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This is Serious issue ( Silver to Gold elo ) New Players and Rank

BringTheThunder··2 votes·1,029 views

OK I don't mind losing game if its fair and square. but this kind of games I hate most people who just lvl account reached lvl 30 and jump to rank like they will do awsome in it will they at least dont know the basic of the games.

  1. Runes / match History (picture for example my last match )

match History (not even care about the game go rank he barely touch the game )

http://imgur.com/a/fuGbF

is this even a lux support runes

http://imgur.com/a/19sUQ

  1. Deaths and not playing safe even we talk to them to ply safe we try carry but nope lets go in die more

http://imgur.com/a/XYqiW

same issue with our adc but i tired to carry i rly do but can't 2 people just don't know how to play is there a way make new players just start Bronze 5 directly then work hard towards be good at game they play mostly in low gold high silver most of time how to carry this how this is even fair match up ? the enemy team dont have lvl 30 players THIS IS SERIOUS! I need an official statement on this case ( of new players and rank )

9 Comments

KillerPenguins2 votes

New players to ranked start with an average elo, which is mid/high silver. If they lose a lot, they drop to bronze, if they win, they go up. If you're an average skilled player, you're going to be playing with and against players who are new to ranked a lot.

scazzman1 votes

i disagree with this. i honestly believe EVERYONE should start at the same place. bronze 5

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

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i disagree with this. i honestly believe EVERYONE should start at the same place. bronze 5

You'd still have the same problem. People would come to the forum and cry because instead of demoting to bronze 5 they're unable to climb past bronze 5. That's a fictional scenario but I imagine not far from reality....

Everyone already starts at the same place though? I mean I don't know how placements work but don't we start at the same spot and go up or down as our placement matches go?

Simplified, I imagine it's like: Everyone starts at 0. If you win you go to 1, if you lose you go to -1.

scazzman1 votes

however. it would completely eliminate smurfing

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

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however. it would completely eliminate smurfing

How? I mean isn't your system basically the same as the current system?

Instead of starting at, say, silver and having room to go up or down your systems starts at the bottom and only goes up. Yeah?

Isn't someone who wants to smurf going to smurf?

Actually I like starting with Average players, as KillerPenguins said the system does. Then if it's too hard or too easy for me I get adjusted. I mean your system is basically the same. It's hard for me to think about.

scazzman1 votes

it would stop smurfs from tanking thier placements to get to thier desired elo, they start out at bronze 5 anyway.EVERYONE would technically be a smurf, also. placements are decided by hidden elo currently

Kings Avatar1 votes

this isnt really how the ranked system works. you have a hidden mmr behind the scenes. its how the game matches people in normal's. and to address the smurf thing, if the smurf lvled the account from 1-30 the mmr would be much higher, so they would start promos at maybe high gold and end the promos at plat 1 (if the smurf was lest say master teir). and for nomral players its a similar thing. if your really carboard 7 bad then youll start those promos in bronze. and probably end them in bronze. if you have an account that hasnt hit 30 yet, look up the ranks of people you play with in normals. or if you want a different kind of example of a player who is really good but just donest play ranked go look up some bubbakush lee sin plays. man doenst play any ranked but plays with people who are dimond in normals, because the game has a mmr system outside of jsut the ranked system.

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

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this isnt really how the ranked system works. you have a hidden mmr behind the scenes. its how the game matches people in normal's. and to address the smurf thing, if the smurf lvled the account from 1-30 the mmr would be much higher, so they would start promos at maybe high gold and end the promos at plat 1 (if the smurf was lest say master teir). and for nomral players its a similar thing. if your really carboard 7 bad then youll start those promos in bronze. and probably end them in bronze. if you have an account that hasnt hit 30 yet, look up the ranks of people you play with in normals. or if you want a different kind of example of a player who is really good but just donest play ranked go look up some bubbakush lee sin plays. man doenst play any ranked but plays with people who are dimond in normals, because the game has a mmr system outside of jsut the ranked system.

I don't believe MMR is shared between normal and ranked.....

Gary B Enkelis1 votes

It's not serious. You are mad because you lost some games and because someone is beyond your control.

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