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tarzzan··1 votes·1,221 views

I was recently perma banned after a two week suspension off league of legends. only a day after the temp ban was cleared I was expelled off of league. Only to receive two Chat Logs of me raging at my team and enemy who were blatantly calling me names and instigating for me to say something. After game they all reported me leaving me with many reports off a previous 14 day suspension. League is a fun game I cant lie, yet there are many things about it that riot doesn't seem to want to fix. one being the unfair reporting system "Because a player triggered review found your in-game comms extremely inflammatory and offensive, your account has been suspensed." what? so the system is unfair because a bunch of people can throw in reports on your account leading up to multiple suspensions even if you were treated wrong riot will ban you. me being an ex player who devoted 2 years into this game and $800 I've gotten nothing back from riot except unfair punishments and random dc's and bugs-splats from the game when my computer and connection is completely fine. Back to the matter the pure focus in pro league games and non community. nothing has been done to help people that suffer from these consequences of outdated systems. I understand everyone in the rift deserves respect even though its a competitive game. Though my comms say otherwise yet I ask to be exonerated for what has been done which can be undone and learnt from. Maybe I can get a permamute from chat I only ask for something big and its to be unbanned. I feel as If I can change because I really want to do it. yet let it be on this account. I love this game with a passion, being rude takes that away for other players but my mind is now set on fixing myself. I hope this forum can receive insight for the higher ups to fix some problems in the systems as I know Riot isn't perfect and no one should be expecting everything to be. Yet this is a problem that can be resolved with attention. I'm sorry. -Tarzzan

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I understand my punishment and will try and move on to reform. Thank you all for your inputs.

67 Comments

This Is Your Dad9 votes

People seem to only ever be sorry when they've lost something. You aren't sorry for the things that you said. You're sorry because you were punished for the things that you said. Even now you are trying to justify your behavior. Also multiple reports don't do any more than 1 report does.

tarzzan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Anti Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=esEOXia9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-04-23T19:17:50.442+0000)

People seem to only ever be sorry when they've lost something. You aren't sorry for the things that you said. You're sorry because you were punished for the things that you said. Even now you are trying to justify your behavior. Also multiple reports don't do any more than 1 report does.

Wrong. Even though I have no proof I apologize for anything I say to people. And no one or two reports full of people that target you for troll just to get you banned isn't justful by anymeans.

Martensitic2 votes

Even though I have no proof I apologize for anything I say to people.

So?

Do you think anyone cares about some lame apology? Toxics need to be punished.

tarzzan1 votes

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So?

Do you think anyone cares about some lame apology? Toxics need to be punished.

Same thing people say always. Find a new phrase. All of you act the same in these forums. Sad to see yet this game is dieing and its quite obvious.

Martensitic2 votes

Sad to see yet this game is dieing

Same sad thing banned people always say. *Yawn*

100+ million monthly players. Most successful video game in history. Largest ESport scene by far. Most profitable video game in the industry.

So no, the game is not dYing.

tarzzan1 votes

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Same sad thing banned people always say. *Yawn*

100+ million monthly players. Most successful video game in history. Largest ESport scene by far. Most profitable video game in the industry.

So no, the game is not dYing.

Lol "100+ monthly players" oh yeah bring up old stats from 2014 that arent confirmed... most successful video game in history? What? Did Riot pay you a couple ip to say that? Because no its not. Yeah sure maybe its the largest close to CSGO. Most profitable video game in the industry? What industry lol? I only see Dota and League and Riot only owns one game.. so idk bud

GeminiRune2 votes

Dude, the monthly active players was a stat that was literally picked up last year (Sept 2016 specifically).

Most successful game; considering it's been endlessly popular and the top of stream content, I would say so. Having toxic players does bode to it's lapse in success but what game MM/MOBA game doesn't have that?

Esport Scene: Literally rivaled by CS:GO, especially when Majors come around.

The rest of what you say just shows you're kind of lacking knowledge on video games.

tarzzan1 votes

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Dude, the monthly active players was a stat that was literally picked up last year (Sept 2016 specifically).

Most successful game; considering it's been endlessly popular and the top of stream content, I would say so. Having toxic players does bode to it's lapse in success but what game MM/MOBA game doesn't have that?

Esport Scene: Literally rivaled by CS:GO, especially when Majors come around.

The rest of what you say just shows you're kind of lacking knowledge on video games.

Ok Sir. I'm not savvy with the recent stats then.item 3070

Martensitic1 votes

Ok Sir. I'm not savvy with the recent stats then.

Then you should not bring them up in discussions, especially not against people who are.

Lol "100+ monthly players" oh yeah bring up old stats from 2014 that arent confirmed

The 100+ million monthly players is a recent stat. And apparently, it is confirmed enough for Forbes...but hey, they are only one of the leading financial news outlets in the world, so what do they know, am I right?

most successful video game in history? What? Did Riot pay you a couple ip to say that? Because no its not. Yeah sure maybe its the largest close to CSGO.

Most successful as it is the most played non-mobile, non single player game in the world.

Oh and btw. the flaming-clown-fiesta known as CS:Garbage, is number 6 on that list...less popular than the 13 year old World of Warcraft. They wish they were close to League.

Most profitable video game in the industry? What industry lol?

The video game industry? Because, we are, you know, talking about video games?

FYI, League is owned by these guys, also known as the largest gaming company in the world...and the most profitable one. Their market value is estimated at exceeding 280 BILLION $. Oh, fyi, they are doing so well in fact, that they are about to launch a steam competitor...which btw. they have been running successfully in the chinese market for years already.

Anything else you want to discuss about these facts?

DuskDaUmbreon3 votes

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...Only to receive two Chat Logs of me raging at my team

There's why. You raged and flamed, after having already been punished with a 14-day ban. It takes a TON of work to get that far, and it's always been THE final warning. The simple fact that you got up to a 14-day means that you have a long history of being toxic. If you couldn't regulate yourself at all over that time, through the chat restrictions and shorter bans, Riot has no reason to believe you're going to change.

tarzzan

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There's why. You raged and flamed, after having already been punished with a 14-day ban. It takes a TON of work to get that far, and it's always been THE final warning. The simple fact that you got up to a 14-day means that you have a long history of being toxic. If you couldn't regulate yourself at all over that time, through the chat restrictions and shorter bans, Riot has no reason to believe you're going to change.

I did regulate myself after that time, it takes little to no time to snap when someone is intentionally targetting you as the games scapegoat. The only reason Riot has for me to change is the unfair system against players like me.

This Is Your Dad2 votes

I was recently a victim of team harassment, and what happened was they cycled through targets, and each time the other people would get really toxic back. I stayed out of it, but because of that, all 4 of them, now in a terrible mood because of our adc, all targeted me. It was like they all banded together as one toxic unification. I chose to stay out of it, and as a result I was the scapegoat. I sent out 4 reports, and was notified that someone was punished. Simple.

tarzzan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Anti Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=esEOXia9,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-04-23T19:29:42.626+0000)

I was recently a victim of team harassment, and what happened was they cycled through targets, and each time the other people would get really toxic back. I stayed out of it, but because of that, all 4 of them, now in a terrible mood because of our adc, all targeted me. It was like they all banded together as one toxic unification. I chose to stay out of it, and as a result I was the scapegoat. I sent out 4 reports, and was notified that someone was punished. Simple.

I understand now ty

This Is Your Dad1 votes

I think the biggest lesson to learn is that even if you feel cornered, riot doesn't use witness logic. So 4 people reporting you falsely won't do anything, but you reporting 4 people truthfully will. That helps me to not react to bad situations. Someone tells me to kill myself? That's okay, because instant feedback will most likely catch them. There's only been one time I can recall where someone didn't get punished for spamming chat with obscene profanity and death threats, and that was with an annie mid, but for the most part I get a message every time. Use Riot's punishment system as a catalyst to keep you calm.

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

This is why Riot, and almost all of us who reply in these threads, will repeatedly urge players to use the mute function. If someone, or a team full of someones, is flaming you and you cannot keep from saying something back to them, MUTE THEM. There will always be people on the internet who look for someone else to blame for their mistakes. A jungler fails a gank, and it's the laner's fault. An adc dies, and it's the support's fault. A premade group is losing, and it's the random's fault. A player is banned, and it's Riot's fault. The fact of the matter is, in every single one of those cases, part of the blame, if not all of it, lies with the person/persons who is doing the blaming.

We don't come into these threads because we simply want to tell you that we are glad you were banned and good riddance. Sure, there are a couple forum trolls who do that, but the majority of us are here because we genuinely want to help people understand what happens in the system, and how to keep this sort of thing from happening again. If you had come to us before your permaban, we would have tried to help you keep from being banned. But since we cannot help you with that, we can only try to show you how to keep from letting this happen again, if you choose to make another account, which you are always free to do.

As to one of your earlier points, I happen to agree. I think a sort of probationary period after a 14 day temporary suspension might actually be a good thing. Perhaps a 10 game chat restriction after the ban is lifted to help ease players back into the game. It's not uncommon for prisoners to be placed on probation after they are released from prison. It might have merit. I suppose some might say it's not necessary, because of how statistics show that the players who are given a 14 day suspension may tend to end up being permabanned anyway. I'm not sure. I don't know the numbers on that. But it doesn't seem like it would be that difficult to implement, and it might actually help some people. Seems like a lot of players are quite resentful at being given their 14 day suspension, they are bitter and angry, and that mindset carries over, even after they resume playing. It's possible that they take it out on their teammates. It might also be possible that after a few games of cooling off, they would be less likely to do that, and more able to follow the rules. And if they are the type who are going to be toxic no matter what, then they will end up banned anyway, so it's not like it would be leaving toxic people in the community to continue harassing innocent players. If they are determined to act that way, they won't last long after the restriction being lifted.

ModThe Djinn2 votes

{quoted}We don't come into these threads because we simply want to tell you that we are glad you were banned and good riddance. Sure, there are a couple forum trolls who do that, but the majority of us are here because we genuinely want to help people understand what happens in the system, and how to keep this sort of thing from happening again. If you had come to us before your permaban, we would have tried to help you keep from being banned. But since we cannot help you with that, we can only try to show you how to keep from letting this happen again, if you choose to make another account, which you are always free to do.

Just wanted to second this, since it's not something a lot of people who make threads here seem to realize. A lot of us really are trying to help and, if we can't, at least trying to explain what happened and why it happened.

As to one of your earlier points, I happen to agree. I think a sort of probationary period after a 14 day temporary suspension might actually be a good thing. Perhaps a 10 game chat restriction after the ban is lifted to help ease players back into the game.

That's definitely an interesting idea that I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to, although I feel that I'd almost rather it be a 14-day ban followed by a period in which the player is presented with a screen reminding them that they're on their last warning, and that they are judged by only their own behavior and that the mute button exists if they find themselves being provoked -- and that this screen pops up before they can enter queue each time.

The chat restriction doesn't help, since some 14-day bans aren't for verbal behavior, and it still allows players to be more toxic than I feel is appropriate -- so a "grace" period runs the risk of hurting the games of others.

Some sort of reminder would be good though. Something that makes players take a moment to think about whether they're in the right mindset for a game, and reminds them of the tools available to them to deal with frustrating players.

tarzzan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=esEOXia9,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2017-04-23T20:57:53.437+0000)

Just wanted to second this, since it's not something a lot of people who make threads here seem to realize. A lot of us really are trying to help and, if we can't, at least trying to explain what happened and why it happened.

That's definitely an interesting idea that I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to, although I feel that I'd almost rather it be a 14-day ban followed by a period in which the player is presented with a screen reminding them that they're on their last warning, and that they are judged by only their own behavior and that the mute button exists if they find themselves being provoked -- and that this screen pops up before they can enter queue each time.

The chat restriction doesn't help, since some 14-day bans aren't for verbal behavior, and it still allows players to be more toxic than I feel is appropriate -- so a "grace" period runs the risk of hurting the games of others.

Some sort of reminder would be good though. Something that makes players take a moment to think about whether they're in the right mindset for a game, and reminds them of the tools available to them to deal with frustrating players.

I agree.

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

That's definitely an interesting idea that I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to, although I feel that I'd almost rather it be a 14-day ban followed by a period in which the player is presented with a screen reminding them that they're on their last warning, and that they are judged by only their own behavior and that the mute button exists if they find themselves being provoked -- and that this screen pops up before they can enter queue each time.

Some sort of reminder would be good though. Something that makes players take a moment to think about whether they're in the right mindset for a game, and reminds them of the tools available to them to deal with frustrating players.

Now this is a really good idea. Just a simple pop-up before a game that a player has to click through shouldn't be too complicated to code or implement, and I think you are right. Anything that makes them pause for a minute with a reminder of what is at stake might help. Might be worth fielding this out to the Arbiters, or Tantram if he pokes his head in here to get their thoughts on it.

ModThe Djinn2 votes

{quoted}Might be worth fielding this out to the Arbiters, or Tantram if he pokes his head in here to get their thoughts on it.

I'll keep that in mind. My only thought here is that it's a VERY simple idea...and I'm positive Riot has thought of it before. Which likely means either they found it ineffective, or simply had other priorities.

Which is understandable, as it's a feature useful to, at most, about 5% of the playerbase, a decent percentage of whom don't need any warnings other than the first chat restriction.

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

It's certainly possible that Riot has thought about it before and decided against it. I wondered if it was something like that, or if it was because of a bias against trying to do anything else to help players that are repeatedly breaking the rules. In some sense, I can understand that. Players know what the rules are, and they are choosing to break the rules, and eventually they should have to face the consequences. I'm sure you've seen the players who come on the boards only to type things like "Ban deserved, good riddance" in threads like this one. I've never liked seeing things like that. It's very judgmental, and so harsh. And it completely ignores the fact that just because a player makes a bad decision, doesn't mean they stop being a person.

I would hope that Riot wouldn't use logic like that in making a decision about whether to implement something that actually could help players to reform. It's one thing to tell people "You have been toxic. Stop being toxic, or we kick you out." It's another thing entirely to tell people "You have been toxic. Try to remember in this match that if your team gangs up on you, you don't have to listen to that crap. You deserve a better experience as a player. Mute them and report them after so that we know what they are doing and can make sure they stop." It would seem to me, that something like this would do more as far as actually helping players reform than simply doling out a punishment. After all, while some players come to the Boards and ask for help on how to deal with teammates who gang up on them, or tips on how to not be toxic, certainly not all of them do.

Though I can definitely see your point that Riot might have other priorities. What with the new client, updates to the IFS to help catch trolls and feeders, and so many new features that are being worked on, they probably do have their hands full. But it's at least something to think about.

tarzzan2 votes

One thing that I feel is necessarry is to have some sort of barrier between a 14day suspension and a permaban in which it doesnt take one or two games to delete a 3 year old account like it was nothing.. maybe even a chat restriction in between. But obv no one will check my opinion. Because suspensions obv helps ppl reform maybe even after unjustful punishments

ModThe Djinn2 votes

{quoted}One thing that I feel is necessarry is to have some sort of barrier between a 14day suspension and a permaban...

On what basis? Behavior has to be pretty toxic or pretty reliably negative to escalate to a 14-day ban in the first place, and if that someone isn't enough warning that you have to start showing GREAT behavior...

Because suspensions obv helps ppl reform maybe even after unjustful punishments

Riot has actually found that, if the first suspension doesn't do much, the later ones have a diminishing return. Hence why you can get banned for just 1-2 games of bad behavior coming off of a 14-day ban. If THAT punishment didn't make you realize something was wrong with your behavior, they don't feel like they owe you many more chances.

tarzzan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=esEOXia9,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-04-23T20:01:08.237+0000)

On what basis? Behavior has to be pretty toxic or pretty reliably negative to escalate to a 14-day ban in the first place, and if that someone isn't enough warning that you have to start showing GREAT behavior...

Riot has actually found that, if the first suspension doesn't do much, the later ones have a diminishing return. Hence why you can get banned for just 1-2 games of bad behavior coming off of a 14-day ban. If THAT punishment didn't make you realize something was wrong with your behavior, they don't feel like they owe you many more chances.

That punishment was based off this same one of players instigating hate on me. None the less all of the pictures you guys are trying to paint arent new in anyway possible. Ive seen these types of forums before I took a chance and it blew. No room for people like me and no say. Nobody here is open minded at all. And look at the same propaganda Riot has been spewing for years and years. About how nothings wrong and the system is ok by telling you how the whole system is and will always be. This game is full of crap. A bunch of other people who quit it agree with me. I changed my mind about it all after more insight on everything... Riot has no morals for its players that brought its money in and helped foster the so called "Pro Players" that get honored for all glory.

ModThe Djinn4 votes

{quoted}No room for people like me and no say. Nobody here is open minded at all.

I'm actually always happy to give players the benefit of the doubt when they seem to understand the system properly. That means understanding three important factors:

1 -- The report system is designed to people CANNOT gang up on you. 1 report means just as much as 4. This sort of thing:

After game they all reported me leaving me with many reports off a previous 14 day suspension.

...doesn't mean any more than a single report. That's one flagged game, and that's all.

2 -- You are held responsible ONLY for your own actions, and other people are held responsible ONLY for their actions. This means that it your responsibility to behave in a civil, community-appropriate way no matter what sort of provocation you encounter. Yes, those who are provoking you should be punished. But you should also know better than to rise to their level.

3 -- Coming after you've wasted your final warning and complaining does no good, especially if you come in the "I'm right, the system is wrong" mentality and do not actually want a discussion. We're always HAPPY to help players realize what they did wrong and how they can fix their behavior, but if you wait until after the last strike then there's a problem.

And look at the same propaganda Riot has been spewing for years and years. About how nothings wrong and the system is ok by telling you how the whole system is and will always be.

How did the system fail you? It gave you several warnings (unless it escalated you immediately to a 14-day ban), and the behavioral expectations are pretty easy to find.

If you got an immediate 14-day ban and an immediate permanent ban afterwards, and have your chat logs that show you were at least half decently behaved in the game you were permanently banned for, I may well change my mind on this case. But as presented it seems that you're upset the system has banned you for what seems like a justified reason, and it's hard to take your side when you claim that your toxicity should somehow deserve another chance that no one else gets.

The 14-day ban IS the final warning. This is why permanent bans are not reversed. If it takes you one warning PAST your final warning to learn that you should improve your behavior that's not a fault of Riot's system.

tarzzan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=esEOXia9,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-23T20:17:29.902+0000)

I'm actually always happy to give players the benefit of the doubt when they seem to understand the system properly. That means understanding three important factors:

1 -- The report system is designed to people CANNOT gang up on you. 1 report means just as much as 4. This sort of thing:

...doesn't mean any more than a single report. That's one flagged game, and that's all.

2 -- You are held responsible ONLY for your own actions, and other people are held responsible ONLY for their actions. This means that it your responsibility to behave in a civil, community-appropriate way no matter what sort of provocation you encounter. Yes, those who are provoking you should be punished. But you should also know better than to rise to their level.

3 -- Coming after you've wasted your final warning and complaining does no good, especially if you come in the "I'm right, the system is wrong" mentality and do not actually want a discussion. We're always HAPPY to help players realize what they did wrong and how they can fix their behavior, but if you wait until after the last strike then there's a problem.

How did the system fail you? It gave you several warnings (unless it escalated you immediately to a 14-day ban), and the behavioral expectations are pretty easy to find.

If you got an immediate 14-day ban and an immediate permanent ban afterwards, and have your chat logs that show you were at least half decently behaved in the game you were permanently banned for, I may well change my mind on this case. But as presented it seems that you're upset the system has banned you for what seems like a justified reason, and it's hard to take your side when you claim that your toxicity should somehow deserve another chance that no one else gets.

The 14-day ban IS the final warning. This is why permanent bans are not reversed. If it takes you one warning PAST your final warning to learn that you should improve your behavior that's not a fault of Riot's system.

tarzzan1 votes

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Sorry Im replying by phone. On point 1 what do you mean by the system is designed so people cant gang up on me?

ModThe Djinn3 votes

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Sorry Im replying by phone. On point 1 what do you mean by the system is designed so people cant gang up on me?

No worries! Phones are awkward for forum use.

What I mean is that a SINGLE report is all it takes to flag a game for review. If you get more, those other reports are completely redundant.

What the system is looking for is language it has learned to identify combined with the presence of ONE report, and/or a high frequency of reports compared to your total number of games played.

Contrary to common belief, most players are NOT reported frequently enough to trigger the system -- it's pretty good at filtering out bad reports.

This design is so that pre-made groups can't gang up on other players, and so that the "scape-goating" situation can't occur. It's also there to discourage chat that is all about requesting reports on other players, since all you need is one report.

If your particular case, it probably looked at your first 1-2 games back and realized "this guy seems to have been reported once (again, it only cares if you were reported ONCE) in all of his games after a ban. That's not good. Better check on this." Hence why your Chat Logs would be useful to post if you think this is an unfair assessment: it will let us see if the system is overreacting to false positives, or whether your behavior was indeed unacceptable.

tarzzan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=esEOXia9,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-23T20:49:30.471+0000)

No worries! Phones are awkward for forum use.

What I mean is that a SINGLE report is all it takes to flag a game for review. If you get more, those other reports are completely redundant.

What the system is looking for is language it has learned to identify combined with the presence of ONE report, and/or a high frequency of reports compared to your total number of games played.

Contrary to common belief, most players are NOT reported frequently enough to trigger the system -- it's pretty good at filtering out bad reports.

This design is so that pre-made groups can't gang up on other players, and so that the "scape-goating" situation can't occur. It's also there to discourage chat that is all about requesting reports on other players, since all you need is one report.

If your particular case, it probably looked at your first 1-2 games back and realized "this guy seems to have been reported once (again, it only cares if you were reported ONCE) in all of his games after a ban. That's not good. Better check on this." Hence why your Chat Logs would be useful to post if you think this is an unfair assessment: it will let us see if the system is overreacting to false positives, or whether your behavior was indeed unacceptable.

I understand okay thank you.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

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I understand okay thank you.

Any time. Always happy to help.

ModPrandine1 votes

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Sorry Im replying by phone. On point 1 what do you mean by the system is designed so people cant gang up on me?

They mean that 1 report is as good as 9 reports in that it only take 1 game to flag a game for review (keyword: review, not guilt), and multiple reports do not change anything about that. As long as you're not doing anything wrong the system won't punish you even if you get gang-reported, and all of those false and inaccurate reports will be thrown out.

69469238DEL12 votes

Here's the good news, you were bad anyway

OnlyYouCanHearMe2 votes

Sorry for an off-topic, but where did your icon come from? I don't think I've seen it before and it's pretty.

tarzzan1 votes

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Sorry for an off-topic, but where did your icon come from? I don't think I've seen it before and it's pretty.

Yeah its a good icon I think it came out when the new warringkingdoms skins came out. It may still be in shop

69469238DEL11 votes

No it was never available in the store

tarzzan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Primordial Hydra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=esEOXia9,comment-id=0005000100000000,timestamp=2017-04-23T20:51:02.909+0000)

No it was never available in the store

Sir, yes it was. Until Feb 2 2017. One was available for ip and the icon I have is the Jade Emperor Icon.

69469238DEL11 votes

The question is in my inbox, she wasn't asking about your icon

tarzzan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Primordial Hydra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=esEOXia9,comment-id=000500010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-23T21:23:01.840+0000)

The question is in my inbox, she wasn't asking about your icon

opes my bad ;)

ModWuks1 votes

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/skins/lunar-revel-2017#/champion/azir

Tarzzan's right; it's a legacy icon. (He's talking about his icon, by the way, not yours. I just realized you're probably in Chronological View and can't tell who's talking to whom).

69469238DEL11 votes

As an Arbiter you should understand response color blocking on the forums, she was asking about my icon not the op

ModWuks3 votes

I'm tilted. You're right. :P

ModThe Djinn2 votes

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I'm tilted. You're right. :P

It's okay, Wuks. Colors are hard. :P

<3

69469238DEL11 votes

Donating to charity

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

When/what charity did you have to donate to? I don't recall seeing anything about that event, but it might have been before I started playing.

69469238DEL11 votes

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/community/community-programs/join-riot-impact-challenge

vampirekid132 votes

getting 9 reports or 1 report in a game doesnt make a difference, you got reported then banned. how many reports is irrelevant. 1 report would of still gotten you banned.

tarzzan1 votes

I tried to take a chance with one of these forums that cry about a permaban, yet they never work. One side to the story isn't enough to solve an issue. Bye Legaue - Tarzzan out

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

The reasons for your behavior aren't taken into account, you're responsible for your actions and the other players are responsible for theirs.

While we can't help you get a different punishment, you can plead your case to Riot through a Support Ticket. All we can do here is figure out why you were punished, and help you find ways to improve so it doesn't happen again.

tarzzan1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=esEOXia9,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-04-23T19:56:05.820+0000)

The reasons for your behavior aren't taken into account, you're responsible for your actions and the other players are responsible for theirs.

While we can't help you get a different punishment, you can plead your case to Riot through a Support Ticket. All we can do here is figure out why you were punished, and help you find ways to improve so it doesn't happen again.

Find ways to improve on what? A permabanned account that has almost a thousand dollars invested in? And Its a load of crap if Riot thinks they would do anything to help players like me cause they dont care. If they really did the system wouldn't be so one sided.

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

Find ways to improve on what?

Your behavior. You didn't get banned because people reported you, you were banned because of what they reported. If you post the logs we can look over it with you and possibly provide some feedback, as long as you're willing to listen and accept that you might be the one in the wrong.

69469238DEL12 votes

Nami you are blue again!

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