Help, my friends are unjustifiably banned when we tried to do a strategy that includes inting

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They considered it because the youtuber did it, and they didn't get banned.

This is the IFS's fault for being inconsistent.

No, he is right. We possibly ruined the game for the enemy team and that was our fault. The argument comes when you consider what if we had won the game and our strategy succeeded. If we had told the enemy team that our inting was part of the strategy from the start, it is technically not ruining their gameplay as it was part of our strategy and it worked out. However it did not work out and now my friends are punished. All 5 of us could not foresee this happening as we all thought it would be okay since we were all premade 5s and it was just a normal game.

This is the IFS's fault for being inconsistent.

Have you considered that it may be more an error on the part of the players instead of the system? I've heard that those in the higher tiers (Diamond+) are few enough in number that most everyone knows each other, and few of them bother to report one another. It stands to reason that they might not have even gotten reported, if they haven't been punished for it.

Yes. As long as the team agrees on something, they should be allowed to do it (does not include 3rd party "solutions" like scripts though).

And on individual level, if someone plays unconventionally stuff like ap Jhin in jungle, they shouldn't be punished unless they intentionally want to help enemy team and/or hinder their own team's success.

Actually, I think Riot should lift the ban, possibly while creating a rules exception to disallow this in the future.

Fair enough. They did learn their lesson, after all, but I still personally err on the side of letting them sit it out to really let it sink.

We're under no obligation to use strategies that are "fun" for our opponents to play against.

I feel this may be a miswording on my part; when I say "ruin the game" in this case, I'm moreover referring to the competitive integrity of it. It should be five players versus five players - each side helping their respective team, and not the other. You may've seen me take the same stance in a previous thread, but the gist of it is this;

If someone employs a strategy or does something that makes the game objectively less fair between teams (opening lanes, calling out team positions, strategies involving intentionally feeding, etc.) - I feel that it should unequivocally be punished.

Though, this also comes with something of a caveat - call it a double-standard if you wish - but there are some tactics I would consider valid that do tip some of the power balance between teams. Targeted suppression being an example (I.E, denying enemy Junglers farm, tunnelling on Kindred's Wolf marks, or camping enemy players to give them a harder time of coming online)

But the distinction lies in the fact that those latter examples still have some way for the enemy to play around it. Junglers can counterjungle as well or tax lanes after ganks, Kindred can try to get help skrimishing around their marks or focus on Champion marks, and players knowing they're being camped can play more defensively, get help, or roam to mitigate the disadvantage.

Those prior examples have no real counterplay value or interaction against - you can't have fun adapting to an open lane, because it's just free-pushing. Calling out team positions - it's no fun when you know exactly what your opponents are up to. And intentionally feeding has absolutely minimal tactical value, because whatever progress you gain from the diversion, you lose twicefold from the gold advantage the enemy gains.

I do agree that it would ruin a game, but if five players all agree that this is the best strategic course of action, the enemy team shouldn't have any say in that matter.

I don't particularly agree, but I hope at least my position is understood. And, whether it is or isn't, at least we can agree to disagree.

If you only strictly follow rules in a game like league, how are you supposed to find new things that might work?

If the rules were all void in the case of developing a new strategy, then what's the point of having rules in the first place? What's stopping me from playing a game of Soccer, and kicking people's knees out? It's wholly against the rules of Soccer, but it's a strategy, and it might work.

Intentionally feeding is against the rules of League. Kicking people's knees out is against the rules of Soccer. If those rules can just be completely ignored for the sake of "strategy"...Why have the rules in the first place?

just to clarify, breaking conventional "game rules" is what keeps games fresh, such as this inting strategy.

See, you refer to the intentional feeding strategy in the same turn as saying "conventional 'game rules'" as though "not feeding" is just part of the meta.

Riot, point-blank, does not tolerate intentional feeding. Not feeding isn't some convention that people do because it's the most logical thing to do (which it is, you don't win by helping the enemy team), intentionally feeding the enemy team is straight up against the rules.

It doesn't matter if it works or not in the end, and it shouldn't matter what ENEMY TEAM THINKS about this strategy, if entire team using it is on the same page.

Sure, coming up with new strategies shouldn't consider whether or not the strategy will work in the end. That's the point of coming up with new strategies.

But in regards to the enemy team - why shouldn't their position matter? As far as anyone's concerned, they all signed up for a fair and equal match of League of Legends. It's not fair for them to be fed free kills, and it's definitely not fair for them to get what amounts to an illegitimate win in a match that boils down to "one team attempts to int and surrenders at the earliest opportunity when the strategy fails".

Inting and gameplay toxicity is always a 14 day first punishment. There are no lesser ones.

this was a normal 5 man premade . if the information is correct then all it should take is for those 5 people to send a ticket to riot support. if the intent was to win and not to force strategy on your team then its fine.

Make sure every friend that got a punishment makes a ticket.