If you're chat restricted for the first time in preseason will it affect the upcoming season rewards? I admit what I've said was uncalled for and offensive and I deserved my punishment. I'm just wondering because usually I am a nice person in games it's just this game I lost my temper and offended people.
RiotSlumber Jack9 votesThis early on, just make sure the punishments don't escalate (ie you make an honest go at reformation) and you should be fine for season rewards. However, in the future we'll be restricting access to other rewards/gifts that happen throughout the season for the more recently punished, so just keep that in mind.
themachamp2 votes[{quoted}](name=Slumber Jack,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dsQoAnEa,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-12-24T19:47:09.420+0000)
This early on, just make sure the punishments don't escalate (ie you make an honest go at reformation) and you should be fine for season rewards. However, in the future we'll be restricting access to other rewards/gifts that happen throughout the season for the more recently punished, so just keep that in mind.
So the false reporters get even more power to bully people in the future lmao.
DrCyanide14 votesFalse reports are still thrown out, and false reporters are still devalued by the system, so not really.
If false reporting worked like people claimed, the entire community would be permabanned by now.
themachamp1 votesFalse reports are still thrown out, and false reporters are still devalued by the system, so not really.
If false reporting worked like people claimed, the entire community would be permabanned by now.
They claim they do....but at the end of the day no one truly knows for sure lol. Anyways, I was referring to the in game bullying like "if you dont this, imma ask everyone to report you and you will lose rewards" etc.
Lonely Flame1 votesIt doesn't matter if 1 person reports you or 100 people report you after 1 game. It is the frequency in which you are reported. Getting reported adds a flag to your account, and then it starts to track how frequently after that you get reported ie 10 games till another report comes in. This is so that situations like you described don't effect you.
Twiggles1 votesThreatening reports is a punishable offense in and of itself. Just mute them and report if they try that. As long as you didn't say/do anything punishable, they will be the only ones at risk.
DeynaTaggerung2 votesActually that doesn't matter. Riot's system doesn't just count reports and hand out a ban whenever you've gotten a certain number. Reports are just a flag for their AI to look into that game and check for anything matching the reports. If they don't find anything, then nothing is counted against you. I don't think Riot had a team of people spend months working on a system that counted up reports and handed out bans. They could do that in 15 minutes.
Chaos6892 votesNot true, noone knows the criteria, you might get banned for something as mild as saying "my ashe is afeeder" i mean...
Sythriel Draken1 votesThis is not true. If this were true then false reports wouldn't pop up a warning on your end like they do now. As a player trying to reform, getting a false warning on my account just keeps flagging it to be looked at after every game.
Example: Only thing I said the whole game was "Jungle" in the pre game lobby, end of the game "You've been reported for offensive language" Now, unless calling your lane in the pre game blind draft lobby is offensive now, that report should have been thrown out and no pop up even given. I'm now scared to even joke with people or saying things like "fuck me" when I make a mistake. Hell, I was reported one game last night for saying "my bad" after I miscalculated a gank.
Until Riot actually sits down and fixes these false reports to not even show up on your client, then I have no faith that they will implement a fair system for their rewards.
DrCyanide2 votesThis is not true. If this were true then false reports wouldn't pop up a warning on your end like they do now.
The timing of the pop up is in line with what Riot has said about prompt feedback. As such, it has nothing to do with false reports being counted or not.
The pop up is a warning that you've been reported a lot recently. It takes next to no processing time from the servers to figure it out, so the warning can come immediately. If you've been acting out, you change. If not, you ignore it. Either way, you queue up for the next game.
Meanwhile, the Server goes and processes your chat log for that game. It has to run that game through whatever language processing Riot has and evaluate it. This can take several minutes, by which point you're likely in another game. If Riot showed you the warning after they had confirmed an offense, it wouldn't be for the game you were just leaving, resulting in a false sense of what you did wrong, so they stick with the two phase system.
We know that the server doesn't process things instantly because of the feedback for the player doing the reporting, which often comes a few minutes after the game ended. If Riot didn't discount false reports, then the feedback for the reporter would be almost instantaneous.
Myrmiron1 votesWait... don't only 14 day bans and ACTIVE chat restrictions disqualify you anyways? So, he should be save as long as he manages to finish the 14 games by the end of the season amirite?
RiotSlumber Jack4 votesYou're thinking of season reward eligibility. Reward eligibility is not static for everything, and is still TBD as far as execution on our end is concerned.
Simply put, don't get punished like an overwhelming majority of the playerbase and you'll get rewards. Fixing grammar. An overwhelming majority of the playerbase never receives any kind of punishment. Punishable offences are way outside of the ordinary, and so long as you're behaving like the majority of our playerbase -- ie not getting punished -- you'll be fine.
TrulyBland2 votes[{quoted}](name=Slumber Jack,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dsQoAnEa,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2016-01-01T02:12:03.165+0000)
You're thinking of season reward eligibility. Reward eligibility is not static for everything, and is still TBD as far as execution on our end is concerned.
Simply put, don't get punished like an overwhelming majority of the playerbase and you'll get rewards.
I feel like with the current paranoia about how "easy" it is to get punished by the current system, your statement seems a bit ambiguous. But I'll just hope what you're trying to say is that an overwhelming majority of the playerbase is not punished, and we all should try to be like them :)
themachamp1 votesI feel like with the current paranoia about how "easy" it is to get punished by the current system, your statement seems a bit ambiguous. But I'll just hope what you're trying to say is that an overwhelming majority of the playerbase is not punished, and we all should try to be like them :)
Well, the "overwhelming majority" also includes people who only play like 2x a month, people who have been afk from the game for like 6+ months, people who only do bots, people who only do arams, etc. Of course they would probably never see a punishment lol. Now if they only looked at ranked players for example, that "overwhelming majority" would probably decrease quite a bit.
I do agree that the system is far to aggressive and it is far easier to get punished than ever before. It can also escalates before you even get a chance to finish your 1st punishemt and uses the same games for more than 1 punishment. =/
themachamp1 votes[{quoted}](name=Slumber Jack,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dsQoAnEa,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-12-24T19:47:09.420+0000)
This early on, just make sure the punishments don't escalate (ie you make an honest go at reformation) and you should be fine for season rewards. However, in the future we'll be restricting access to other rewards/gifts that happen throughout the season for the more recently punished, so just keep that in mind.
So why do you keep punishing the punished?
ex: A player gets a 10 game chat restrict in May....2 months later riot hands out free skins( for a player tank you or w/e the case maybe) except for players that had chat restrictions, suspensions in the last 4 months. Why do that? The players already completed their punishments, why not just let them be instead of keeping the pain train on them? Continuous punishments after serving the initial punishment is a bit extreme, isn't it? Wouldn't it just make the players more spiteful and more toxic knowing that after they serve their "term" they still keep getting punished?
RiotSlumber Jack4 votesWe would love to give players the benefit of the doubt and assume they're reformed after playing just 10 games of chat restrictions... but regardless of how many we give them, we don't know if they're actually being intentional about their reform or if they still have the same amount of potential to create player harm.
The chat restrictions in themselves, while a punishment, are mostly meant to just serve as a tool to educate and push a player in the initial correct direction. Playing through them != reform; it just helps a strong majority of players get there.
Razorofpow1 votesIs Riot planning on bringing Tribunal back so fellow players can weigh in on ban decisions and such? Also is Riot planning on doing anything more on the up-rise of bots in ARAM? I just played a game where me and 1 other player were actual humans. I know this isn't the place to ask, and I may be hijacking a post; but it seems others have asked these very questions with no results on answers.
themachamp1 votesIs Riot planning on bringing Tribunal back so fellow players can weigh in on ban decisions and such? Also is Riot planning on doing anything more on the up-rise of bots in ARAM? I just played a game where me and 1 other player were actual humans. I know this isn't the place to ask, and I may be hijacking a post; but it seems others have asked these very questions with no results on answers.
Tribunal has been down for over a year, its being replaced with robots atm, It's suppose to come back one day....but they will probably scrap it imo, That way they can use the automated system.
For your 2nd point....of course you are seeing more bots than ever. It stems from riots new and "improved" player behavior system. It take 2-5 months to get from 1-30 depending on how much you can play. You also have to grind out IP for runes and champs....granted you can buy champs but runes are a nightmare. With all of the bannings going on now, many people will just buy a new account unranked lvl 30 acct than go through the grind. It's not a unique problem to league though, lots of games have it. So the bots are their farming ip so that someone will eventually buy a fresh lvl 30 acct. Riot would rather fight the bots than address the underlying issues. AKA...too many banned accounts and the tedious climb from lvl 1-30.
RiotSlumber Jack2 votesWe'll be prioritising the voting system once we've finished rolling out new champion select to everyone and to all queues.
NVDax1 votes[{quoted}](name=Slumber Jack,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dsQoAnEa,comment-id=00040002000000000001,timestamp=2016-01-04T20:38:09.456+0000)
We'll be prioritising the voting system once we've finished rolling out new champion select to everyone and to all queues.
So Soon(tm)?
Kürama1 votesEveryone and to all queues.
Alternate map players feel warm with this. <3
Godjinx2 votesSweet, I would of been disappointed that I screwed myself for the the year due to my immaturity.
Deep Terror Nami1 votesKeep in mind that each successive punishment is worse;
It doesn't sound like you'll get any more punishments, but if you do, they can lead right up to a permaban no matter how mild the offenses were. It takes 3 months for the next punishment to drop one tier.
nerak232 votesExample: Only thing I said the whole game was "Jungle" in the pre game lobby, end of the game "You've been reported for offensive language"
If you got reported for saying only the above as you claim then the report was deserved by LOL standards and you could be in for a punishment...You are not supposed to be posting "reported" this is a threat and should be treated as such.
You may not think of it as such but many people consider this and are influenced by comments like this...just report the person, no need to inform them that you plan to report as this influences others opinions. Besides that why bother ? Just report if you feel you should ! Childish to cry I'm going to report you "na na ha ha" just report and move on.
ModAttysu The Poro1 votesI don't believe so. :P
PIMPSMOOTH1 votesNot yet.
Deep Terror Nami1 votesThe rules for 2015 were that if you had a chat restriction active when the season ended then you were ineligible, or if you had a ban in the last 3 months of the season or had an MMR Boosting ban that season at any time.
It should be safe to assume the rules will be identical or very similar. You're ok.
LilQuacker1 votesThat was a lie
Deep Terror Nami1 votesHow so?
LilQuacker1 votesThere was this 1 guy who met the criteria and got nothing but coal*[zombie-nunu-tears]*
Deep Terror Nami3 votesIn rare cases a mistake could be made with the rewards. If it was a mistake he could submit a Support Ticket to have them fix it.
Most likely he simply did not meet the criteria and didn't realize it. Player Support could still tell him why.
Hello I am Bird1 votesYo you serious xD
DeynaTaggerung1 votesWell they did that last season because they changed the way their system handed out bans 3 months before the end of the season and didn't want to penalize people who got banned under the old rules. It might be for the entire season this year...or it could be the same, hard to say.
Deep Terror Nami1 votesThe way Lyte speaks about it, the way it's handled should be similar enough that there's no way this could hurt him. A preseason chat restriction harming your next season rewards would be so insanely different and harsh that I would quit LoL before considering that might happen :3
But yes, it's still just speculation. As much as I want to state it as fact, anything can happen.
DeynaTaggerung1 votesYeah, this far back he's definitely in the clear
themachamp1 votes^