What more can Riot do about toxicity, namely in Ranked.

nighttmaire··3 votes·850 views

We've all had it happen, and here I am posting because a flagrant instance just happened to me. There was a duo dead set on throwing the lead we had gotten early on, a substantial one at that. They succeeded, and frankly my first instinct is to just uninstall. With members of the community dead set on throwing games, why take competitive seriously when all it takes is one individual to give you the metaphorical middle finger and throw. There is nothing you can do except report, and even that feels entirely unsatisfying because they can just as easily use another account. Couple this with the fact that even a permaban won't bring back your LP, and you get a situation where you feel as if the time you took to report was meaningless. What can be done to mitigate the large negative impact toxic players have on the overall community? Punishment is only one half of the equation, and there is nothing being done to compensate players negatively affected by feeders.

9 Comments

TNHA Baritone2 votes

If Riot were harsher, it would end up putting away a lot more wrong-does but at the same time punish those who are mostly positive, but had a rough time. I believe Riot wants to emphasize reform and punishment.

To be honest, I hope you win more games. The game really isn't fun when people purposely try to make you lose. I'd just stick to normals for a while or do 5 man dynamics.

Zerfallen1 votes

Sorry that you feel this way.

I got nothing else for you, besides the fact that your writing style is a nice change of pace from the normal drivel posted on the boards.

Good luck!

Makior721 votes

Not sure there is anything else to be done except maybe expedite the punishment process.

We already have incentives to behave (hex tech boxes and victorious skins)

You get feedback when someone you reported gets punished.

I would say enact a prisoners island scenario where all the toxic people only get grouped with each other and have long gueue times as well, but riot has already said they wont do this.

RawEchoes1 votes

Personally riot needs to permaban trolls after 1 time of trolling. If there is a single irrefutable instance of someone trolling a game unless theyre 5qed, or the game mode begiins with n and ends with ormals, they need a permaban on their account. Or atleast ranked.

scazzman1 votes

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Personally riot needs to permaban trolls after 1 time of trolling. If there is a single irrefutable instance of someone trolling a game unless theyre 5qed, or the game mode begiins with n and ends with ormals, they need a permaban on their account. Or atleast ranked.

i agree with this maybe not permaban from league. but permaban from ranked even for first offenders in instances of trolling. also. riot needs to clearly define what constitutes "trolling" in my opinion. it involves any of the following

  1. Deliberately throwing a game.
  2. Deliberately trying to put someone on your team on tilt
  3. Deliberately trying to bait someone into being toxic for the purpose of getting them banned
  4. Deliberately trying to get someone else to feed or sabotage a particular lane. to scapegoat a loss off of you, or just scapegoating in general
  5. Taking a game hostage before or during a game "X lane or feed, Nosurrender trolling,"
Denavai1 votes

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i agree with this maybe not permaban from league. but permaban from ranked even for first offenders in instances of trolling. also. riot needs to clearly define what constitutes "trolling"

I feel that perma ban is too offensive, but I do feel that league needs to revamp the allowable rank system. A: Limit the number of games an account can play ranked per day/week. --- This limits the number of reported offenses as the majority is likely within ranked in the first place, also helps players not receiving the proper amount of practice before with a chosen champion cause they only play ranked. B: Suspend players for mis-behavior by lowering their quota or suspending rank for x amount of time. 3 strikes? --- Players will hence give ranked more respect as it has more meaning due to limitation. C: Season suspension on players who refuse to learn. --- This allows players with extreme toxic tendencies to return to rank w/o losing their assets, but being severely punished.

scazzman1 votes

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I feel that perma ban is too offensive, but I do feel that league needs to revamp the allowable rank system. A: Limit the number of games an account can play ranked per day/week. --- This limits the number of reported offenses as the majority is likely within ranked in the first place, also helps players not receiving the proper amount of practice before with a chosen champion cause they only play ranked. B: Suspend players for mis-behavior by lowering their quota or suspending rank for x amount of time. 3 strikes? --- Players will hence give ranked more respect as it has more meaning due to limitation. C: Season suspension on players who refuse to learn. --- This allows players with extreme toxic tendencies to return to rank w/o losing their assets, but being severely punished.

this actually isn't a bad idea. my only concern with that. people may have more incentive to feed if people only get a certain number of ranked matches per week

Denavai1 votes

Yeah, I just think its sad that there's is such a harsh penalty system for a ranked que that now suggests people should only solo to create friends for groups, but now suggests you shouldn't talk at all during matches. People are just confused and they may as well make it so chat can only be seen by people who are friended! GENIUS! its the solution to all league problems.

In-game chat can only be seen by friends. Post and pre should be the only real reportable areas of offenses. Since they don't want you teaching people how to play during a match, why allow them to talk in first place. If you're helping someone play it should be someone on your friends list right? yep this is the solution

xVARIANTx1 votes

They can hire a think-tank with all that money they're getting to find a solution. Or they can actually use that team of neuroscientists/behavioral scientists (whatever) and have them find a solution.

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