Would Appreciate Community Responses

dbmbro·8/6/2017, 3:23:03 PM·1 votes·515 views

A response email to a Rioter about a banned account:

CHAT can easily be ignored. What can't be ignored (not HARD to ignore, IMPOSSIBLE to ignore) are teammates actively engaging in behavior that prevents you from catching up or even being able to stay in lane. God forbid you point it out that you need that experience and/or gold. Riot doesn't do anything about in-game behavior outside of chat. It takes countless games ruined by intentionally feeding or botting for you all to do anything about it, if it ever actually gets done. You have a system (muting) in place to immediately take care of verbal griefing, but NOTHING in place to immediately take care of trolling or behavior griefing.

So, this is a game, which means it should be enjoyable. If my team is refusing to help me in lane, the enemy laner consistently dives the turret, the jungler only comes to lane after I've died to take lane cs, and he also smites the camp I'm killing, outside of afk'ing, because THAT'S reportable, what is a player supposed to do? The game at this point has no enjoyable aspect to it. I can't stay in lane, I can't farm jungle camps, I'm 2-3 levels behind so I get insta-killed in team fights, and I would get flamed for going to another lane to soak experience. Your behavior system forces players to stay in a game where they can't contribute to the team, and it only takes 2 players (a minority in a 5-player-per-team game) to prevent a forfeit, thus prolonging the bad experience someone may be having. So what does Riot suggest you do at that point?


So how would this community respond to this?

BTW, chat logs on the game that got me banned:

[2:26] dbmbro (Teemo): gank [2:32] dbmbro (Teemo): no summs [4:05] dbmbro (Teemo): lmao [4:12] dbmbro (Teemo): ok, then i'll just let him free farm [5:11] dbmbro (Teemo): i'm done [5:11] dbmbro (Teemo): gg [5:24] dbmbro (Teemo): thanks for the ganks top [5:36] dbmbro (Teemo): lost 2-3 waves [5:41] dbmbro (Teemo): he didn't take tp [5:43] dbmbro (Teemo): and you haven't ganked [5:48] dbmbro (Teemo): ok [7:17] dbmbro (Teemo): for? he's freezing [7:21] dbmbro (Teemo): i can't go to lane [7:23] dbmbro (Teemo): he'll kill me [7:27] dbmbro (Teemo): and you refuse to help top [7:35] dbmbro (Teemo): because i'm falling behind in xp [7:41] dbmbro (Teemo): holy shit are you really htis dense? [7:53] dbmbro (Teemo): 2 levels up now [8:00] dbmbro (Teemo): he just all ins whenever i show [8:16] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): push top [8:19] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): jungler refusing to help [8:39] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): then bitches when i take jungle camp forr xp [8:44] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): lmao [8:51] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): typical jungler of mine...only comes to lane to take farm [9:00] dbmbro (Teemo): what do you want me to do? [9:02] dbmbro (Teemo): i can't even lane top any mroe [9:18] dbmbro (Teemo): 3 levels up on em [9:31] dbmbro (Teemo): it's panth..... [9:33] dbmbro (Teemo): he q's [9:35] dbmbro (Teemo): then tower dives [10:14] dbmbro (Teemo): he's 3 levels up now, lmao [10:19] dbmbro (Teemo): and 0 help pushing lane to turret [10:26] dbmbro (Teemo): unreal [10:47] dbmbro (Teemo): yep [10:50] dbmbro (Teemo): for what? [10:55] dbmbro (Teemo): i already told you [10:58] dbmbro (Teemo): ROFL [11:03] dbmbro (Teemo): i'm explaining my situation top [11:06] dbmbro (Teemo): that's hardly toxicity [12:35] dbmbro (Teemo): veig [12:41] dbmbro (Teemo): take a look at panth's summoners [12:44] dbmbro (Teemo): he took flash and ignite [12:50] dbmbro (Teemo): and i got 0 ganks top to put him back [12:58] dbmbro (Teemo): just another trollboy [13:12] dbmbro (Teemo): he auto wins top with ignite [13:15] dbmbro (Teemo): and panth [13:41] dbmbro (Teemo): i've called his summoners [13:42] dbmbro (Teemo): every time [13:44] dbmbro (Teemo): and 0 ganks [14:00] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): gg wp top [14:05] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): jungler refusing to gank...sigh [14:09] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): and veig griefing me [14:11] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): love it [15:31] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): for? [15:33] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): lmao [15:55] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): lmao, thought this community was improving with the bans....apparently not.... [16:32] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): just wanted my win of the day.... [17:10] dbmbro (Teemo): *you['re [17:12] dbmbro (Teemo): *you're [21:18] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): LOL [24:57] dbmbro (Teemo): now i have to push out further to farm [26:05] dbmbro (Teemo): rip [27:20] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): ggwp [28:58] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): lol [29:06] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): yeh [29:13] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): that damage tho [30:26] dbmbro (Teemo): rofl [30:32] dbmbro (Teemo): this jungler [31:32] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): any of y'all grouped? [31:45] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): you play like you are [31:46] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): :-
[31:47] [All] dbmbro (Teemo): ggw p

23 Comments

Subdue8/6/2017, 3:54:24 PM7 votes

Looks to me like you played poorly and want to blame Rammus. You don't pick Teemo and expect your jungler to camp your lane. Teemo is supposed to be a lane that wins without help, leveraging mushroom coverage to safely harass and push lane. Ganking for Teemo, especially one that's behind, is a futile endeavor. Teemo bring no CC and no burst to the fight, and he's too squishy to even be a meat shield. Best case scenario is that the jungler might be able to relieve some pressure at the expense of his own farm, or in Rammus's case, a better gank elsewhere. But more than likely, one or both of you would die.

Not ganking for you was the right call by Rammus, and you're toxic as hell.

FightORFlight8/6/2017, 7:40:26 PM1 votes

You're making such a big fuss over a blind pick game?

I play tons of games when kata and enemy jungler dive me 24/7 under mid tower while our jungler watches all you can do is ward so you can be well prepared, try to outskill them and minimize the damage. Jungler focused more on other lanes and thats fine... you dont always get to be camped by your jungler

Also i bet that even after 2 deaths you went on and try to poke pant, even trade with him knowing you are likely going to die

Edit: but i see your point.. pant dived you and you wanted jungler to counter that... in blind pick you rarely get junglers that are always in place where the action is (counter ganking, helping with turrets when enemy recalls, taking drake when bot recalls, countering dives etc.)

Sorin Alucard8/6/2017, 10:37:29 PM1 votes

yo, we've all been tilted by the "camped, getting no ganks, counter-picked, losing hard situation", but it was 1 game. Also, you gave into tilt and started flaming. Did you really think that when the jg wouldn't come, and your teammates started arguing with you, that you were going to get ANYWHERE with the conversation? Then if you felt like it wasn't gonnna happen, why continue the convo past requesting ganks and announcing you're not doing well? As far as I see, your communication should've ended there. You should've muted, accepted you'd lose lane, and survive that shit as best as possible. You should've started lane with a defensive item. You shouldve built defensively past that point with the sole goal of surviving, and if you couldn't (cuz panth v teemo is panth's favor) accept your loss of lane and look to how to help the team past lane phase. If the others were toxic, and you weren't, you just lost and reported them for being toxic, you wouldn't be on this board, pissed that you got called out by riot for being negative in game. You'd be on another game, learning from the last one and hopefully winning.