People throwing ranked games because their champ was banned?

Ashes Of Ashala·Mar 16, 2016·27 votes·3,095 views

Does riot not punish people who intentionally throw games as hard as they should? And if they do punish them, do the reduce the punishment on the 4 poor souls that had to deal with him? Thankfully I haven't ran into it much this season, but I just had a game with a ~~Glorious~~ Wukong who was livid that Yi was banned. In pregame lobby he stated that this loss was on the person who banned Yi's head. So it was clear he was going to throw. Then he proceeded to say it was an accident all game that he said that... God maybe riot will take care of this. Instead of further turning people off of the game with the glorious community.

39 Comments

NotClarkolasMar 16, 20167 votes

Maybe you shouldn't ban the champ that he has as his pick intent next time

PoeticJumpshot Mar 16, 20163 votes

Seriously though. If the enemy bans my champ so be it. But when I don't get to play much and get mid lane maybe 2 or 3 games a week, it's pretty messed up to ban my intended champ. Great example of this: I get mid! (excited). The jungler asks if he can have mid. I explain this exact time constraint and lack of mid games to him. The Support then bans my mid which I had shown in pick intent the ENTIRE TIME. Claims he didn't see it. So i show another mid. The jungler bans him. Why the hell should I HAVE to play with these people? Sure enough as the game loads they have the same exact club name and are clearly a duo. I have zero remorse for not playing that game and I shouldn't have to be worried about getting punished because of something stupid like this.

LeblancsterMar 16, 20161 votes

get mid 2 or 3 games a week? Lol... dynamic que called, it wants its QQ back.

Kitty ClarissaMar 16, 20162 votes

thats why i never show my pick intent, they wont know what im playing at all + mid is the hardest role to get into .. hell i had 2-3 min ques for playing top/bot and i put supp as primary/secondary i get 2 sec ques . not my issue ill just play Sona if ranked and if normals i play anyone i want as supp. but general fact is there is reasons why people dont wanna supp and go mid to "carry" .

Spacesuit SpiffMar 16, 20165 votes

Ive seen threads where people complain about being wrongfully banned, and then a rioter comes in and smites them because they were doing exactly what you describe.

Ashes Of AshalaMar 16, 20162 votes

I just don't see how this guy hasn't had reports filed for this sort of thing. He plays 1 champion and lost his shit when it was banned. I doubt that it was a 1 time occurrence. Especially since Yi is a decently common ban.

Mama SorakaMar 16, 20165 votes

You don't know how many times this guy has done this, how many reports he's gotten or if he's had action taken against his account. Why are you assuming there is a problem, that action should be taken, and finally that action hasn't been taken? It seems to me instead of making all of these assumptions and then being upset about it, you would be best served by cooling off and doing something else for a while until you're ready to hit the grind again.

For real though, why assume the worst when you can just.. not?

Troll ArmadaMar 16, 20161 votes

There are several LCS players who climbed the ladder playing only 1 or 2 champs directly in contradiction to what Riot says is optimal.

Supreme Senpai69Mar 16, 20164 votes

I mean that's terrible and inexcusable but stop banning people's champions. I can't use pick intent anymore. First pick mid and they banned Annie. Like, why? Made me play LeBlanc. I suck at LeBlanc. Almost threw the game, but managed to get carried by a Skarner. Somehow.

DarkRitualMar 16, 20161 votes

If our last pick has an OP priority pick, I'll ban it still. Too risky to let it up to be grabbed before us.

Supreme Senpai69Mar 16, 20161 votes

I'll make an attempt at a trade with first pick but will otherwise ban it as well. That's the one exception

Serika ZeroMar 16, 20163 votes

because the automatic system can't detect throws properly executed look, if you ban my main, I'll stalk you ingame and try to steal all your farm. If you fight the enemy, I'll watch you die. If you don't fight, I'll just stalk.

anything else than a human analyzing the game will not be able to pick up the fact that I'm throwing on purpose. there's about 20mil players in this games across all regions together. Do you think "riot" has time to check manually all games?

Supreme Senpai69Mar 16, 20161 votes

No excuse for throwing. I'd agree but ruining it for three people is not worth ruining it for that one person. You'd deserve a ban slightly more than the one who banned the pick intent.

Serika ZeroMar 16, 20161 votes

You might be right, but the system doesn't agree with you :)

there are SO MANY WAYS to throw games. The above one is just one of them. Wana know more? ofc you do. Another one is to pick another role. Like say: you got support. Now you pick Draven and take all your ADCs farm haha Or, you got top, now you go mid and top, alternate between lanes, stealing farm, exp, etc.

ORRRRR you can just pick a hero you totally suck with. Lets say I'd go and pick Karthus mid. Huehue, the enemy mid laner is going to be like 30/0 by 10 minutes. Or I go ADC Vayne mechanics, tumble, condems to save enemies, etc.

You can play trundle and fuck your allies with ice pillars. Similar with Anivia. Lets not even talk about Tahm the troll lord. Just like what I'm doing is not a bannable offense. You banning my champion is also not a bannable offence. However, if you are a douchebag, I can tango ;) As for the other members, let me open my box of care. Hmm....... ITS EMPTY [slayer-jinx-wink]

Supreme Senpai69Mar 16, 20162 votes

I'm pretty sure everything you said is a bannabled offense, including banning a pick intent champ. The latter is just harder to prove because if you're last pick and want Yi i'd probably ban Yi anyway so the enemy doesnt get it. Its hard to tell the difference

Serika ZeroMar 16, 20161 votes

ok, so you are going to ban me for picking a champion I'm bad with? chances are that I'm still better with that than the entire bronze elo. As far as performance go, mine will be ~s5. So, if you going to ban me for being bad, you will also have to ban ~25-30% of your playerbase.

Next, stalking and taking CS. This is basically what an ADC does. You spend time with a team mate nearby and take the CS. Stalking without taking CS. This is basically what a support does.

Moving from one lane to another, and "taxing" is basically what players do when roaming. Constantly staying as 1v5 on a side lane in late game is what split pushers do.

Get my drill? Nothing of the above is a bannable offence as the system can't make a distinction between players really playing the game and people trolling on purpose. We don't even have a 1-2 week new champion release/rework ban from ranked as they do in LCS. Nothing stops people from picking a hero they got no clue about for the first time in their ranked game and going 0/10/0.

The system can't detect if you used that Trundle pillar to fuck up your team mates or not. The system can't detect if you used that Vayne condemn to save the enemy on purpose or you aimed for the wall and missed since you suck. and so on.

That's why, throwing games on purpose is easy. And I don't like assholes winning games. That's why, whenever I find one, I'll make sure they are going to lose <3 If I don't find one, I'll try my best to win. Oh btw, I've got a 60% win rate with this attitude towards the game.

My advice to avoid trolls is to respect each other, encourage each other, and don't rage, flame or use any behavior that will provoke your team mates (such as banning their heroes). Since, if you are an asshole, chances are. At least 1 person in your team is also an asshole that can make sure you won't win. You can win 5v5, when its hard you can win a 4v5. But you sure as hell can't win a 3v6

Supreme Senpai69Mar 16, 20161 votes

The system doesn't work like that. It's purely based on % of games reported and nothing else. If you do nothing wrong but are reported a lot you'll get flagged. Now, if you do things wrong, you're probably going to be reported. As those accumulate it'll get flagged. That's what the notes are for under the report section. They can say exactly what happened. Having a 60% winrate doesn't excuse what you're doing and it doesn't mean anything when only five games have been played that count to that 60%.

Serika ZeroMar 16, 20161 votes

Having a 60% win rate indicated that at worse I troll 4 out of 10 games. And that I have a 100% win ratio in games I don't troll. There's nobody with 100% win ratio. So, you could say I troll 3 or 2 out of 10. Also, nobody reads those "report section", its placebo. To make you feel good when you report someone.

Also, if you get "flagged" and do nothing wrong, by the system's mind. You will not get banned or restricted. But, if you say otherwise, go with it, whatever makes you feel good man.

NotClarkolasMar 16, 20161 votes

Exactly. Anytime anyone wants they can just give up and ...

A) push side lane, recall, push new side lane, recall, repeat.

B) follow the jungler around and steal all of his shit, spam laugh when he gets into a fight and dies, steal lane minions from other lanes, repeat.

And rito will never do anythign to punish these toxic mfers

Julius EvolaMar 16, 20162 votes

They tribunal system caters to whiny little bitches. Millennials who will AFK in fountain, throw games, just because they didn't get exactly what they wanted, or their teammates don't play the game the way they like, or someone called them a penis. It's embarrassingly sad, but it's what you get when you cater to cancerous players, instead of competitive players. If you take away the ability to offset the blame of a loss and put it on tribunal, you give players an excuse not to focus on the game, and instead to protect their fragile egos by playing passively, and AFKing in the fountain because at the end of the day, they can just cry to riot for not getting their way.

The player behaviour mirrors the mechanics you put in the game. (Riot PM me, I am always available, at a cost)

Troll ArmadaMar 16, 20164 votes

plot twist: there is no tribunal system.

ZtokaMar 16, 20162 votes

I saw the tool tip last night when loading, something to the extent of make your voice heard with the Tribunal system. Made me lol as it hasn't existed for a good 2 years. Coming soon though.. Really..

BBBWWWEEERRRPPPMar 17, 20163 votes

Just a robot filtering profanity and auto punishing you. Then for the 14 day ban, it's usually a human doing a case by case review. I think?

NidelkhaMar 16, 20162 votes

I get chat restricted and 14 day bans for talking mad shit to enemies when i kill them or straight up outplay them. But they don't ban people running down mid and feeding 0/20 then afk. Riot has no priorities!

BBBWWWEEERRRPPPMar 16, 20162 votes

Just got a 14 day ban for being salty to a quinn I destroyed in lane. Then this bitch resorted to harassing me all game, calling me a silver noob when his team carried his kda of 4/11.

Hello I am BirdMar 16, 20164 votes

I mean, to be fair, even if they are hostile to you, it's kinda rude to be salty to someone you already beat in lane.

Losing lane as Quinn is one of the most stressful experiences because there tends to not be much you can do to get ahead again.

IqqiMar 16, 20162 votes

I am going to assume they were not serious and were pointing out that it does not matter **why ** you broke a rule, just that you did.

Riot is not here to listen to people make their arguments on a case by case basis or create the scenario in which the violation occurred. Just like the real world. Life doesn't care. You broke the law. The circumstances don't matter. But that's a lesson you learn after you move out of your parents basement. Or its a lesson you learned which moved you back :)

BBBWWWEEERRRPPPMar 17, 20161 votes

Of course you're right. I just had a rough day and had so much fun that game. I guess moving the chat box to the bottom of the screen is my best bet. Don't have to type, and it's not like communication is so important in ranked kappa.

Troll ArmadaMar 16, 20161 votes

you got banned because you were an arrogant little snot

DarthSpectrumMar 16, 20162 votes

Are you high Gold/low Plat as well? I just ran into an extremely similar situation earlier. Master Yi was banned so a player picked Elise. He proceeded to tower dive every lane at level 1 and went 3/11. He got 3 kills because our team still tried to save him.

I checked that player's match history. Almost all his losses happens in streaks. It seems he just picks a day he wants to troll people.

SoMNiaMar 16, 20162 votes

Unless they are last pick and you can't trade, don't ban your teammate's pick intent. People who ban a teammate's pick intent and people who throw games deserve each other. But the rest don't deserve to deal with that crap.

AeróMar 17, 20162 votes

If I'm first pick and one of my teammates ban the champion that i said i wanted to play, then im gonne fk up their ranked game :^). jk but plz dont be a jerk and ban ure own team's wanted champs or comfort picks

KapppaccinoMar 17, 20161 votes

unless its trashsuo. if ur teammates want trashsuo u ban that shit. saves u elo

runedaraMar 17, 20162 votes

I just dodge the match if it's my team. My own team banned Soraka 4 times in a row on me 2 times I would have first picked. Very frustrating when trying to learn a champ.

Hentai LewdsMar 16, 20161 votes

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LeblancsterMar 16, 20161 votes

You kids totally deserved it by banning Yi. There are so many kids in this game who are actually bronze players, but they get to plat and diamond by playing Yi only. He really is so broken that you don't even need teammates to win the game. Easy elo. Nice loss.

BBBWWWEEERRRPPPMar 17, 20162 votes

That bronze mentality is why I lose so many games with a yi in my team. Every yi in a nutshell : If I get sated by afk farming, I can carry my noob team gg ez.

No it doesn't work like that. You put your team further behind by never ganking and then cussing them out when they end up being ganked by the opposing jungler.

LITTLE TlMOMar 16, 20161 votes

if you ban my champ you better believe you are going to suffer for it

Yummy PattyMar 17, 20161 votes

Or maybe you need to grow up and accept that people tilt easily. "Does riot not punish people who intentionally throw games as hard as they should?" Yes Riot does, as long as it is INTENTIONALLY. Everyone can has a bad day and a bad game. Maybe the wukong is a girl and was on period? Besides, you knew yi was probably one of their best champions and it was banned. Then you should've be prepared for the player's potential bad performance.

In short, your question seems rather pointless because Riot does put alot of effort into punishing negative behavior. Perhaps next time instead of being mean to the wukong, just move on to next game and keeping in mind that shit happens.