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Toxic community?

Kemosabeeeee··5 votes·2,552 views

So i just recently got to summoner level 30 and was having some fun playing unranked and stuff with people who were of an equal skill before i got to 30. Now i just played a game mere minutes ago, my first ranked game ever on lol. I had heard how toxic the lower elo players can be. So i went in as Annie mid. Long story short, i basically have a terrible game against a Talon i think was smurfing (not entirely sure) and i got absolutely slandered by my teammates. Got called a retard. Got called dumb. Got reported at least three times and got a barrage of further abuse, most of which i won't share due to it being fairly mainstream stuff. My point is however, that i came out of this game pretty much wanting to quit the game solely based on the toxic community this game has and the unforgiving nature the community and Riot seems to have towards greeting new players. I can't even queue unranked now because i get matched with people who are clearly way better than i am and you even get people who flame in unranked. So can anyone help me try and stay on the game? I really want to stay because i love the game and i want to get better at it, but most of the people give me no confidence whatsoever and seem to attack newer players. I haven't met a single teammate or opponent who has helped me in any way to learn the game or get better at it.

38 Comments

Unstoppable Monk3 votes

A fresh level 30 has no business in ranked, sorry. You have a hard time in normals, but you believe that ladder is going to be better? Many games get ruined from new players, due to no real barriers to ranked. It's pretty much the most common form of non-reportable griefing in ranked you can do. You can't simply pick a champion that's easy that you pick up kills with or believe that's OP and expect the game to win itself while your teammates pat you on the back for doing so great without putting any effort into your own skills.

If you really, really want to be a ranked player... step up your game for about x 20.

Just report the people who excessively flame you out in normals.

The problem with helping people is the constant stream of players that believe they are good, getting defensive over it. No one really is going to bother to help you, because there's always someone crying toxicity over something that might actually be useful. Even then post game commentary is not really that useful since most of the time its misinformation or overclaimed knowledge most of the time.

There's YT videos, online guides, and other content that you can consume to get better which is more accurate. Might also ask people about their main if you happen to meet people that play a champion you like. Also keep in mind old guides, YT videos that are troll, and generally top lists might be inaccurate.

TLDR: Don't ranked-newbie it. Watch YT / Read Guides. Lux isn't a support. Find out what roles you want and study.

Glowdust4 votes

"A fresh level 30 has no business in ranked, sorry." This is considered toxic and quite frankly arrogant. Someone that is a new 30 has every right to play a ranked game if they want. So what they arent as good as everyone else, there is a learning curve to this game as it is. Thats like saying someone that just got their drivers license shouldnt drive on anything bigger than a 2 lane road... I forgot, you are one of those rare players that started out in D1 and never dropped arent you?

I agree that guides are good to look at and learn from but again, thats like saying reading a book on how to fire a weapon is the same as firing it your self....its not. Practice is norms is recommended, not required, anyone and everyone is allowed to try it. There is nothing like playing a champion yourself to figure out how it works and how you enjoy playing it, everyone is different and there is NOTHING wrong with that. Lux CAN be a support if used properly and a quite damaging one at that.

All in all, just have fun. Whether it be in ranked or norms or even the god forsaken ARAM, have fun. If all else fails /mute all and move on.

Unstoppable Monk2 votes

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"A fresh level 30 has no business in ranked, sorry." This is considered toxic and quite frankly arrogant. Someone that is a new 30 has every right to play a ranked game if they want.

Riot has specifically stated that the lack of barrier between 30 and ranked is somewhat problematic. Sorry that your definition of toxic is defined by things you dislike, but that's not what League toxicity is.

New players that can't fundamentally recognize what to do with even the most simplest of main champion and role create no-contest games that are legitimately defined by losing the game for their team.

Let's use your example of drivers licenses: there are probationary permits, possibility of suspensions, and restrictions. That would mean that a newbie's ranked privileges would be revocable, yet you claim all should have a pass. Your example is a contradiction, I'm afraid. Driving is not a right, as any DMV would tell you. Or did you skip that part because you don't have a license?

Glowdust2 votes

Actually its MY right to drive as i have been doing it for nearly 15 years now.

Riot has specifically stated that the lack of barrier between 30 and ranked is somewhat problematic.

Problematic to a bunch of try hards that have to win every game...or think that they can do what....its a game, everyone has the RIGHT, to have fun. You didnt get the game for them, so they can play ranked if they want to aka...THEIR RIGHT....

League toxicity begins with people like you thinking they are smarter than everyone around them, oh how wrong most of you arrogant people are. The game is meant to be played to have fun. Sorry if a new person ruins your fun, better luck next time...or were you not new to the game at some point? Dont be a prick. Guide these people, dont flame them and limit them. "No contest games" .....no such thing. There is always a way to win and if you dont think there is, step back and examine it, figure it out. No win situations are not allowed. If you think that, then afk or leave the game.

Probationary permits...what do you think levels 1-29 are? Once i passed my test, i have EARNED MY RIGHT to drive. Go read a book, get off your soap box and stop flaming new people. Dont be an asshat to the new people that want to play a ranked game, its their right to if they so choose to.

Unstoppable Monk3 votes

I don't flame people for being new. But thanks for the personal attacks on your soap box for sticking up for those people who get 10 cs in 10 minutes in ranked.

Glowdust3 votes

who cares what they get in ranked, not your concern. Help them, dont flame them, clearly that is too hard for you. So....exrcise your RIGHT and leave the game or just dont play and make it less toxic in the mean time...thanks

Unstoppable Monk2 votes

Pretty sure my concern is winning in ranked.

Helping them in a game is impossible because you cannot teach someone how to play the game in the 30 seconds of champion select. Telling them to not ruin games in ranked until they are ready is the nicest thing you can do because they are just going to be griefing every game that they exist. They are ruining the game experience due to their lack of mechanics, technically. There's no excuse for skipping out on learning at least some fundamental mechanics on the very champions that people play. Especially when there's plenty of content out there.

Ranked is a different environment with different expectations. Throwing around the word toxic because of that fact, isn't constructive. Many people would have delayed their venture into ranked, if they did it over again.

Throwing oneself into ranked without knowing anything is a direct insult to the people who put an effort to actually teaching people. Telling new people to not do ranked yet, is a common occurrence. There's a huge difference between someone having a bad game and someone who doesn't know what the buttons do. Even a bad game player can win.

Glowdust2 votes

Im not saying they should only play ranked games, im simply saying they can/will try it if they want. Let them figure out the difference in ranked and norms, they will see the different level of play quickly. Maybe that in its self will be enough to inspire them to work on their game a bit more before jumping into it again. Flaming them right off the rip is never and never has been a productive way to criticize someone. You want to help lower the toxicity in League? Stop flaming people right off the bat. Better yet, every morning you wake up, have someone punch you in the face, see how your day rolls from there, bet it doesnt seem as nice. Same concept applies here, dont flame someone for being new to the ranked scene. I never said to teach someone the game in 30 seconds, to play enough to get to level 30 you have to have some basic idea and mechanics of the game, you have to teach them the game, give them advice on what to do, dont flame, give guidance on mistakes that were made. There are ways to do this w/o being a total douche. Playing a ranked game shouldnt be an insult to anyone, its a game, objective...have fun. You think the professional players are just in it to win? No, they love the game and are having fun playing it as should everyone, pro or brand new level 30.

Unstoppable Monk2 votes

Having people learn the hard way in a game with thousands of people just creates a never ending flood of people who are throwing games by existing.

If people want to just have fun without knowing anything, they can go play ARAM or Rotating game mode. And you are incorrect, people level accounts by playing bots until they cannot get more experience from that. So they relatively do not know or get anything.

Kemosabeeeee1 votes

Yeah i understand that i may have no "business" being in ranked having just got to level thirty. But i didn't have much choice given the people i am being matched with in unranked now i'm level thirty. It seems the matchmaking is virtually non existent in unranked, which is probably why there is that gap you stated between level thirties and ranked. I queued ranked not because i am cocky or that i think i am some sort of rank one, i queued it because i thought maybe i would be matched with players of equal skill. Obviously i found out the ugly way that this is very much not the case. So i have two choices; play ranked and get slandered because i am being way overmatched or play unranked and get slandered because i am being overmatched... So i keep getting slagged off, not learning anything about my champion, other champions or the game is general, my confidence is getting lower and lower and this is making me perform worse as the games go by. Unfortunately this game is just a no-go for new players, maybe Riot are aware of this issue, but from what i hear it's been like this for some time, and if it's been like this for some time they most likely won't change it.

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

League has been a pretty knowledge heavy game. But people on average don't know that much in comparison to someone that goes out of their way to know, so its a little easier than it looks.

Rare tip often not told to people for ranked: Don't look at your own match history. Don't look at your own match history. Don't look at your own match history. Don't look at your own match history. Don't look at your own match history.

Pick two roles that you believe you will be good at, that fit your style.

If you really don't like being bitched at as a preference... don't jungle. Seriously. Don't jungle. Ever. Its one of the worst possible roles for that. Even support is better because you can easily duo with someone who isn't a jerk for no reason.

I mean, just by asking questions you're avoiding hours of pain by learning jungle only to realize it is the worst role for you. That's kind of learning your role by knowing which role you aren't going to play. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Glowdust2 votes

I can see that you are one of "those guys" so im done talking to you. Irrationality is very common in league i see.

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

Right, anyway there's plenty of people out of game / out of these boards that would have a lot more to say about your kind of mindset.

The silence isn't the sound of you being right.

Glowdust2 votes

Keep on with your mind set. You will go far.

DPCHMD3 votes

Boards are equally toxic as ingame, they just pretend to be good people but are all equally morons

Azure Hamster2 votes

Go play some Counter-Strike. Then come back and bask in the glory of a good community.

Caitlyn

Gary B Enkelis2 votes

Use "I know you are but what am I?" or "I am rubber and you are glue."

Mister Punches2 votes

Sorry for the terrible experience, and I'd like to say that the community as a whole isn't toxic, but I don't want to sugarcoat it for you.

A good portion of this community is toxic, with a high portion of it being the Ranked part of this community. My advice? Mute them, play with friends, or play one of the more "fun" gametypes. The League community isn't "newbie" friendly at all, and your best bet to improve is to practice with friends rather than others.

Though, if you do manage to find a few diamonds in the rough, be sure to become friends with them, and learn from them. There are nice people in this game, though you have to actively go out and search for them if you want to find them.

Kemosabeeeee1 votes

I have come across some friendly players but like you say, they are few and far between. Thank you for your advice, the mute option sounds most appealing to me ;)

Mister Punches1 votes

To be honest, I have run into a couple of nice players in League, and when I mean a couple, I mean I can count them on one hand. I count nice as in someone who actively goes out of their way in the game to ask how someone is doing, how their life is, or something that strikes a good conversation. I've run into at most 3 people who were like that in my entire League career since 2011.

The rest are either neutral where they don't talk that much, or toxic. Sadly, the latter is much more common than the former.

Kemosabeeeee1 votes

Yeah, it's a shame that the community is like this because the game itself is really good, it's just ruined by the fact that the people who play it are hateful immature children. I have encountered some players who are quite good at the game but don't flame or do anything in chat, also there are those that are positive to begin with but then descend into being toxic because the others around them are looking for a scapegoat when they realize they most likely won't win the game.

Mister Punches1 votes

The community represents the game. The majority of the community from what I've experienced is toxic while the minority isn't, and the minority is trying really hard to show that League is a fun game.

I play many other games that involve direct player-to-player interaction, and those games are also fun because of the mechanics, much like League is. However, I find myself playing those games much more nowadays than League simply because the League community as a whole has been the sole factor for why I haven't been playing this game as often as my other games.

That, and this community has ended up giving me Stage 1 Hypertension from having no hypertension at all back in 2013. I recently got it down to prehypertension by spending less time in front of the computer screen playing League, spending more time going to the gym or playing less stressful games to make up for it, and in general, avoiding the League community ingame by muting everyone.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

yep now you have had your cherry popped welcome to league of assclowns

these instructional videos will help you along your way, please pay close attention:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXfEDkoy0Y4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOBb6KbX5AE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXJ_QsquRZ8

best of luck

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

DraygenBiscuit1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eQses1OM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-09-08T23:25:50.755+0000)

yep now you have had your cherry popped welcome to league of assclowns

these instructional videos will help you along your way, please pay close attention:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXfEDkoy0Y4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOBb6KbX5AE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXJ_QsquRZ8

best of luck

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

That last video is taken out of context and I take offence.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

really? really? you take offense to that? lol

its how most games are. you realize what you are around and your like ok keep firing

DraygenBiscuit1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eQses1OM,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-08T23:41:18.005+0000)

really? really? you take offense to that? lol

its how most games are. you realize what you are around and your like ok keep firing

No you are still taking it out of context. The people on the ship had the last name of Asshole, witch is why he said that. He wasn't directly calling them or not calling them actual assholes.

StarTorched1 votes

You'll eventually get better, but the most advice I could give you is add those who seem nice after you interact with them and hope they accept.

I would say play with me but according to some people I too, am toxic.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

lol we are all toxic to someone. whether or not you intended to be. there is a bit of over sensitivity to it and people crying wolf when it was just a puppy. but we all also need to consider how we treat and talk to each other.

StarTorched1 votes

Oh I mean, I'm probably considered pretty toxic by some standards (I tend to tease people and joke around). I don't really mean to be dickish, but it's all a matter of tolerance.

But honestly I just can't bring myself to give a shit if you get tilted and start flaming me for saying "lol rip you"

Telephone Booth1 votes

I'd play with ya and help you with the basics but I play late as hell, like 1am to 5am (I work nights)

Cyst1 votes

I love how people call others "toxic" which equivalent of calling them "cancer" and that some how is not the offensive part?

I swear "toxic" lyte infected too many people who can not think for themselves.

Wonderlands1 votes

It helps to mute them so you can pretend like they like you even if they're cussing their brains out ;)

CaliboySwag1 votes

To Be honest The Community is filled with Trolls A LOT OF TROLLS not Counting How many people who are Generally Toxic. Good explanation is how one of the most toxic people in League of legends, Tyler1 Got Popular so quick its because people can relate to him because those people themselves are toxic. Also another flaw in this game is the fact that these toxic Trolls go on to troll continuously do to the fact that riot doesn't do anything about it. Imo Do what ever you want just mute chat all the time your not going to meet anyone on league that has a Civil mind that in itself is like finding a Needle in a hay stack. You will run into people with EGO problems, Stoners, the classic rager who thinks he deserves a higher elo but makes the same mistakes every time and never learns, The shit Talker , Boosters, Scripters, and people like you if you want to get better at the game play normals for a while until you find two champions in two different lanes that you can do well with. you can play ranked since its normally better to play ranked to learn after you already practiced a few games in normal. Most normal games are people just playing to troll or who are banned from ranked games. when people start flaming mute them just drop the mute, mute your team only communication you need is pings. since people are easily triggered

MUSHROOM MIDGET1 votes

he's not a smurf. hes just silver 3. they start you in mid silver on new accounts for some reason. so new players get stomped pretty hard.

Kemosabeeeee2 votes

Pretty bad matchmaking then :L

MUSHROOM MIDGET1 votes

yeah. i think they are worried about smurfs coming up and crushing the players in bronze. but when real 1st account people jump into ranked its a terrible experience for them.

BlackSun71 votes

came back after 3 year . after my first game i remembered why i stop playing.

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