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I have been permanently banned, here is what I have to say

Feathersofsteel··10 votes·6,462 views

First of all, I want to apologize to anyone who was in the game that my perma ban chat log identifies.

Now, I will not, and I really cannot, defend the state of my chat behavior in League of Legends. I come off as a bitter and overly defensive individual, and as much as I have tried to avoid using language such as the 'R' word in chat since my 2-week ban in March, I obviously failed to control myself this time.

There are some rationalizations to my behavior, as I often only insult/cuss those who are either directly trolling/intentionally feeding/or are being toxic towards me. Particularly, the chat log and respective game that is cited in my permanent ban involved me jungling and cussing out a support player who was upset with our ADC. That support player decided it best after dying several times inside 5 minutes to begin trolling our ADC by leaving the lane, and me by following me around in my jungle, attempting to take camps, and making it difficult to gank lanes (I guess she blamed me too for not ganking).

Now that whole explanation is fine and dandy, but at the end of the day these rationalizations only make some sense of why I acted in these manners, and they do not justify or validate my behavior. In that game I filled the chat log with curse words, I believe I used the 'R' word once, and I used phrases such as "fragile piece of s***" or "trash human". The only consolation is that I did not use any violent or threatening speech, but I guess all things considered that is a small consolation in comparison to all the other things I chose to say.

Now, from my understanding the punishment system doesn't take into account only one or two games. However, I believe that only applies to accounts that are not already elevated in warning level. Since my ban two months ago I have made it to checkpoint 2/3 to get back to honor level 1, and I believe that I have generally been improving in chat. Obviously, if that was fully true I wouldn't be in this situation. However, I still believe there is some merit to my improvement, and that I can continue on a path to being a better teammate.

I have been playing League of Legends since 2011. I never received a chat/behavioral punishment between 2011 and 2017, however in 2018 I have gone from no infractions to banned within the course of several months. Obviously, some punishment is warranted, as I have genuinely degraded in my capacity to be a healthy member of the community and a respectful teammate.

Now, I am not asking to straight up be unbanned this instant. But, having been a member of the community for so long a time, and having invested probably more money than I should have on skins. I would like to at least have one more chance to become a strong and healthy member of the community once again. Whether that be in 1/2/6 or even 12 months from now. Or, maybe Riot still sees me as deserving of a permanent ban and I guess I will have to accept that.

Once again, I apologize to anyone who has been exposed to my extremely poor language and chatting behaviors. I have to accept that my toxic behavior has a negative impact on everyone on my team, not just those who I am frustrated with/or defending myself from. All I ask is that at the very least you consider what I have to say here.

38 Comments

Shukr4n3 votes

no

new account is da way

Feathersofsteel1 votes

I understand that point of view. But does a year ban not sound more reasonable given my long period of no-infractions? I am not saying you need to agree with me, I am just wondering your opinion on that particular point.

Meliodafu1 votes

Lol I literally just made a post praising the ban system but I do agree with you that perma ban is a bit much, it should go up in like 2 week increments with each infraction, unfortunately i highly doubt they unban your account because literally no one gets their acc unbanned. doesnt matter what, they have a "No tolerance" for a lot of things very much so on hate speeches. They wont do anything for you, it sucks man ive already vowed if this acc gets perma banned im quitting, i too have invested money and time in this acc, if it goes im going with it lol. but hey man good luck on the appeal hope it works out for ya

Feathersofsteel1 votes

Yeah, I am not holding out too much hope.

I'm not in the best place in my life emotionally, but I honestly feel like maybe letting go of League of Legends. In the past 6 months it feels like the amount of individuals who literally destroy games by intentionally feeding or trolling in other capacities has gone up considerably. Given my emotional state, at times I deal very poorly with these situations (which is obviously how I got banned). That's not to say that I don't deserve it some aspect, it just feels like Riot is more stringent with speech in game than they are with genuine non-competitive behavior. That said, toxic chatting is still serious so its not like it shouldn't be punished.

Shukr4n2 votes

as much as i can symphatize any user who show a margin of reforming in his thread wording, permanent bans are..permanent.

riot cant unban players when they ask because otherwise every banned player would feel entitled to ask the same.

the fact is, anyway, that these kind of thread appears ALWAYS after permabans.

u had chances to reform 3 ( T H R E E ) times before the permban. and u didnt feel to open such threaad or change attitude in that time. now that all is lost, it comes the shame and wil to change.

too easy

harsher lessons are needed for then ones who need them.

Feathersofsteel1 votes

Anyone who is banned already feels entitled to ask regardless (I mean here I am asking for it, and as you say people always make this kind of thread as soon as they are banned).

I don't understand where this three chances to reform part of your comment has come from? I was given a two-week ban in march for the first time, and I had never been chat restricted before. And now, here in mid-May I am given my second ban, which is a permanent one.

If I am counting, that means I have been given one direct chance after a punishment to improve. And to respond further, I didn't open a thread on my two-week ban because I still had the chance for recourse as you say. I made it to checkpoint 2/3 for honor level 1 so I cannot have been so bad in every game since March. But I lost it today, and I have been punished for it.

Additionally, I have stated several times that being instantly unbanned seems rather inappropriate given my behavior. I am asking for a sentence harsher than a 2-week ban, but I am asking for something more forgiving than a permanent ban.

Thee Pie Man1 votes

It's pretty rare you just get a flat two week ban, if that happened then they upgraded you past chat bans for your behavior which means (most likely) you probably did something exceedingly bad. The two week ban is basically an accelerated punishment for certain behaviors (including continual ones after chat restrictions.) and is basically your "final" warning. Where it will tell you essentially if you do anything that even falls into harassment you'll be perma'd on the spot.

I've been playing since 2009 and still have yet to get anything, if that point matters to you since you've brought it up multiple times that you believe it should grant you some leniency for good behavior. For all we know maybe the 14 day ban was leniency instead of straight up Perma'd. I can't even hazard a guess at what possibly sent you right into a 2 week before a perma. Regardless, if you really wish to reform and continue playing the game you can start a fresh slate with a new account. That's your options here, if you feel the ban is justified but want it to be more lenient yourself there's not much anyone can do.

Feathersofsteel2 votes

Fair enough.

I used hate-speech terms in several games leading into my two-week ban. Two games, one where I used racially charged language and one where I used the 'R' word several times were cited on that ban, but I had generally been toxic at that time. I agreed that the ban was deserved, and since that time I have avoided using those terms, but obviously I made a similar mistake again (Although I have not used racially charged language since).

As far as me bringing up my "long term" account status, I am simply talking about a period of time where I did not have any account punishments. It isn't a "I have tenure so I deserve leniency" argument, it is simply me pointing out that there is a lengthy period of time where I played the game without an infraction.

Finally, at the end of my post I stated that if Riot's final opinion on me is that I deserve to be permanently banned with no recourse I will accept it, I just wanted to open up a small line of discussion regarding it before moving on.

Thee Pie Man1 votes

That will do it. That's basically a "No tolerance" and definitely would put you 'in the dog house.' So much as sniff a slipper or jump onto the couch and you were basically carted off to the pound.

I do hope that you come back and try again, I know the environment isn't always the best at times but from what you're saying it seems likely you're genuinely interested in staying above those kind of behaviors. Take care and good job on staying more or less mellow/positive during this entire thing.

Most people that get banned go off like a rocket, which is basically indicative of their mental capacity in general, there's some that form logical arguments like yours but would get completely defensive if someone would say anything similar to the above and would basically call them out to be a "Riot's Fanboy" etc. I just enjoy the game and feel everyone should be treated in an equal fashion, to the point that protecting other people's feelings, it's something I want to do while playing. I want to make the game more positive and help people have more fun in the process. It's unfortunate that players have very little faith in other individuals. In my perspective if we all encouraged each other games would probably feel a lot better and it would make things even more enjoyable instead of "bitter wins despite x team mate" etc.

Feathersofsteel5 votes

I most likely will not come back and try again if this account is permanently banned. I have been playing on this account for a very long time, and I have invested a lot of money into it. Obviously, I should have been more motivated to exhibit better behavior given those facts, but alas I have failed myself, Riot, and most of all those who I have exposed my darker side to.

Given how poorly I act it is probably best for me to avoid an environment such as League of Legends, as it is obvious that I abuse the veil of anonymity that online gaming provides, particularly text chat. Honestly, I kind of think at this point that all the time and monetary investment I put in League became the primary factor as to why I continued playing the game. Obviously, enjoyment of the game-play or a desire to better my rank should come before that, so perhaps my attachment to the game had become unhealthy and toxic for myself.

This is actually part of why I think a long-term ban that is not permanent would work for me, as taking time away from the game will truly give me a chance to refresh my mindset more completely. Starting a new account without anything restricting me from playing the game in the near future doesn't seem appropriate, and will likely not result in any major improvements in my behavior.

I think the fact that I would rather have a complete refund than to get my account unbanned says something about where I am at the moment regarding League of Legends.

Thee Pie Man1 votes

Fair enough, I hope you can enjoy your time away and can find something even better to occupy your time. I want to express that I truly empathize with you when it comes to putting a lot of time and love into your account. I know how that is, wish it didn't have to end this way and I agree with your assessment of how it would benefit some, including yourself if it was more of a longer ban than a perma-ban. I don't like people not being able to play the game with the champions and things they earned, and playing under another name without choice can feel alienating I'm sure.

I wish you luck however, and hope that you will fare well.

Mordius2 votes

I've been leveling a new account for 7 months now, no infractions. I've asked Riot twice, with 3 months in between, if they would consider unbanning me given I have reformed.

Their answer: They will never remove a permaban. You can spend money on your new account, or you can stop playing all together. They legitimately do not care either way.

FurriesAreHot2 votes

They don’t care if you spend money on a new account. You’re right. Because their policies are set in stone, and they follow them. You get banned for being toxic, no amount of money will unban you.

Evertras2 votes

My Story is very similar.

I've been playing this game since 2010, gotten no restrictions until S8, finished S7 with Honor Level 4 and played in the Clash Beta.

My first offense was calling someone a "carrot f***ot" because that was a funny term in a discord we picked up. Not very appropiate, but he called me the N-Word beforehand, and got his punishment on the same game. Funnily enough I jumped every chat restriction and went into a 14 day ban instantly, which I thought was fair enough, I'll just reform and avoid chatting so much from now on.

Then a few weeks later I hit the worst loss streak I ever had, with people actively inting my games by running it down, contesting allied jungle camps, harassing me and others via chat and pings for a good amount of 10-15 games in a row. I called them "retards" 2 or 3 times (I've actively avoided the term lately but it has been in my vocabulary for a decade after all) because they triggered me so hard. The ban more or less came like a shock. I knew I wasn't the most positive in my recent games, but I didn't think I warranted a permanent ban from the game. What's more, I don't understand why there aren't more warnings before they basically give your Account the death sentence. It wouldn't really lose you anything. Just a small notice to help people keep in line. Even if you were banned recently, the game gets you worked up constantly. You forget that you're on the list.

I'm very competitive, I try my hardest every game and to be constantly provoked and actively inted on just sparks something in me bordering on homicidal tendencies. Yet these people make it a sport to dodge the system, even if it is fairly obvious that they're trolling for the hell of it after they already threw their chances of winning lane for example even though games are still easily winnable. They made my League experience so incredibly miserable that I got the account that I'm emotionally invested in (I made a lot of my current friends through League and played it with all of my friends of olden days basically) permabanned.

I've been struggling with anger issues all my life and am currently looking into therapy because it's not just eating at my League account, it's actually been destroying my social and real life for a good while now. And while I'm looking to improve my life, the big shadow that is the unlikelyness of ever getting my Account back really eats at me. Circumstances don't matter. Context is not important. It doesn't seem to be that way because it is the right choice but because it is the easiest choice.

It's sad. I'd be willing to fight for this relationship. But it doesn't seem like Riot would do the same. It feels like they don't care.

I was banned for words. Not getting chat restricted for it first but thrown out in a 1-2 Month timespan. Completely ignoring all the years I've spent, all the good moments I had with others in this game. They'd throw it all away. They don't care about me. That's why they showed me the door. You could argue, of course it's my sole responsibility to keep in check. But sometimes it's hard to do. In struggling times, some things happen. These times you try to rely on your friends. I thought Riot was that good friend. A friend would constantly remind you of your errors. Keep you in line as much as he could before something terrible happens. This? Feels more like they neglected me and let me run firsthand into it.

While I had a good time with League for a fair amount of the last 10 years, I have to say I can't go back to making a new account. I miss the old one too much, I can't get over it. I hate being automatically be banned for human interaction without some sort of human interaction at all. Playing on a new Account just constantly reminds me of it. Thus this doesn't just mark the end of the line for my Account, but possibly every spark I had left to play this game.

I'm not even looking particularily for an Unban, I completely agree with OP. Ban people for a longer period of time. Give more warnings. There are plenty of cases where discussion isn't necessary, but quite few of them really need it. Even if it is to just get over it.

All I'm actually looking for is a little human interaction. A response. Maybe a change in the system. Not a card that basically only shows me the door.

Kaioko2 votes

You had me until you brought up the fact that you've spent "more money that I should have on skins." Pity is out the window -- my suggestions to you is figure out why your behavior has changed so much from where it was back in 2011-2017.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Bruh, it was a minor point in the second to last paragraph. They obviously weren't using the statement to seek pity, or they would have said it earlier. I think you're wrong to go after them for saying it in the way that they said it. It's not the same as those belligerent individuals who genuinely think they've done nothing wrong.

Kaioko2 votes

Perhaps so but that statement just hit me the wrong way especially as someone whose been playing the game since longer than 2011.

Ultimately what I think hardly matters -- the account won't be unbanned. If he truly loves the game and feels regretful for what he's done; he will just make a new one. Again though I think he should identify WHY his behavior has changed.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

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Perhaps so but that statement just hit me the wrong way especially as someone whose been playing the game since longer than 2011.

Ultimately what I think hardly matters -- the account won't be unbanned. If he truly loves the game and feels regretful for what he's done; he will just make a new one. Again though I think he should identify WHY his behavior has changed.

I respect that, just please try to be a little kinder to strangers. It's best to give them the opportunity to acknowledge fault or at least defend their word choice before launching into them.

Kaioko2 votes

If you think my post was mean you probably should get off the internet. After reading your suggestion; if he sent this to Riot they would laugh at him and then write a well composed message of "I'm sorry bans are permanent, deal with it."

Rather than lead someone with something that is not going to be useful (you think support is the one that actually makes decisions on the reform/punishment system?), I find it more useful to be blunt and honest. He needs to figure out why his behavior changed because it sounds like a personal life problem.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

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If you think my post was mean you probably should get off the internet.

It wasn't about being mean, it was about misreading something and then blasting somebody for no good reason.

After reading your suggestion; if he sent this to Riot they would laugh at him and then write a well composed message of "I'm sorry bans are permanent, deal with it."

Do you know they would laugh? That seems unlikely. Do you have insight into the working environment of the support team?

Rather than lead someone with something that is not going to be useful (you think support is the one that actually makes decisions on the reform/punishment system?), I find it more useful to be blunt and honest. He needs to figure out why his behavior changed because it sounds like a personal life problem.

It seems we both agree that an individual should seek to understand why they have a problem, which is why I cannot fathom why you refuse to do so for yourself. You misinterpreted the OP. That's the problem here, not the OP's behavior, nor is it me for telling you that you overdid it.

BladeSteel1 votes

When you see something enough, you end up laughing at it because of how dumb some people are. I'm not saying they'd laugh in this case, but from personal experience working in a customer support area and constantly getting people threatening to sue or cancel their services when they haven't paid anything and are shut off and you won't restore them without paying... you just have to laugh at them. And I mean it's the same kind of situation here. They didn't obey the rules so their services got taken away and if it's justified and they write in saying " I got permabanned for telling someone to kill themselves unban me or I'll sue" you bet they're going to laugh. Once again in this case maybe not but they will in most idiotic cases like the example I gave.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

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When you see something enough, you end up laughing at it because of how dumb some people are. I'm not saying they'd laugh in this case, but from personal experience working in a customer support area and constantly getting people threatening to sue or cancel their services when they haven't paid anything and are shut off and you won't restore them without paying... you just have to laugh at them. And I mean it's the same kind of situation here. They didn't obey the rules so their services got taken away and if it's justified and they write in saying " I got permabanned for telling someone to kill themselves unban me or I'll sue" you bet they're going to laugh. Once again in this case maybe not but they will in most idiotic cases like the example I gave.

Except that the OP here never said that they would sue. That never came up in discussion. You're misattributing that sort of belligerent behavior to the OP when they have not once indicated that they at all think that way.

Go find someone who's actually belligerent and demanding to insult. The OP here didn't deserve to be treated the way Kaioko treated them with their comment.

BladeSteel1 votes

As you said earlier,

It wasn't about being mean, it was about misreading something and then blasting somebody for no good reason.

Stop misrepresenting me and what I said. You didn't even read what I said, and if you did you didn't comprehend. Right now you are just being a hypocrite. I was just replying to your statement "Do you know they would laugh? That seems unlikely. Do you have insight into the working environment of the support team?" Yes, they would laugh a lot at things that people send in, but did I say they would laugh at the OP? If I did say that I'd like you to quote me and not misrepresent me.

Listen to your own advice and don't be a hypocrite.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

{quoted}

As you said earlier,

Stop misrepresenting me and what I said. You didn't even read what I said, and if you did you didn't comprehend. Right now you are just being a hypocrite. I was just replying to your statement "Do you know they would laugh? That seems unlikely. Do you have insight into the working environment of the support team?" Yes, they would laugh a lot at things that people send in, but did I say they would laugh at the OP? If I did say that I'd like you to quote me and not misrepresent me.

Listen to your own advice and don't be a hypocrite.

I'm confused, are you Kaioko? or are you speaking on their behalf?

I never said that you said that, I said that Kaioko said that, and they did:

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-snip- if he sent this to Riot they would laugh at him and then write a well composed message of "I'm sorry bans are permanent, deal with it." -snip-

So no, I'm not just blasting somebody for no good reason. I'm speaking against something which somebody absolutely did do. next time if you want to call someone a hypocrite you'd better make sure you're being accurate about it.

BladeSteel1 votes

You said I did. You said "Except that the OP here never said that they would sue. That never came up in discussion. You're misattributing that sort of belligerent behavior to the OP when they have not once indicated that they at all think that way." When replying TO ME. Pay attention and read. I didn't reply on their behalf or reply as him, I replied to your comment of "how do you know they laugh" when I say "they do laugh 100% guaranteed, maybe not at this specific case, but at other ones", Then you blew up on me, misrepresenting me and saying that I was misattributing that behavior to the op when I never said that. Stop being a hypocrite and do what you preach. I've seen you here continually preaching the same stuff when you don't even follow it.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

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You said I did. You said "Except that the OP here never said that they would sue. That never came up in discussion. You're misattributing that sort of belligerent behavior to the OP when they have not once indicated that they at all think that way." When replying TO ME. Pay attention and read. I didn't reply on their behalf or reply as him, I replied to your comment of "how do you know they laugh" when I say "they do laugh 100% guaranteed, maybe not at this specific case, but at other ones", Then you blew up on me, misrepresenting me and saying that I was misattributing that behavior to the op when I never said that. Stop being a hypocrite and do what you preach. I've seen you here continually preaching the same stuff when you don't even follow it.

Well you said that you were replying to what I said that they had said, you even quoted it saying you were replying to that. I'm thoroughly confused about that now.

Anyways, I think I see what you're referring to now. The thing about suing. It was implicit in the argument you made, paraphrased: "people who interact with support agents are always threatening to sue so support agents laugh at them." That example was irrelevant to the discussion at hand because the OP never threatened to sue. If you didn't want me to be confused then you shouldn't have brought a confusing example into the discussion.

I'm sorry for my part in the confusion.

BladeSteel1 votes

And you replying to that person gave nothing to the conversation at hand either. So get off your high horse and stop talking down to people. You continually look for people who "misrepresent" people here on the boards to start attacking them for no reason. There was no reason to start talking down to someone for a comment, nor a reason to start talking down to me. Look at yourself before looking at others.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

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And you replying to that person gave nothing to the conversation at hand either. So get off your high horse and stop talking down to people. You continually look for people who "misrepresent" people here on the boards to start attacking them for no reason. There was no reason to start talking down to someone for a comment, nor a reason to start talking down to me. Look at yourself before looking at others.

Misrepresentation of people is reason enough, when it's done in a harassing manner. So no, it's not for no reason.

I already am looking at myself, just because I'm working on myself doesn't mean I cannot continue to stand up for people when they need it.

Bug off, this has nothing to do with you, and you obviously just have a problem with me. We're done here.

BladeSteel1 votes

Don't bother with him anymore, he is continually on the lookout on the boards to slam people for not being nice.

PLS GÓD NÓ1 votes

Riot doesn't unban, very rare for them to do so. Begging will get you nowhere, you had previous infractions now you are paying the price for not listening and changing the way to talk/speak/play. good to see another rule breaker gone

Feathersofsteel2 votes

The fact that you are saying "previous infractions" in plural and claim that I am begging to be unbanned tells me you didn't actually read my post.

Your comment at this point is simply more affirmation that maybe me being banned and leaving a community infested by a minority subset but still significant group of ignorant and reactionary individuals is better for me.

This post is more of a cathartic attempt at understanding my ban. My appeal ticket at this point is closed, so I essentially have played my last ever league of legends game.

My actions were bannable, and I have been punished. Thats all there is to my status. I am here because I have played League since 2011 and I needed to find a way to vent as that part of my life goes away.

League suffers from a structural issue that stems from Riots player punishment. Riot relies heavily on their automated systems, of which there are two major ones. The first is Leaverbuster, and the second is the chat/report related algorithm that resulted in my ban.

Griefing doesn't get picked up by an automated system, so it is punished far less swiftly, and far less frequently.

Riot enjoys explaining away the phenomenon of griefing using a "negativity bias" argument, claiming that because negative experiences are more memorable, players who state that griefing behaviors are frequently encountered in their games are always overstating.

I contributed to the toxic part of League in the end, but griefing has been a constant and significant issue the whole while I played LoL. It's fitting that my permanent ban cites my last game where I cussed out someone doing that exact thing.

PLS GÓD NÓ1 votes

You are basically begging for closure. You came to vent your frustration on the forums, to tell other people how or why you got banned and how long you've played etc. No one cares.

League suffers from a lot but you are one person and flaming ur team8s or being toxic isnt going to change a thing. Hopefully by now you've realized that. 7 years of playing should of taught you being disrespectful will get you banned.

Bottom line rules are rules. End of discussion. Even now you are "insta-triggered" I'm willing to bet this is exactly the type of behavior that got you to where you are now.

Be quiet and play. Mouthing off gets you nowhere. You actually believe flaming people on a game is the solution. Get help.

Feathersofsteel2 votes

What the fuck? Are you reading any ofy comments or posts?

Crimbus Jones1 votes

{quoted}

What the fuck? Are you reading any ofy comments or posts?

Don't let them get to you bro, they are sycophants. I read your post and I agree with you. Even if you called someone the N word, Riot has betrayed you by rewarding your years of gameplay and dedication with a two step warning permanent ban. Permanent. As in, when you are seventy-years-old on your death bed and you want to reminisce of your child hood you still can't play your damn account because they know how toxic their game is and want to incentivize people getting banned so they come back and have to buy all their stuff again. That's why they are one of the richest game producers of all time.

Their game is good, but they are better businessmen than game designers. They have billions of players dedicating years of their life and literal hundreds of dollars to their game and they could give a single fuck if a singular player like yourself could reform. If they did, they'd offer a PERMANENT MUTE solution to people who SOLELY have CHAT RELATED PROBLEMS. And here lies the fundamental hypocrisy/idiocy of their system: they punish people for using their comms worse than they punish people for ruining games.

P.S. you can check my threads for what they permabanned me for, it's even more hilarious. I didn't even bother trying to get it back. I was going to submit a ticket but what's the f$@$( point man? I'll just keep making more accounts and get more and more salty because that's what Riot incentives. Not reformation, but repayment.... to their wallets.

R.I.P Chakras 2009 - 2018 (got reported three times)

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Yo dude this was really well written and the humility you display in writing it is really touching.

I'm not being sarcastic.

I think that you should try and submit this in a support ticket, to hopefully get Riot to look at things. They probably won't lift your ban, but you might be able to push them to make changes to how the system works to make it more fair in the future for people like yourself who acknowledge fault and who go many games between their outbursts.

And I totally understand being upset with players who troll or who act rude in chat. Taking it out on them is still inexcusable, but that frustration you felt is still valid. Best of luck in the future, I'm sorry that you wound up in this circumstance.

Dr Cat Pooch1 votes

Things that matter:

-You were toxic enough or enough times that people reported you.

Things that DON'T matter:

-Your teammate/the enemy was feeding. -Your teammate/the enemy was toxic. -You were having a bad day. -You were only responding. -You played this game for 6-7 years. -You spent money on this game.

Honestly, you used one of the big bads, and you had just gotten off a 2 week like 2 months ago. If your first punishment was a two week, then it had to have been something bad. There is a normal progression that they skipped because what you did in the games that got you the 2 wk was so bad, 10 and 25 game chat restrictions were not appropriately harsh enough.

The biggest issue with your reasoning here is that you try to claim that other people "make" you flame. Unless that person is behind you back, making you press the buttons on your keyboard, no one is making you do anything. This is why Riot punishes those who are "only defending themselves". Take responsibility for the negativity and flame that you added to the game. You yourself admit that you filled the logs with curse words, including slurs against mentally disabled people.

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