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no justice in league

Welfare OP··0 votes·1,067 views

I got banned for 14 days for being toxic. Heres what happened, because i do understand that i shouldn't have said half the things i did, but i also shouldn't have been banned.

Me and my friend duo a lot. So we get in lobby and im second pick. my friend is an ADC, im his supp. i pick him kalista, then lock. the pick below me gets talon. i then ask my friend in chat to grab me Alistair. the 3rd pick says we cant do this, and that if he would've known i was not going to adc, he would have taken it. But i had pick but he said he was going bot anyways. So we end up losing the game and i got banned for telling the kid off. Yes, talking trash is not the right thing to do, but now i cant play the game i love and spend money on while a guy who clearly trolled and was in the wrong gets to continue on, free from worry. I guess the only reason im putting this on here is because im pissed as hell. Trolls ruin this game and make it difficult to climb out of "elo hell". I wish riot would make more of an effort to look at what happens in game instead of just in the chat. But hey, who cares what i think. Everyone will keep playing league, and trolls will keep trolling. Riot doesn't care. They just wanna keep making all of that precious money. God bless and pray for my salt to go away boys.

29 Comments

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

Are you saying you were trying to circumvent pick order by swapping with your friend? If someone ahead of your duo partner wants the same role, then you have no right to pick for him and swap to ensure you both get your roles regardless of pick order.

Welfare OP1 votes

i had pick above him and picked and adc for my friend. The pick below me did not like that he was not getting adc but said nothing and locked talon mid. when i told my friend to grab me ali, he said he was coming bot as well. So i did not go out of pick order at all. i had my pick and used it to give my friend adc, while i took my friends 4th pick to get supp. there is not rule breaking there, and if they have a trade system in place, why not use it.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

No, the trading system does not give you the right to ignore pick order.

Welfare OP1 votes

Uh sir I had pick. I could chose an add if I wanted, which I did. So I broke no rule. Am I wrong? How so?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

You can chose whatever you want. But you didn't chose what you wanted you were choosing what your friend with a lower priority wanted.

disregardable1 votes

Dude, that's ridiculous. The guy can pick whatever he wants. If he'd just told his duo what to pick in the friend chat, no one would have even found out. Third pick would've had every right to take support from fourth pick, but not to cry that somehow he got his pick stolen. Second pick took ADC and traded, that's all.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Sneaking it doesn't justify ignoring pick priority... Riot officially supports pick order in Draft mode. There is no question about it; using trades to steal a role from someone who had priority is a reportable offense.

no one would have even found out

They would have found out that they ignored pick order the second he swapped...

disregardable1 votes

It's not stealing. O.o It's using YOUR pick order how you want to.

Unless you want to link to the official Riot post that said trading in draft is stealing.

Linthe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Very Toxic Jinx,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hcymAitM,comment-id=000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2015-11-09T23:10:32.059+0000)

It's not stealing. O.o It's using YOUR pick order how you want to.

Unless you want to link to the official Riot post that said trading in draft is stealing.

100% irrelevant because that ISNT why he got banned.

disregardable1 votes

They aren't called discussions for nothing, Linthe. The OP is just the starting place. It does relate to the original post tangentially. I already responded directly to the OP, and this warranted a response too. :P

Don't need to backseat mod, bae. (I say as someone that makes a habit to post a cease and desist response in every harassment thread).

disregardable3 votes

The dude can play whatever he wanted, man. All you had to do was dodge, mute him, or play around him. Harassment is never justified, and you're responsible for your own actions. Maybe not what you want to hear, but it's the truth.

Welfare OP1 votes

so i have to take and L for someone trolling? so you are saying trolling is okay and its up to me to be like thanks man, didnt want this one anyway. Thats not very good for the game, is it?

disregardable2 votes

Harassing your teammate isn't good for the game, either. You basically ruined the game for your entire team because of one guy. Plus, it does need to be mentioned that you're never banned for only one game. You're banned when you've been repeatedly reported, and you get the notification within 15 minutes of the game that's the final straw. The goal of the ban is to warn you that what you're doing isn't acceptable in the community. I don't know what's going to happen to that guy, and honestly, it shouldn't matter to you. If this hadn't been the game that tipped it, you'd probably forget him a week from now. That guy is completely irrelevant, and you need to focus on making the right choices in game for yourself.

Or maybe think about leaving League altogether for a game that pisses you off less. I did that for a couple weeks, was a great experience.

TeemoJenkins2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Welfare OP,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hcymAitM,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-11-09T22:50:18.604+0000)

so i have to take and L for someone trolling? so you are saying trolling is okay and its up to me to be like thanks man, didnt want this one anyway. Thats not very good for the game, is it?

I'm sure the other two people on your team that had to put up with you and your buddy getting into a shouting match with Talon was a great experience for them.... but it's all about you, Right?

Welfare OP1 votes

For sure man. I'm gonna finish eating this pizza then fap. Thanks for reading my story though

Linthe2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Welfare OP,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hcymAitM,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-11-09T22:40:15.529+0000)

I got banned for 14 days for being toxic. Heres what happened, because i do understand that i shouldn't have said half the things i did, but i also shouldn't have been banned.

Toxic = eventual ban. Not much else to say.

EvilDustMan2 votes

It sounds like you did a rather poor thing.

Next time, don't circumvent the pick order for your friend. Just because you are duo queue doesn't mean you immediately get bot lane. Say 'hey, I'm duoqueue, can we go bot'.

You shouldn't have done it, the third guy shouldn't have gotten so mad, you shouldn't have gotten mad back and ruined the game further.

Also, since you have a 14 day ban, you got 2 other punishments before that, so you've been steadily toxic for a while now. It wasn't this one game that got you banned, it was just the game to cement your punishment.

So while this may have been a bad situation, you've been toxic for a while now.

So when you come back, you mess up again and you are out entirely.

Welfare OP1 votes

So he can troll and that's okay? Please, explain your logic. I'm all ears man ;)

Jubbinaut3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Welfare OP,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hcymAitM,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2015-11-09T22:58:38.970+0000)

So he can troll and that's okay? Please, explain your logic. I'm all ears man ;)

I'm confused. Where did he say that it was okay for the other guy to troll?

In fact, it reads to me like he explicitly said the other guy shouldn't have acted the way he did.

But I think it's pretty important to recognize that the other guy's actions have nothing to do with your punishment. Regardless of whether his behavior was acceptable or not, your response to him wasn't.

EvilDustMan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Welfare OP,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hcymAitM,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2015-11-09T22:58:38.970+0000)

So he can troll and that's okay? Please, explain your logic. I'm all ears man ;)

Did I say that? I said he shouldn't have either. Don't be obtuse because your toxicity is catching up to you.

Archon X1 votes

did you communicate to the team that you wanted to duo bot prior to picking?

Welfare OP1 votes

yep

TeemoJenkins1 votes

Sick to damn death of these "WOE IS ME, UNJUST BAN" threads. I'd rather when people come here to ask for community appeal that they post their chat logs like they used to so the entire board can see the ugly truth - you're toxic. You don't get a two week insta-suspension, this was an escalated punishment and you know it.

Welfare OP1 votes

Why read it if you're sick of these? Hey buddy, just don't read it? Wow problem solved. Your welcome.

TeemoJenkins2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Welfare OP,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hcymAitM,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2015-11-09T23:04:53.147+0000)

Why read it if you're sick of these? Hey buddy, just don't read it? Wow problem solved. Your welcome.

Wow, don't be toxic won't be suspended, problem solved - You're welcome

Ego Sum Redemit1 votes

I actually read these posts solely to see the OP get shredded for complaining about getting rightly banned lol

These kinds of comments are just icing on that cake. Upvote TeemoJenkins, and by god that name is hilarious.

AraMoOse1 votes

I don't understand, you recognize your wrongs, but don't think you should be punished for them? Please give details. Especially given that the last few sentences of your post seems to be a call for Riot to be MORE strict.

             I am sympathetic to you in the following way : I can understand that this guy was being a moron and this was getting on your nerves. We are all aware people can be morons, particularly when they think they are anonymous and MOST PARTICULARLY in stressful situations such as video games. 

             But here is what I want you to consider. The way to punish this guy ISN'T to let him drag you down with him. It is NOT to yourself commit actions which you recognize yourself are reprehensible. If that is what you choose to do, the best you can hope for is a draw (both of you get punished). The ONLY way you can win against this guy is by 1. Not letting him stop you from having fun that game 2. Reporting his behavior after the game.

        As much as I understand the impulse to just tell someone they're  a moron, you have to remember that 
                     a. You're putting yourself in a position where if someone reports you, you're in trouble
                     b. He either doesn't give a shit, or wouldn't understand what you're trying to say anyways.

Here are a few of the things that I like to say when I meet one of "those" players: "What a nice fellow" "What a strange fellow" (this is for feeders) "I'm sure deep down you're really very nice" "I wonder what this button does""Hey I haven't heard from (insert name) in a while" "I've got some social tips for you after the game if you're interested"

     Then at the end of course, I report them and I move on to the next game, where in all likelihood everyone will be top notch gentlemen. Works every time.
I is NIMBUS1 votes

you deserved it plus everyone of your comments show that you are a toxic person gl with league prob gona get that perma ban D

AJStarhiker1 votes

Picking to trade wasn't the problem. Arranging picks in friend chat only goes so far, since you have to consider bans and what the opposing team picks.

The OP wanted to make sure his buddy got his pick. Ok. But I suspect even if he hadn't asked, the other guy would have started complaining as soon as the trade started. Because he didn't get what he wanted.

The problem, for the OP, came when he allowed himself to get baited into arguing.

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