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The most unjustified ban of all time

homeworkfairy··1 votes·806 views

Background: I'm playing Tristana bot lane; my "support" picks Teemo. Game starts and we arrive in bot lane. The two enemy laners are sitting in the brush just inside the entrance to the river; my "support" walks into them and tries to fight them. I don't go to help him because I assumed he would run away after realizing he can't fight two people at level 1 by himself, but he doesn't and dies. Immediately after this, he starts spamming question mark pings on me, which I promptly muted, then he types something along the lines of: "Trist is trolling." I ignore this as I don't consider him suiciding to two people and me not helping him as trolling and I try to play the game. My "support" comes back to lane and walks at the enemies autoing them and running into their abilities, obviously dying. He does this for a some time, all the while claiming that I'm trolling him. This infuriates me, as he keeps saying statements like: "It's a shame this Trist is trolling, we could have won this game."

Any response in my chat log that is deemed 'toxic" by anyone was directed at these statements. He also asked everyone to report me for trolling at least one time in game, and at least another in the post game lobby.

He ended the game 3 and 17, and my mid laner ended 3 and 10, but I'm the one reported and banned after ONE game of having the worst kind of player anyone could imagine playing with. The fact that this guy is allowed to keep playing, but I get banned for getting pissed off at him for ruining the game is utter bullshit. I'm not accepting this ban; how can someone not get pissed off at this?

Here is a link to that match: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2590516249/36450837?tab=overview

I'll await anyone claiming I trolled by trying to actually play the game with a potentially inting mid laner and inting support.

Here is my log: Game 1 homeworkfairy: i dont know what he expected homeworkfairy: this game is over homeworkfairy: he's inting] homeworkfairy: report teemo homeworkfairy: what? homeworkfairy: he's just going to keep feeding homeworkfairy: and claim im trolling homeworkfairy: HE IS TROLLING homeworkfairy: can you all help me get this teemo banned? homeworkfairy: fuck homeworkfairy: you homeworkfairy: teemo homeworkfairy: you're a fucking loser homeworkfairy: i cant do anyting homeworkfairy: im BEHIND homeworkfairy: there was 2 of them homeworkfairy: i cant help you homeworkfairy: whjen you are almost dead homeworkfairy: dont know what you mean homeworkfairy: he suicided at level 1 homeworkfairy: and i didnty help him homeworkfairy: so im trolling homeworkfairy: makes sense homeworkfairy: that's his logic homeworkfairy: he's a baby homeworkfairy: that's it homeworkfairy: so glad i got this team homeworkfairy: THIS TEAM homeworkfairy: and not any other team homeworkfairy: im glad i got THIS ONE homeworkfairy: of ALL players homeworkfairy: i get THIS TEAM homeworkfairy: and i COULDNT be happier homeworkfairy: im not going to dignify that a response, teemo homeworkfairy: go fuck yourself homeworkfairy: i dont get you're fucking problem homeworkfairy: you're the fucking moron homeworkfairy: enjoy hardstuck silver, moron homeworkfairy: you fucking amateur

61 Comments

ModThe Djinn8 votes

So first what you want to hear: trolling and/or intentionally feeding is not acceptable, and should be punished. I'm not defending your teammates actions here in any way.

THAT SAID, there are ways it's okay to express anger and ways it is not okay. Once your chat stoops to the level of harassment, abuse, or insults, you have crossed a line and opened yourself up to deserved punishment. Nothing is gained by calling him trash, or a moron, or an amateur, or a loser. Nothing is gained by spending then entire chat ranting about him. All that is is harassment, and all that means is that there are now TWO toxic players everyone else has to put up with.

homeworkfairy2 votes

You are defending his actions if you think I deserved to be banned for him ruining the game for us all. I wasn't "toxic" until his 5th intentional death. Up until then, I had asked my team and the enemy team to get him banned. Then as I got angrier at him, people started to empathize with him, I guess. Apparently he was the victim, and you agree with that statement, regardless of what you say. You don't put ruining the game and being "inflammatory" on the same level; being inflammatory is worse than feeding to you.

and all that means is that there are now TWO toxic players everyone else has to put up with.

Nobody was "putting up" with me. Our jungler thought I was trolling him, too, and wouldn't shut up about it. Our mid laner never spoke, and I can't remember if top lane did, either. The game was over by the 5 minute mark; I don't think people gave a shit about me distracting them with "toxicity."

All that is is harassment

I rest my case. I was "harassing" him and he was the "innocent victim." You can try to deny it any way you want, but you think he doesn't deserve punishment, and mine was unequivocally justified.

ModThe Djinn9 votes

I think you misunderstand: it is fully possible to harass someone without them being an innocent victim. Your teammate did something awful that merits punishment by ruining your game, but that doesn't exempt you from behavioral expectations not to insult or harass him.

He is not innocent in this scenario, but there is also no acceptable reason to insult or harass another player.

In short, you are not punished for him ruining the game for you. You were punished for your decision in how to respond to him ruining the game.

homeworkfairy2 votes

it is fully possible to harass someone without them being an innocent victim

It isn't harassment, then. You saying I harassed him is you saying he was an innocent victim that I harassed.

Your teammate did something that merits punishment awful by ruining your game

Why are you typing something you clearly don't believe in? Why be a hypocrite?

He is not innocent in this scenario

Why do you keep claiming he is, then?

but there is also no acceptable reason to insult or harass another player.

Why?

In short, you are not punished for him ruining the game for you.

No, I was punished for him ruining the game for me. Why else would I be banned? He ruins the game, and I am punished for being angry about him ruining the game.

You were punished for your decision in how to respond to him ruining the game.

Next time I'll be sure to kiss his ass and relent harsh criticism next time I see another feeding player ruining the game for me. I'll be sure to gift him RP and skins, too, since I don't want to "harass" him and get banned. He earned those gifts and praise, after all.

ModPrandine3 votes

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It isn't harassment, then. You saying I harassed him is you saying he was an innocent victim that I harassed.

Harassment is harassment. It doesn't matter if he was also behaving poorly, that doesn't give you a free pass to behave poorly as well.

Why are you typing something you clearly don't believe in? Why be a hypocrite?

He's not being a hypocrite. He said and I quote:

So first what you want to hear: trolling and/or intentionally feeding is not acceptable, and should be punished. I'm not defending your teammates actions here in any way.

THAT SAID, there are ways it's okay to express anger and ways it is not okay. Once your chat stoops to the level of harassment, abuse, or insults, you have crossed a line and opened yourself up to deserved punishment.

Again this is not him being a hypocrite, this is him saying that both you and Teemo were in the wrong here.

Why do you keep claiming he is, then?

He's not and never did. What Teemo did warrants a ban, but understand that two wrongs don't make a right. In other words one persons poor actions doesn't give you a "get out of jail free" card if you choose to behave that way as well.

Why?

Because now your teammates are forced to put up with two poor behaving players instead of just one. They're forced to put up with Teemos trolling and your raging and flaming in the chat.

No, I was punished for him ruining the game for me. Why else would I be banned? He ruins the game, and I am punished for being angry about him ruining the game.

You cannot be punished for something you did not do. You were punished based on your actions alone, which you should know by now considering you've been punished many times before this.

Next time I'll be sure to kiss his ass and relent harsh criticism next time I see another feeding player ruining the game for me. I'll be sure to gift him RP and skins, too, since I don't want to "harass" him and get banned. He earned those gifts and praise, after all.

You don't have to be nice to those players, but raging and flaming at them is not gonna stop them from ruining the game for everyone. In fact, more often than not it will encourage them to continue on with their poor behavior rather than stop it. Not only that but you force your other teammates to put up with your behavior as well as the original troll. If you don't give them the negative reaction that they want then chances are they'll stop acting up and start playing normally.

Yes trolls are annoying and yes they are a problem and yes they do get punished with a ban when caught. That said, no that does not mean you can stoop down to their level and get a free pass just because they started it. If you must rage then do so at the screen instead of in chat. This way you don't get punished for what you say in chat.

At this point you have multiple posts from people trying to help you out, so you have two options here.

  1. You can stick your head in the sand and keep pretending that you've done nothing wrong and keep getting punished because of it.
  2. You can listen to the people trying to help you and improve your behavior for the better and work to not get punished again.

The choice is up to you and you alone.

homeworkfairy1 votes

That Teemo was never banned, look at his account. He played another game after that one. According to Riot, he doesn't deserve a ban. He was in the right. After all, he just had a bad game.

I was punished for assaulting him, and only him, but he is able to ruin games and get away with it.

If you think this is fine, I'm done speaking with you. You are in the wrong and I'm not going to bother seeing you try to convince me that I'm still in the wrong. You can go fuck yourself.

IcyPepper2 votes

If you think this is fine, I'm done speaking with you. You are in the wrong and I'm not going to bother seeing you try to convince me that I'm still in the wrong. You can go fuck yourself.

People are trying to help you.

You can go fuck yourself

That's not something you say to someone who is actively trying to help you. This attitude is why you got banned.

ModPrandine1 votes

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That Teemo was never banned, look at his account. He played another game after that one. According to Riot, he doesn't deserve a ban. He was in the right. After all, he just had a bad game.

Gameplay trolling is harder to detect and prove than simple chat related offenses are. Why? Because the system has to make sure that they are legitimately trolling and not just having a bad game. This does mean that gameplay trolls go without punishments for longer than they should, and while this is unfortunate and annoying it does make sure that people aren't unjustly punished for just having a bad game.

I was punished for assaulting him, and only him, but he is able to ruin games and get away with it.

While it is annoying to see gameplay trolls continue playing, rest assured that when they are caught they are hit with an immediate 14-day as the first punishment, or a permanent ban if that's not the first time they've been punished. In case you don't believe me just a simple search in the Player Behavior forum will show multiple threads of people complaining that they were punished for gameplay-related offenses. Regardless though their poor behavior does not excuse your own, and by retaliating back you forced the other 3 players on your team to deal with yet another problem player, the Teemo player and now you.

If you think this is fine, I'm done speaking with you. You are in the wrong and I'm not going to bother seeing you try to convince me that I'm still in the wrong. You can go fuck yourself.

I never said that it was okay, and putting words in my mouth and insulting those who aren't giving you the Yesman answers that you're looking for is gonna get you nowhere. The fact remains that you chose to yell and rage at him and make the situation worse for everyone involved and now you have to deal with the consequences of your behavior because of it.

I'll repeat what I said earlier: at this point you have multiple posts from people trying to help you out, so you have two options here.

  1. You can stick your head in the sand and keep pretending that you've done nothing wrong and keep getting punished because of it.
  2. You can listen to the people trying to help you and improve your behavior for the better and work to not get punished again.

The choice is up to you and you alone.

homeworkfairy1 votes

Because the system has to make sure that they are legitimately trolling and not just having a bad game

You are defending him trolling. Again. Why am I bothering with your response?

I never said that it was okay

You agree with Riot, no? If you do, then you think what he did is okay. You are saying IT'S FINE THAT HE TROLLED. You are willfully ignoring what I'm saying and siding with Riot's decision that inting is okay. Remember how I said he wasn't punished? HE WASN'T PUNISHED. What about that are you not getting?

make the situation worse for everyone involved

Like how this player made the game better by intentionally feeding? Oh, sorry for making the game unpleasant for the feeder, I'll be sure to apologize to him for being mean after he ruined my game and got me banned.

I'll repeat what I said earlier: pretentious bullshit

Get the fuck out of here. You don't even know what you're saying anymore.

ModPrandine1 votes

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You are defending him trolling. Again. Why am I bothering with your response?

That's not me defending him that's me explaining why gameplay trolls can often go unpunished for so long. There's a difference.

You agree with Riot, no? If you do, then you think what he did is okay. You are saying IT'S FINE THAT HE TROLLED. You are willfully ignoring what I'm saying and siding with Riot's decision that inting is okay. Remember how I said he wasn't punished? HE WASN'T PUNISHED. What about that are you not getting?

Here's what I said in my first response to you:

What Teemo did warrants a ban, but understand that two wrongs don't make a right. In other words one persons poor actions doesn't give you a "get out of jail free" card if you choose to behave that way as well.

As you can see here I clearly stated that what Teemo did warrants a ban, but I also stated that his poor behavior doesn't excuse your own. This is not me saying that it's fine that he trolled and is not me saying that he should have gotten away Scott free, this is me saying that while what he did was definitely punish worthy so is what you did. Below is Riot's stance on this type of subject, straight from the Instant Feedback System FAQ:

WHY WAS I PUNISHED WHEN THE OTHER PERSON WAS WORSE OR STARTED IT!

  • Simply speaking, retaliation is not an acceptable or justifiable behavior. An argument between two players can easily create a negative experience for the rest of the players in the game with you. Regardless of the other player’s actions, this does not justify your own behavior. You alone are responsible for your actions within the game. If you encounter a toxic player like this, the best option is to simply report their behavior and move on.
  • Reports are a vital piece to the puzzle. If you are not sure of what sort of behavior is reportable take a look at the Reporting a Player FAQ

Again, this comes straight from Riot themselves. Not only that but allot of what is punishable comes straight from the community itself. You can try to argue all you want but it won't change a thing. Also answer me this: how do you think the other 3 players on your team felt by having to deal with both yours and Teemos behavior? Do you think that it was fun or enjoyable for them to have to listen you rage and flame at Teemo while already having to deal with Teemo trolling the game?

Like how this player made the game better by intentionally feeding? Oh, sorry for making the game unpleasant for the feeder, I'll be sure to apologize to him for being mean after he ruined my game and got me banned.

I'll repeat what I said in my first response to you:

You don't have to be nice to those players, but raging and flaming at them is not gonna stop them from ruining the game for everyone. In fact, more often than not it will encourage them to continue on with their poor behavior rather than stop it. Not only that but you force your other teammates to put up with your behavior as well as the original troll. If you don't give them the negative reaction that they want then chances are they'll stop acting up and start playing normally.

Get the fuck out of here. You don't even know what you're saying anymore.

You're free to disagree with the rules, but understand that yelling and raging at everyone and twisting what they said into something else only further proves to everyone reading that your ban was deserved. If you can't get your point across without resorting to insults and name-calling then chances are it was never really that valid to begin with.

homeworkfairy1 votes

You aren't worth speaking to anymore. You repeat the same nonsense like it's God's word. You're infallible and I'm wrong. That's never going to change.

Go be high and mighty elsewhere, I'm tired of your pretentious drivel.

FlyingRoboticCow6 votes

Ritos system isn't an eye for an eye. you chose to be toxic and that's what you're being punished for. And if you got a ban its because you have a history of the behavior and have been punished before.

homeworkfairy1 votes

Funny how I was fine in EVERY game before this, but this game happens, and I get permanently banned. That's stupid. What you just said is stupid. If I'm banned, he should be banned as well, as what he did made the GAME unplayable. Being pissed off at another player for ruining the game isn't ruining the game. You do realize this, right? We are talking about a VIDEO GAME that you PLAY.

FlyingRoboticCow4 votes

See thats not how riots system works you don't talk a little shit then get perma banned theres something wrong with your story you've either had punishments before of that or the toxicity was far worse than this. either way the other person being in the wrong doesn't give you the right to also be wrong.

homeworkfairy1 votes

I had a 14 day suspension. Then immediate permanent ban after one "toxic" game.

either way the other person being in the wrong doesn't give you the right to also be wrong.

So I should praise him for being a degenerate? I should be exalted at the fact that he ruined the game for me and my teammates? I should feel elated when he tells me that I'm trolling him?

Nothing I did was "wrong." He ruins the game and I verbally abuse him for ruining the game and blaming me for it. What is "wrong" about me getting pissed off at someone ruining a game I am trying to play?

FlyingRoboticCow4 votes

Lol theres you issue you had a 14 day suspension before hand any punishment after that is a ban because you just dont learn maybe you can learn to not type in game during you next 30 levels

homeworkfairy1 votes

That isn't how it worked in the past. I have had permanently banned accounts; they never get permanent bans after one game like this. NEVER. They are effectively siding with the feeder by allowing him to continue playing and banning me for being mad at him.

I cannot comprehend why you don't see my side of this; you either aren't trying to, or you legitimately believe this is a "good" punishment system.

FlyingRoboticCow2 votes

LOL multiple banned accounts and you still can't see that you're the issue, they're not siding with the feeder they're punishing you for being the toxic player that you are. The next part is important for you to get through your head THE OTHER PLAYERS ACTIONS DON'T MATTER ITS YOUR ACTIONS THAT MATTER.

homeworkfairy1 votes

You just continue to ignore what I've been saying. Why am I bothering responding? They are punishing me because I got mad at a player that was ruining the game. THAT'S IT. What happened after that or before that is completely irrelevant. He feeds, I get pissed at him and "flame" him and he gets away because he didn't type "fuck."

THE OTHER PLAYERS ACTIONS DON'T MATTER ITS YOUR ACTIONS THAT MATTER.

You are a massive hypocrite. You JUST SAID he was in the wrong for what he did, now you say that other players actions don't matter. So him feeding INTENTIONALLY is fine? Okay, that's all I needed to see. You are not worth speaking to anymore, you can't even maintain consistency with what you say, and you are siding with the feeder and Riot; in other words, the side that is wrong.

Have a wonderful rest of your fucking day.

FlyingRoboticCow2 votes

Good luck with your next 30 levels*[slayer-jinx-wink]*

I Hate Bees1 votes

I just think he's a little miffed is all. If he can't understand that why they both were wrong in the situation, and that he may not even know what happened to the Teemo in the end, ban or no, it's just going to cause him more trouble in the end. I haven't been banned, but I guess I still empathize with him in a way.[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

I guess.

FlyingRoboticCow2 votes

I'm not sure why I kept trying to explain it after he said he has multiple banned accounts, some people just don't learn

I Hate Bees1 votes

Kinda funny though. Seeing it in "person" at least lol. You try to help some people and they thrash, scream, and shift the blame.

zPOOPz4 votes

"Unjustified"

And what justificatiion did you used to bitch all game and create a negative gaming experience for your other 3 teammates?

You dont get perna banned just for this one game. You must have a history of toxicity in other games as well as previous punishment record you conviencely "forget" or left out of your narration.

homeworkfairy1 votes

And what justification did you used to bitch all game and create a negative gaming experience for your other 3 teammates?

You cannot be serious. You are fucking with me, right? He intentionally feeds all game, which makes it unplayable. I get mad at him and type at him when he claims I'm trolling him even though he is inting. Me getting mad at him is worse than him making the game literally unplayable for anyone else to you. Nah, you have to be fucking with me.

You dont get perna banned just for this one game. You must have a history of toxicity in other games as well as previous punishment record you conviencely "forget" or left out of your narration.

This was all Riot gave me. And I can guarantee they let that Teemo player run free, where if someone doesn't suicide for him, he ints, ruining the game for everyone, but doesn't flame in the stereotypical manner. I don't get how that makes sense, but that's what Riot wants, I guess. They don't want people who actually want to play the game, apparently. They want this Teemo player.

zPOOPz4 votes

Idc about the teemo. I know how to count. Im asking you what justifcation did you used to create a toxic game for your other 3 teammates who are not that teemo.

They had to read you bitching in team chat all game long, flaming, and throwing vulgarities at the teemo. What about them?

You both deserved the ban. The teemo deserve the ban and YOU deserve the ban.

homeworkfairy1 votes

They had to read you bitching in team chat all game long, flaming, and throwing vulgarities at the teemo. What about them?

That's irrelevant when you return to the fact that HE IS FEEDING. FEEDING RUINS THE GAME. I can't believe you're saying what he did was fine, and I'm in the wrong for being mad about it.

You both deserved the ban. The teemo deserve the ban and YOU deserve the ban.

He never got banned, you idiot. HE IS STILL PLAYING. EVERYONE was on his side because I was mad at HIM.

You aren't going to add anything more to this since you have the same backward logic that Riot has, so I'm just going to ignore any further responses from you.

zPOOPz2 votes

That's irrelevant

It's the fact you think creating a negative gaming experience for the other 3 teammates who did nothing to offend you is irrelevant is what you got you banned.

ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

If you want to stop getting banned, learn to think about others beside yourself. Before you hit that Enter key, think of what you're about to type will affect the other people in the game that is not the person who offended you. Maybe it will help with your next account or maybe you should consider that League (or all online gaming where you have to interact with other HUMAN BEINGS) is not the game for you...

homeworkfairy1 votes

You refuse to read at anything I have said. I'm not going to deign your dumbass post a response.

zPOOPz1 votes

is ANYONE in this forum have any doubt about your punishment? you INSULTED people left and right in this thread. I can't even imagine what's on your other toxic games...

Xenos von Faneli3 votes

Probably the parts where you said: "fuck you Teemo, you're a fucking loser, the whole I'm glad I got THIS TEAM THIS ONE THIS TEAM part, go fuck yourself, you're a fucking moron, moron, you fucking amateur."

So a couple things here, first off, WHATEVER the other players might do. none of that justifies these kind of responses, now I could honestly stop there, but I won't. See if he's being a feeding ass, just report him and move on, sure it feels crappy, but that's part of why it's there, also if he's gonna blame you and junk and it's not your fault just mute him. Lastly, you say you got banned, by this I'm assuming you mean permabanned which if so this incident with Teemo is not the first and you've probably showed a habit of responding like this, which if you haven't fixed then that's on you. But who know's maybe this is your first ban of any kind, in which case it's temporary and you can do better next time.

homeworkfairy1 votes

Do you honestly think that he didn't deserve it? He literally fed the moment he got back into lane after dying at level 1, and said I was trolling ALL game, and kept asking others to report ME. How is what he did fine??? I ASKED them to report him, then they all ganged up on me saying I was the trolling one. ME. I TROLLED, according to them. Your logic about me getting an instant perma ban is flawed; can you try thinking about the situation before you comment please?

Xenos von Faneli1 votes

I think Riot's policy which you agreed to when joining the game says that people NEVER deserve being called fucking moron repeatedly. What he did was NOT fine, but you calling him names does absolutely NOTHING to change it, and by the way, there's no reason to ask people to report someone, 1 report has just as much weight as 9. and my logic is not flawed, I never said you got permabanned, I'm saying that Riot's system is one of escalating punishments so IF you did get permabanned, it's your fault for not learning from past mistakes.

homeworkfairy1 votes

So the mistake was being mad at someone for intentionally feeding? Right, I forgot. You all think that is "acceptable behavior." Next time, I'll be sure to praise him for being such an honorable player.

EvilDustMan3 votes

So, did flaming the Teemo stop him from inting?

homeworkfairy1 votes

You don't get it. I "flamed" when he said I was trolling him. He was passive aggressive and acted like everything was my fault, including his 3 and 17, which he denied was inting. He acted like he was actually playing the game, and I was fucking him over by trolling him, even though he was inting the entire game. Do you mind telling me why I should say, "Thank you very much for the fun game Teemo! You were a great teammate and I hope I run into you again!" Instead of, "Get this fucking piece of shit banned."?

What was the point of what you just said?

FlyingRoboticCow4 votes

No sir you don't get it. YOU FLAMED the other persons actions are irrelevant you mute them and keep playing and report them after the game. Them being wrong doesn't give you the right to also be wrong.

homeworkfairy2 votes

You refuse to acknowledge why I did it. You are telling me you're fine with people inting, then, if you think they don't deserve any sort of condemnation by other players. Their actions aren't irrelevant, guy. If they are ruining the game, they are open to any sort of harassment. You should not be fucking banned for verbally assaulting someone that is feeding. THAT RUINS THE GAME. TALKING DOESN'T RUIN THE GAME.

FlyingRoboticCow2 votes

I understand why you did it the other person played poorly or inted but that's not the issue, the issue is that you're toxic coming off a 14 day ban and have multiple banned account but can't get it through your head that you're a toxic player and that unless you find a way to fix that you're going to keep getting banned. And no i'm not fine with people inting and the condemnation is reporting that person and moving on and no they're not open to any sort of harassment Riot has been very clear on this and that's why you keep getting banned because you think you make the rules and you very clearly don't.

Pouck3 votes

After reading through the comments, you do not seem to understand.

  1. You got permabanned = You got sanctioned before = you were toxic in previous game. NOW, you do not improve your behaviour so you get permabanned, seems logical to me.

  2. You are justifying your behaviour because the Teemo was feeding, asking other players to report you and saying you were the one trolling. I agree with you he is lying and his behaviour is bad. But it does not, in any way, gives you an excuse to flame. Nothing that happen during a game gives you the right to flame. You flame = you get sanctioned

Next time just mute and move on. It can feel very annoying to lose a game like this, it's true, but deal with it, it happens to everyone.

homeworkfairy1 votes

You got permabanned = You got sanctioned before = you were toxic in previous game. NOW, you do not improve your behaviour so you get permabanned, seems logical to me.

One game was like this after the suspension was lifted. I immediately get banned for "flaming" someone who was intentionally feeding. What about that makes sense? It's "wrong" to be mad at someone that intentionally feeds and ruins the game?

But it does not, in any way, gives you an excuse to flame.

Why?

Next time just mute and move on. It can feel very annoying to lose a game like this, it's true, but deal with it, it happens to everyone.

I can't because I was unjustifiably banned because he convinced everyone else I was trolling him. You could look at the fucking match history that I linked and see that he is clearly wrong, but you won't. Muting him wouldn't have stopped him from ruining the game for everyone else, but you don't care about that either. You want him to go unpunished and you want me punished because I was "mean" to him, even though he RUINED THE GAME.

I Hate Bees1 votes

Another thing I noticed you sent about 40 messages in that 25 min game. Everyone in the game probably also reported you for flooding the chat with garbage. In my opinion that's 35 too many. Especially since it is 100% devoted to screaming at the Teemo for feeding and ruining "everyone's" game. Me personally I get annoyed when people are posting their" life stories" and "woe is me's" in chat and wont just shut up and play. I feel like it's harder to win with a player that wont go beside himself and focus than an inter. Yea it sucks and he does deserve to get banned if the system says so, but you should've been focused on carrying not screaming and contributing to a loss. Also it 100% doesn't give you a right to flame him. Even though the Teemo was being toxic by feeding, and causing a toxic environment it was just a catalyst to what toxicity YOU would bring to the game. Just because Teemo broke a rule by your example doesn't mean you can break 2 or 3.

homeworkfairy1 votes

Everyone in the game probably also reported you for flooding the chat with garbage.

I can guarantee I talked as much, if not less, than my jungler. Too bad Riot won't let me prove that, though, so there was little point in saying that. He was complaining about me and Teemo trolling him all game, but that's fine. Me getting pissed at a feeder, though? Garbage.

Especially since it is 100% devoted to screaming at the Teemo for feeding and ruining "everyone's" game.

100 percent of my messages weren't directed at him.

Me personally I get annoyed when people are posting their" life stories" and "woe is me's" in chat and wont just shut up and play.

I tried doing this, but I didn't see a point since Teemo ruined the game. I wanted to lash out at him and for the game to end as fast as possible.

Yea it sucks and he does deserve to get banned if the system says so

Don't worry, he won't be banned. He isn't me, so he gets to run free. That's how this system works.

but you should've been focused on carrying not screaming and contributing to a loss

Oh, you think I stopped playing? I guess I should be more clear about every little detail when typing something to people on the internet. If you bothered to look at my link to the match history, you can see that I DID try to come back in that game. I tried to farm a lot to be able to fight their incredibly fed team. You would have known this if you bothered to try and look, but you're lazy.

Also it 100% doesn't give you a right to flame him.

Explain.

Even though the Teemo was being toxic by feeding, and causing a toxic environment it was just a catalyst to what toxicity YOU would bring to the game.

I don't understand. You are telling me I would be toxic regardless of this happening? That's completely false considering the fucking 7 other games I played before this that didn't have feeders or dumbasses ruining the game. Didn't get banned in those, even in the ones I lost. "Getting mad at a feeder is heresy" is literally what you just said.

Just because Teemo broke a rule by your example doesn't mean you can break 2 or 3.

BY MY EXAMPLE. You have GOT to be joking. I'm going to put out an extreme viewpoint here. I think people that intentionally feed should be punished. I KNOW, I KNOW. It's a new concept, but I think I can convince enough people that it's the correct perspective to have, and maybe it will be dealt with some time soon. It's a far-fetched idea, you know, not liking people that feed intentionally in games, BUT... there is some validity in it if you stop and think.

I Hate Bees1 votes

I can guarantee I talked as much, if not less, than my jungler. Too bad Riot won't let me prove that, though, so there was little point in saying that. He was complaining about me and Teemo trolling him all game, but that's fine. Me getting pissed at a feeder, though? Garbage.

Oh I'm sorry did your jungler get banned for flaming?

I tried doing this, but I didn't see a point since Teemo ruined the game. I wanted to lash out at him and for the game to end as fast as possible.

So instead of trying to win you just starting talking smack and flooding the chat with garbage. Got it.

Don't worry, he won't be banned. He isn't me, so he gets to run free. That's how this system works.

"Woe is me. Riot hates ONLY me because I got banned for being tox- oh.. I mean. I got banned for no reason. It's Teemo's fault."

Oh, you think I stopped playing? I guess I should be more clear about every little detail when typing something to people on the internet. If you bothered to look at my link to the match history, you can see that I DID try to come back in that game. I tried to farm a lot to be able to fight their incredibly fed team. You would have known this if you bothered to try and look, but you're lazy.

I actually did look at your match history, but you sure love throwing accusations and insulting people. I also noticed you don't even have a full greater rune page by the way. Wouldn't that hinder your team as well? So you lost lane because you didn't finish your page as well. You got a BF sword on trist by 5 mins and still lost lane. Even though Teemo wasn't worth gold anymore, and you weren't dying.

I don't understand. You are telling me I would be toxic regardless of this happening? That's completely false considering the fucking 7 other games I played before this that didn't have feeders or dumbasses ruining the game. Didn't get banned in those, even in the ones I lost. "Getting mad at a feeder is heresy" is literally what you just said.

Kid you got banned before, there are people here trying to HELP you learn so it won't happen again and you are just throwing up your hands and saying you aren't wrong because Teemo was also wrong.

BY MY EXAMPLE. You have GOT to be joking. I'm going to put out an extreme viewpoint here. I think people that intentionally feed should be punished. I KNOW, I KNOW. It's a new concept, but I think I can convince enough people that it's the correct perspective to have, and maybe it will be dealt with some time soon. It's a far-fetched idea, you know, not liking people that feed intentionally in games, BUT... there is some validity in it if you stop and think.

Also if you didn't go out of your way to get offended by everything anyone so far has told you you could've understood what I said as "From what you told us he was inting, but no one knows for sure because no one was in the game, and no one has seen another side of the story" but instead you just get more angry and reply with a half thought out post trying to justify not only your toxicity in game but also your toxicity right now. I'm actually pretty annoyed by you right now but I'm still trying to help you, and I'm refraining from insulting you as you've done to me. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

homeworkfairy1 votes

I don't care about what you just said, but for the record, he wasn't banned. You can see that he has still played, and I was right all along. He doesn't get punished for ruining a game, but I get punished for being mad at him.

This is the system you agree with. This is the system you love. You think this is justified.

Pouck2 votes

Exactly, also

{quoted} One game was like this after the suspension was lifted. I immediately get banned for "flaming" someone who was intentionally feeding. What about that makes sense? It's "wrong" to be mad at someone that intentionally feeds and ruins the game?

How does it make not sense. You were punished for bad behaviour, you come back and flame right away, you get punished again. The reason does not matter. You can be mad about the Teemo of course, but in no way you being mad means you can flame.

Why?

Because flaming is not allowed, no matter the reasons or what happen in the game.

I can't because I was unjustifiably banned because he convinced everyone else I was trolling him. You could look at the fucking match history that I linked and see that he is clearly wrong, but you won't. Muting him wouldn't have stopped him from ruining the game for everyone else, but you don't care about that either. You want him to go unpunished and you want me punished because I was "mean" to him, even though he RUINED THE GAME.

You were justifiably banned I looked at the match history, he fed like hell, but again that is no excuse for you to flame You say "muting him wouldn't have stopped him from ruining the game", can you honestly say flaming and being rude is helping in these kind of situation? No, you just made the situation even worse and ruined the game with him.

Douglas Funnie2 votes

Riot need to focus on Trolls/Feeders/Afkers. They are the root cause of verbal toxicity. Think about it. What do trolls feed off of? They feed off of player's reactions. And that reaction is noticeable through chat. Once a legitimate player displays frustration through chat, the troll has complete power over the player. Trolls play the victim card, and get away scot-free while legitimate players get punished.

Even though players have complete control over muting, trolls wont use the mute option. They wont use it because they feed off of the frustrations of other players and reports them the moment they see verbal toxicity. And how does the legitimate player fight back? The player will often report the troll. However, with Riot's lenient punishment system, the system most likely thinks the troll is, "just having a bad game."

Once Riot mitigates the root cause, League's community and the game will be at a healthier state, believe me.

homeworkfairy1 votes

Finally, someone with some common sense.

YerroFever1 votes

Remember, you're punished for what you do and say.

You could have chosen to respond to this alleged inting and trolling in a more constructive way. However, you chose to go on for multiple lines of chat with flaming him. That's what you're punished for. Your choice in how to respond.

Just because they do something wrong, doesn't mean you have to go do something wrong back to them.

homeworkfairy1 votes

You're acting like a fucking drone. How many times will you look at what other people have said and repeat it like it means something?

You think what he did was fine. He can say I'm trolling and you don't give a shit. He can feed INTENTIONALLY, but he wasn't flaming, so he's good. You really feel that's justified? Of course you do. You have convinced yourself that I can't be in the right, and that I should be happy that he was intentionally feeding and claiming I'm trolling when I'm trying to play.

Go fuck yourself and your backward logic.

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