So I was in a rank game a few minutes ago and had a Kayle that bought items, moved to top turret and afk for the rest of the game. Unfortunately our team cant remake because kayle had moved. Riot needs to change this, because I don't want it to happen ever again to anyone. I could careless about my -17LP but Riot needs to change this crap.
BabyNaix10 votesOr they should implement the system from dota, where if someone afk their items can be taken/sold to other players and the passive gold is given to the other players
The Ender Cobra2 votesO_O That would be awesome ##@RIOT MEDDLER
#FERB, I KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY!!!
zPOOPz1 votesassassins / adc / bruisers / tanks (anyone but supports) would snowballed the hell out of the game 10-15 minutes in with an infusion of extra items or additional gold even against 4v5.....
LegendmakerGX1 votesI think the gold is split up with the team mate so it isn't one person who get all the gold which actually balance it out if you spit it 4 ways and besides enemy has 5 players who has a ult each but trust me Riot won't implement crap until 3 years later just look at the remake system it took them 5 years to even release even though there was a problem with league where a person never connects.
Owyn2 voteslol, imagine 4 ppl going afk at the start leaving adc with all their gold to win the game in first minutes [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]
BabyNaix1 votesI dont think adc or tank can snowball a game alone by them selves. ADC without range or mobility can get one shot. Tank with items but not level advantage wont be that tanky to snowball a game with out a damage dealer partner.
NichtHurz1 votesBut I think this would've to be made differently than in Dota, since in Dota you can kill people so they lose gold, which means that it's easier to take single people out of the game by doing so. If one player has about 10k gold (items + gold in bank) and goes afk this would mean all players on his team would get 2,5k gold. This kind of item advantage could very well just snowball out of control with all players almost getting a full item.
Don't misunderstand me, the idea itself might work out, but I think it'd need to be tweaked to be balanced.
Lothàrs Edge1 votesIf one player has 10k gold... they already have 3-4 items. Having another item at that point in the game in a 4v5 would be the mitigating factor of a lost player.
NichtHurz1 votesYou might think so, but LoL works different compared to Dota. In Dota heroes rely way more in their base damage, which means that you'll often be able to still kill people even without too many items (besides the hypercarries). In League the scaling with items is way more extreme for any champ. If a teamfight oriented midlaner gets a random item advantage like this it can lead to seriously problematic situations, because they might suddenly be able to instagib the whole enemy team.
BabyNaix1 votesThats some what true. The ap dota champions rely on their base damage. I think the ad dota champions are very item reliant
zPOOPz1 votesWhat game are you playing where 4 people with one extra item each over the other 5 people unable to win?
ThePikol1 votesKayle wasn't afk only in first few minutes. She probably didn't even back to base to buy something. Is 450-500 g really that much difference in terms of whole team? And her passive gold income wouldn't be much either
BabyNaix1 votesAt low elo the passive gold means a lot. People have low low cs numbers so the majority of their income is from the passive gold.
TeCoolMage7 votesS10 distant future
5/2/4 Pantheon: o it seems early game is over 10/5/2 LeBlanc: yeah let Vayne get our gold 0/4/9 Nunu: dw ez game
a summoner has disconnected a summoner has disconnected a summoner has disconnected a summoner has reconnected An enemy has been slain Double kill a summoner has reconnected Triple kill Quadra kill PENTAKILL ace a summoner has reconnected
Vayne: LUL 2v5 get rekt scrubs I carried
Two days later the boards are filled with: "20/2/1 Vayne isn't the only one carrying" "End game gold and KDA don't mean everything" "Toxic ADC mains saying they carried LOL" "Daily reminder that early game top laners matter too" "PSA: you didn't actually 2v5 the entire game" ""Varus carried you scrub"" "Mid is NOT easy" "Wtf stupid meta what happened to s6" "Guys remember when balance was perfect s7" "Mid laners 2k20"
Rand0mH3r0X1 votes"[Board posting] is actually balanced"
I also totally just created a sub-thread topic on your mega-thread addressing my own perspective on the issue, without adding any real insight or reasoning.
BabyNaix1 votesThe people that DC on purpose will be slapped with a low priority queue timer though, so it wouldn't be worth for them.
TeCoolMage1 votesand how will it detect if it's on purpose?
PORCHE 9111 votesput the team who have the afk player will win because they are feeded
Gronurris1 votesexploitation
Synnx71 votes/remake system is useless to begin with. Easily bypassed 7 years old game that still has AFK problems. This just shows how incompetent riot is as a company. In HoTs, if someone AFK , it'll replace him with a bot based on his rank tier
TeCoolMage1 votesBots are actually so trash they feed even more...
Synnx71 votesSo by your logic is way better to just have him STAND STILL in the fountain. Bot being trash or not, they still could throw a CC or something. But yeah, this is why this game is garbage
TeCoolMage1 votesHonestly, yes. It puts the game into the hands of the four players despite it being unfair, rather than using RNG and hoping the bots don't give them huge amounts of gold, the enemy doesn't know how to abuse AI, and that they hit their cc on a target that matters (if at all).
It's unfair either way but might as well let the 4 outplay if they can rather than praying the bots don't make the game end in 5 minutes.
BabyNaix1 votesYep I think a bot will make it much worse... unless its doom bots :P. Couple months back the 3v3 map was infested with bots. those games snowballed really hard. The human plays would have around 10 kills each and have 2nd level in ultimate when the bots are just getting their first ultimates.
Fhari1 votesSomething similar happened to me. At the start of a ranked game, our top laner failed to load in. However, we assumed the reason we couldn't remake was because the top laner was re connect for atleast the first 5 minutes of the game.
RacoonHunter1 votesI think riots system for AFK/Feeders needs to be fixed asap. I just lost two games in a row because of something similar to the OP. Our top, super toxic btw, goes afk at his tower for the first 5 minutes of the game talking in all chat and using hate speech, then proceeds to feed a scripting (admitted post game chat) riven. Hell, the entire game was a sess pool (so much for their new "honor" initiative)
I really do not like it when these types of players are causing me to lose 18-21 points in ranked with no recourse. At least when someone AFK or feeds in HOTS the entire team isn't set behind because of their actions.. I mean, this is a TEAM game after all..
Scary Door1 votesWell, if I was against a scripter I'd probably just afk as well, especially a Riven. Pretty much can't compete with that.
In general I agree with you though that it sucks to have an afk, but there's not much that can realistically be done about it.
TeCoolMage1 votesStay under tower Don't try to trade Miss CS if need be Wait till late game when the top laner can literally go into PvE mode and farm a sidelane or the jungle
There was no reason to afk at all. Heck he'd actually be better off swapping lanes with mid who'd probably outrange riven and leave her with no options
BabyNaix1 votesIf the riven was scripting, your top would have fed her harder if he didnt afk.
Bromance1 votesThis is why you can't let something like that happen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cN4fk07MTA&feature=youtu.be
It becomes completely exploitable.
PORCHE 9111 votesthey should have to make at max 10 min for afk players 20 min is too much
