Permanent Ban Appeals

TheScarredBurger·Jan 25, 2017·6 votes·42,638 views

I was banned for being toxic about a year and a half ago. ( Which I admit, I was pretty toxic at the time ) and really started dreading the decisions I had made. After being banned I had anger therapy, even did an evaluation with my doctor to help me out. I've not yelled or flamed anyone in that period of time on any accounts on this game, or on any other games.

     _  What do you guys think about toxic players_? Should they be allowed to appeal, and possibly show improvement to get un-banned? I sure wish I could, as this is a game I used to love so much.

31 Comments

RiotRiot TantramJul 14, 20174 votes

I'm happy to hear that you took steps to improve yourself. However, permanent accounts which are not banned in error are not unbanned.

Hyde EphynytionJul 25, 20171 votes

so how do i find out if someone has been banned in error. i have a friend who got prema'd with any warning. hes only lvl 11 so not like hes had time to be toxic.

o Maui oJul 25, 20171 votes

Inquire about a ban by submitting a support ticket: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us

Hyde EphynytionJul 25, 20171 votes

it wont work. the confirmation email hasnt been sent. he tried 3 times.

ZezockaryJan 25, 20173 votes

They used to do a thing where if you put in a support ticket and asked they would let you try to make it to level 20 and if you succeeded without being punished then you could keep your account, but the success rate was only like 2% or something so they stopped because it was just introducing the toxic people to the new players and making the situation worse.

TheScarredBurgerJan 25, 20171 votes

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They used to do a thing where if you put in a support ticket and asked they would let you try to make it to level 20 and if you succeeded without being punished then you could keep your account, but the success rate was only like 2% or something so they stopped because it was just introducing the toxic people to the new players and making the situation worse.

Yeah, I saw that. Shame it didn't work out too well. I would have been apart of that 2%

OmnibenevolenceJun 21, 20171 votes

They did!?!?! Omg I could do that with 100% success and be reformed. Man, it's hard for people like me whoare honestly and truly apologetic about what has been done and have the drive to want to reform that there is no option upon being perma'd. I don't make any excuses about what i've done I own up to it all and it's shameful when thinking about it all! Like yo I'm only human But alot of what I have said was in response to being trolled by a member of my team. If I could take it all back and start over with a clean slate I would in a heart beat. shame this is no longer an option

Ang3LCrVzYJul 14, 20171 votes

Well that sucks. I'm already level 12 on my alt and I haven't been reported at all.

ModUlanopoJan 25, 20173 votes

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     _  What do you guys think about toxic players_? Should they be allowed to appeal, and possibly show improvement to get un-banned? I sure wish I could, as this is a game I used to love so much.

One of the reasons Riot went to the 4-step punishment system was because some people treated their accounts as though they were disposable. They discovered that it doesn't matter what the punishment is, people who are going to change do so. People who aren't going to change keep going.

Now, it sounds as though you figured out your account is valuable to you. That's a good thing. It won't get you your old account back, but it will definitely help going forward.

OmnibenevolenceJun 21, 20173 votes

What's hard about this is if you're a player who actually had been trying to reform and you slip up one time after your second ban after months.. the first thing that happens is you get that perma. I had honestly been looking into appeals before the ban for knowledge on if I had got to that point what I could do to get my account back. I've only seen one success story, and that scared me enough to change! It is so depressing that there are these few people who are quick to count us out instead of having faith in us, encouraging us to do better, helping us write appeals, putting the time into looking for the good in us the part of us that wants to change before stepping on our dreams and kicking us while we're down. We get it. We were perma banned! we understand, but you don't have to revel in our pain, you don't have to put salt in our wounds. let us believe there is a way! let us believe we can one day prove that we can be just as good with the league community as you who haven't been perma banned. You have no right to tell us otherwise and we'd be foolish to believe you.

AthenasVendettaJan 25, 20172 votes

Perhaps

Magical PlayerJan 25, 20172 votes

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us Show them all of your evidence that shows change

TheScarredBurgerJan 25, 20171 votes

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https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us Show them all of your evidence that shows change

I've already tried, begged, pleaded, nothing. I don't think that would help my case any more

ManaricelleJan 25, 20172 votes

I don't know if Riot does this, but there was an online strategy roleplaying exploration game that an acquaintance of mine was banned from for toxic behavior and he tried to do an appeal and it didn't go through. He had major rage issues, but he really enjoyed the game a lot. He had spent a lot of money into it and it was a way of escape for him.

Since the game meant a lot to him he went to therapy and some behavioral classes and made a portfolio with documents in it and submitted a second appeal to them that was well written and supported and they ended up giving him his account back. Not saying that Riot would do the same.

Also, not saying that you would have to probably go through all of that with the classes and therapy and such, but maybe something that provides support of change could help you. I honestly don't have a clue as to what that may be. But if you want it bad enough, you will find a way.

scazzmanJan 25, 20172 votes

riot likes mocking negative players so no

dragonuityJun 29, 20172 votes

Just got permad today. rip boys

ZielmannJan 25, 20171 votes

That would really take the teeth out of the whole concept of a permanent ban. It wouldn't really be permanent in that case, would it?

Take it as a tough lesson. I'm glad you've gotten better with managing anger, and as long as you keep that up, you'll be able to continue using the accounts you have now.

TheScarredBurgerJan 25, 20172 votes

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That would really take the teeth out of the whole concept of a permanent ban. It wouldn't really be permanent in that case, would it?

Take it as a tough lesson. I'm glad you've gotten better with managing anger, and as long as you keep that up, you'll be able to continue using the accounts you have now.

I wouldn't want to make a new account when I've already worked up this account, and done so much on it. I'm just seeing what other people think if there should be some kind of appeal process and how you guys think it should work. I don't think it would take away the concept, but rather make the game better. I had only gotten 2 chat restrictions on this account following my perma.

CooL Ice TeaJan 25, 20171 votes

I am a little bit confused right now

I wouldn't want to make a new account

are you playing on another account you made after your perma or not?

TheScarredBurgerJan 25, 20171 votes

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I am a little bit confused right now

are you playing on another account you made after your perma or not?

What I mean is that I wouldn't like to bother to fully level up the new account past 20, as I feel it's just a waste of time for me being someone who used to play this game a lot on my previous account.

Tactical PoroJan 25, 20171 votes

I think, personally, that if a player reaches the point of being perma-banned they should have to live with that consequence. However, like any instance of this case if that said player were to create a new account and not recreate the cases that brought the perma-ban upon them they are welcomed. I do still think they shouldn't get their account back, as it's a reminder of what can and will happen if they find themselves in that scenario again. It's great that you've made strides in the right direction! Think of cases like Incarnati0n and his past accounts. He can and did reform but he's still lost all of his previous accounts.

flidasMay 12, 20172 votes

I was banned permanently for using "scrips, hacks", or something along the lines. Though the funny thing was the fact that I hadn't been playing for about six months at the time. I hadn't received any emails insinuating my account was used at another IP address or anything of the sort. There is no way anyone got ahold of my account, and they said it didn't appear as though my account was compromised. That was a low blow. By the time I heard anything about my account being suspended, they pretty much already Perma Banned me. Not to mention the 200+ dollars I spent on the game on skins and champions for myself and friends alike, but I had been playing since season 2. Which had been quite a while. I tried to take it up with them, and they essentially said it was my responsibility to know if someone was using my account or not. It was unbelievable.

DothanJun 26, 20171 votes

I started league a few months ago, I saw champions being toxic so I just assumed It was okay to also say things like that, I never once got a warning or anything and I just got permanently banned. but everyone I keep reading about their posts they got warnings and didn't wanna stop. item 3070

stefansteven1Aug 14, 20171 votes

Ppl change with the Time ,my acc got banned before 2 years and I am 18 now and not aggressive anymore.

TheScarredBurgerJan 25, 20171 votes

To add onto this, I do wish to the least I could get a few (to the VERY least) of my skins/champions on my new accounts. I wish Riot would try to implement ways to give back to reformed players (on my new account, I have had more honors than on my old in months compared to years!). Like a last chance sort of thing, and if they broke the last chance then that would follow a perma-ban. I know I'll never fully enjoy this game on my new account, knowing that I'd be missing everyone on my old [if that makes sense]. More to this, I had never got any punishment such as a '14 day punishment' or anything, just two chat restrictions following my perma-ban.

The FirestarterMay 24, 20171 votes

I mean, Tyler1 is back so anything is possible

KGxReptarJul 16, 20171 votes

I just got permabanned about 10 minutes ago for "toxicity". no warnings or anything. just permabanned. needless to say, I will never play this game again lmao

Scary DoorJul 25, 20171 votes

I just got permabanned about 10 minutes ago for "toxicity". no warnings or anything. just permabanned. needless to say, I will never play this game again lmao

That's good news, because if what you say is true and you had no other bans previously and were instantly escalated to a permaban, then it means you were amazingly toxic---you either intentionally fed or used hate speech or death threats. Either way I'm pretty happy about it... get gone, stay gone.

Jannas BroAug 18, 20171 votes

I was permanently banned around 2 years ago. I appealed and they did nothing (as the rioter stated above). Don't try it as you'll waste time writing a long email.

I'm very sad that you had to go through anger management therapy! You shouldn't have though, and let me explain why.

Going to such therapy means that you have a problem with managing your anger in the real world for very trival things and is affecting your social and occupational life. This game is made with the intention for you to spend a lot of time playing so that you can succeed. It doesn't depend on your intellect, it doesn't depend on how good you are how communicative you are. That's the main reason why people are utterly angry when they lose because most of the time, we know the mistake was not made by us.

It's simple psychology. You aim to achieve something and you give your everything, but when another person comes in and handicaps our success, we get angry, which is a normal human behavior. And when you repeat that step many times, of course you will start blaming the other person. They are the reason why we cannot succeed.

You may say that you don't realize those could be your mistakes but as I said above, this game does not depend on you. When you go in a ranked game you have 4 more team players, which your success is depending on, and if only one them is intentionally trying to sabotage you, that's when you get angry.

This is of course a game, but Riot must know that for many of us this game is (or was) a hobby and we try to make it enjoyable, and something which we could say we're good at.

Surr20plzAug 18, 20171 votes

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I was permanently banned around 2 years ago. I appealed and they did nothing (as the rioter stated above). Don't try it as you'll waste time writing a long email.

I'm very sad that you had to go through anger management therapy! You shouldn't have though, and let me explain why.

Going to such therapy means that you have a problem with managing your anger in the real world for very trival things and is affecting your social and occupational life. This game is made with the intention for you to spend a lot of time playing so that you can succeed. It doesn't depend on your intellect, it doesn't depend on how good you are how communicative you are. That's the main reason why people are utterly angry when they lose because most of the time, we know the mistake was not made by us.

It's simple psychology. You aim to achieve something and you give your everything, but when another person comes in and handicaps our success, we get angry, which is a normal human behavior. And when you repeat that step many times, of course you will start blaming the other person. They are the reason why we cannot succeed.

You may say that you don't realize those could be your mistakes but as I said above, this game does not depend on you. When you go in a ranked game you have 4 more team players, which your success is depending on, and if only one them is intentionally trying to sabotage you, that's when you get angry.

This is of course a game, but Riot must know that for many of us this game is (or was) a hobby and we try to make it enjoyable, and something which we could say we're good at.

Yeah. I've been saying this forever.

This game is literally built to churn rage out of people. It is by design an anger factory. I don't know why they won't admit this.

stefansteven1Aug 14, 2017

I agree I am got banned before 2 years I was 16 there and rly agressive but I would like get it back with the time:/