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Toxicity of Premades

Kastore·8/10/2016, 7:49:25 PM·2 votes·691 views

In the recent game i have played on thing happend over and over again: Premades mock, flame, taunt and the solo player is the idiot.

In recent game history it came to the point that i even got punished for saying something since they are many and kept report me for asking things or pointing out mistakes.

e.g. I asked my ADC to not pick Vayne or Jinx since i cant lane with them* (NOTE: I dont want to discuss this matter.. Post topic is something else)

So he said "OK - i dont play them normally" and then picks her saying "i want to play her now - kappa".

I confront them and they tell me that he is not trolling and he never said that and he is right... and I get reported by them (3ppl)

And stuff like that happens all the time.. be it passive agressive or openly hostile.. And me - as main support this season - get the hate from them all the time. Yet i dont see any way or attempt from RIOT to somehow balance this or do something against it.

I hope i am not the only one with this issue bc that would mean I am the "mistake" but i have had discussions with many other players who had the same struggle so far..

So RIOT - what are you going to do to help the solo-players / do somethign against this behaviour?

Greetings Kastore

*Reason: lost almost every game with Vayne or Jinx as my ADC. So I take the "blame" by saying "i cant lane" so they dont get "offended"

11 Comments

Dynikus8/10/2016, 7:53:41 PM2 votes

There are toxic players in every queue type, be it solos, duos, trios, etc. Multiple reports don't mean anything if you don't do anything deserving of punishment.

Unrelated, I'm curious why you can't lane with Jinx? There aren't really any supports I can think of that don't work well with her.

KEONIEPPE8/10/2016, 8:14:47 PM2 votes

Bro riot doesnt give 2 sh*ts about how the game plays out, but how many reports and the chat logs so you can get completely trolled but I haven't seen a single person who has gotten punished if they just say in chat "I'm new to _____ so sorry for feeding" even if after the game you add them and they say they were trolling. I have had this happen to me before.

Emojay8/10/2016, 7:53:33 PM1 votes

Riot will say, "hey guys, be nice, and you will win more!" Then will leave to go make sweetheart yorik skin.

Kastore8/10/2016, 10:22:57 PM1 votes

Just now: Kastore : please play champs your are comfy with and nothing risky (such as yasuo that is fed or be useless) Ń e u t r a l TPFB: nice Ń e u t r a l TPFB: I like you Disappearance TPFB: i like u too Disappearance TPFB: lets be positive bcuz u do sht Disappearance TPFB: castoro brutto Kastore Tw4Se: why are premades always toxic!? Ń e u t r a l TPFB: no i was honest Ń e u t r a l TPFB: ..

Always premades... seriously...

Desolas Arterius8/11/2016, 6:06:34 PM1 votes

Reports (regardless if single or grouped) mean nothing unless you show frequent negative/toxic behavior in multiple games. A single game where you got reported does nothing and means nothing to the system. It's when you go 5+ games with consistent reporting (whether it be 1 or 4 people reporting after the game) is when you will get punished. So you have nothing to fear from being reported by toxic premades unless you aren't sharing all the information or downplaying this. I'm assuming not, so there's nothing to be worried about.

If anything I'd say report them for unsportsmanlike behavior or negativity. If that group of premades was acting rude then report and move on.

But I will say looking into your match history, I can understand why your struggling as a support. I'm not trying to say "you need to git gud" but there are a few mistakes I can see with your build that could improve your gameplay (even with Jinx and Vanye). A few of your Braum games you don't really prioritize tanky health items. Braum is a tank support that needs health items. Obviously you still build armor and MR, but never did you build a sunfire cape, warmogs, spirit visage, etc. This is just the Braum games I looked at, but simply saying "I cant lane with X" because you lost almost every game is a poor excuse for not getting better and improving. I feel you're holding yourself back and refusing to learn how to lane with those champions. Try to break out of that so you can keep improving. It's not really fair to say "Dont pick X because I cant lane with them" to another player, especially if that's their main or most comfortable. It wouldn't be right for someone to tell you not to pick your best support because they "can't lane" or "always lose" with that support.

Either way, I wish you luck. Not all premades are rude, but if you do come across a rude group just report and move on. Easier on the mind and feels better than to keep dwelling on their negative behavior.

Hope that helps.

PS: I dont really have this issue, playing as solo or grouped, because I dont let others get under my skin :) I just play for fun and always learn from mistakes I might have made. We all aren't perfect, but never forget to keep improving!

Kastore8/20/2016, 7:49:32 PM1 votes

Btw today again:

2 premades: A 4 man in mine and a 3 man in the enemy team.

My team constantly insults, blames, flames ppl in french starting already in the champ select and continues in the game (if said nothing the whole selection)

Enemy midlaner keeps on trash talking in all chat against "how bad i am" and "that why walls suck" (Anivia) yet goes 0/6 against me and have a Panth-Heimer botlane (trolling) and they win.

Seriously... what is wrong with these premades?! Constant flame, blame, trolling and the solo player is the idiot of it