roll the role they wanted to play, but it's an incredibly one-sided and unfair penalty system. It also encourages people to sabotage the game instead of just flaming each other and putting each other on mute (which is how a competitive online game should be moderated- i.e. not at all except in the most extreme cases).

On point 3: Take CSGO as an example of where you absolutely need voice comm in competitive play. There are no tools to indicate what is happening anywhere on the map (you can use the prefab Z/X/C comms but a headset is way better), whereas League has an excellent ping system that, while abusable in an annoying type of way, makes ingame chat absolutely pointless. I played League before timers and the ping system we have now and some typing was necessary to keep track of jungle timers, calling MIA, etc. Now they even have ward pings. There's literally no reason relevant to gameplay that makes chat necessary or better than third-party options like Discord, which is ideal for people who want to play competitively anyway since it lets them discuss picks and do a pre-game analysis while the game loads. In-game chat should be an option that is disabled by default and should not involve penalties at all because it's completely extra. I used to judge the occasional Tribunal case and I daresay the in-game chat is a feature that does more harm than good.

redniwediS5 votes

Self defense is taking action to prevent harm. Retaliation is attempting to harm another as they have harmed you.

You're not defending yourself.

Kei1434 votes

Stop chatbanning me Riot, I am only defending myself from counter attacking the Trollers!!!!!

fixed.

Almighty SnowFox2 votes

No....My adc Jhin went midlane because we had no midlane...so I was left alone with only a support item...which means I cannot hit minions or it will lose its gold effect...so I was pretty useless during that time...tried to get my souls (as Thresh) and my coins...but ofcourse I died waay tro many times and Jhin said I was trolling too...which I wan't....so at that point I sold my item and went for a better 1v2 item...BOOTS...so I could at least get away...which I couldnt because tristana can jump under my turret..kill me and jump away...

and Jhin got angry more and more....Trollers where still trolling and inting....and I was seen as a tilted inting Support who sold his supp item...so now I have 25 bans for talking whicjh is VERY annoying in ranked games without communication...and after this I have to start all over again to get my third honor...which is practically impossible with Riot banning my chat over and over again....

so again..thnx Riot for not letting me communicate with my team just because I was defending myself against a trolling team...who probably reported everyone and ruin the fun of this game!!!!!!!!!!

HalcyonDweller4 votes

I'm gonna let you in on a little secret about behavior. People who troll or flame are doing it because they want a reaction out of you. This attention is what is known as the "function" of the behavior, in psychological terms. In layman's terms that means it is the purpose of the behavior.

If you fulfill that purpose of the behavior, by giving them the acknowledgement that they want from you, then you are showing them that if they do it even more then they can get even more of a reaction out of you.

Trolls don't care about the words they say, or the actions they take. It's not about your honor to them, they couldn't care less how it is that they had to insult you, the only thing they care about is your reaction.

So here's the solution: Deny them that reaction. Mute or otherwise ignore them, and just report them after the match.

Also keep in mind that you don't even have to ask anybody else to help report them because it only takes your one report to flag the game for review. Any additional reports beyond the first won't actually do anything to increase the chances of a punishment being given out. Plus calling for reports would be like showing them that what they did bothered you, so it goes against everything we already covered anyways.

Zombie Gerbil3 votes

Oh, they will stop chat banning you, soon. They'll just ban you if you keep the same attitude up.

Scuffleboard3 votes

Trolls are trying to get a reaction. You're giving them what they want. Don't do that.

Lux OP1 votes

{quoted}

Trolls are trying to get a reaction. You're giving them what they want. Don't do that.

Trolls are making at least 1/4 of the games in ranked Silver and Bronze unplayable. Trolls deserve a reaction, from Riot, in the form of a system that punishes them instead of the players who are tired of having at least 25% of their time on League being wasted, can't keep up appearances, and lose their shit once in awhile. Is it right? Is it wrong? Who cares: it's a problem because of a very specific subset of players acting a very specific way that Riot has already indicated they can not track automatically. Time to figure out a system where the community can police it.

imperiorgamer1 votes

[deleted]

HalcyonDweller3 votes

All of what you've said here is incredibly silly. In real life there is actual danger and as such, many of us would actually advocate for a person to stand up for themselves.

But this isn't real life, this is a video game over the internet. There is no danger. And "defending yourself" only makes things worse because psychology (I can explain why if you care, but I'm guessing you don't care).

Negativity2 votes

{quoted}

Don't listen to the fucking complete morons typing. If they got bullied in real life they would cry and let the bully, bully them. They are pussies. People are soft today and if you defend yourself you get in trouble. Standing up for yourself is a good thing. Don't be a pussy stand up for yourself unlike the people commenting.

Easy to talk tough thru ur screen bro

Bet you’re gonna tell me “I’d kick ur butt IRL” Pls make my day

Arammus1 votes

why would you defend yourself against cars? yea a troller is a car. its called "troll" or "trolls".

More from Player Behavior

More by Almighty SnowFox