Riot is not Fair?

Squezye··3 votes·1,370 views

Beacuse I got ban for 10 games for verbal I dont get my gold emblem and victorious skin.This is not fair beacuse some players work for them rank all season and I play after that 10 games some games and I dont injure my team mates but I am still banned for getting drops why?Thanks

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Chamuel8513 votes

It's not like Riot didn't warn people that any bans longer than a week would result in no rewards. Why do you feel like your bad behavior should be excused? How would it be fair that I get the same rewards as someone who was ruining my games with his or her toxicity? If you want to talk about fair. Don't talk about fair when you are toxic enough to get punished.

Squezye1 votes

Its not fair beacuse I dont get my gold emblem

Chamuel8512 votes

Perhaps you should take it as a lesson that being toxic isn't a good plan? I think it's entirely fair that you give up your rewards by ruining other people's experience in league.

Hyperiön1 votes

It is 100% fair, they specifically said players who get in trouble wouldn't get rewards. You got in trouble, so you lost your rights to those rewards.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Think about it... It's a game. Secondly it's ranked, people get pissed off...

Now imagine it like this... You're watching world level football and people there play for the cup and shit... Have you noticed how some times they argue or verbally abuse each other? (the teams)

Do you know what happens at the end? No matter how hard they verbally abused, or even physically abused, they end up getting paid... All of them, because they played and tried in a ranked league in which they get a cup.

League of legends rankeds is basically the same, you try hard... you get pissed some times ,you flame some times... But unlike any actual sports you don't get what you earned, aka your ranked rewards after a whole year of try hard. Sure, that guy ruined your mood one match... But he did play as much as you and tried to win the rewards by gaining a rank. You gain that rank and at the end, you're told "You don't deserve rewards because you're a naughty person"...

Do you know what will happen if a football player or a boxer, or a volleyball player, or basketball player doesn't get paid at the end of the game, just because he flamed? He'll either quit the team/game or just sue them.

Do you realize that? League of Legends isn't just a game, it's a sport. Maybe not a traditional sport, but a sport. So you should get what you earned, no matter how stupid your mouth was. And league is the only game that punishes bad language, which isn't even that much of a factor... Because if it was they would of removed the chat ages ago... You don't need chat anymore, you got pings... You got linking system by using alt and click on a champion or timer, or even your ping...

The chat is literally useless, so you can easily just remove it if you don't want bad attitude ingame, but punishing for it, is just sad and incorrect.

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Chamuel855 votes

Well for starters, there is no actual similarity between professional sports and ranked league of legends. The boards likes to think it is, but:

  1. You're not paid
  2. You're not professional
  3. It's not an organized team
  4. Pro players can get banned from further games for bad behavior, so yes, bad behavior is punished.
  5. There are rules in place in professional sports laid down by the organizers of that league as well, so bitching about Riot's rules and then pointing out other systems with different rules where there are punishments for breaking those rules is dumb.

tldr; It's the rules. Most people agree with it. Only the toxic players I see bitch about it because they feel like being assholes is their right and being punished for cyber bullying (which is a crime in many areas) is silly.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Defending myself with sarcastic comments, or stating my opinion which clearly most see as flaming or cyber bulling, isn't illegal anywhere neither it's offensive to anyone who doesn't actually see him/herself in the sarcastic remark, which means it's a true fact and you should accept and fix that in yourself instead of crying and wanting me to get banned, for saying a truth you cant bare, even if I didn't say it's even sent towards you, but could be meant towards the air.

  1. yes you aren't paid, that's why restricting you from the only thing you win for playing like crazy whole year, is plain stupid

  2. You're professional as long as you play rankeds, you just don't get to the highest ranked tournaments where you actually DO get paid

  3. Most cases it is, giving the fact it's 2-5 premades in that game, doesn't excuse the fact you can use pings and information links instead of having a ingame chat, as clearly you're too scared of someone saying he likes your mother...

  4. pro players get banned only if they show bad behavior in public places, they don't even waste time to play with scrubs like us in the normal client, too busy practicing with their teammates and stuff and some rare cases they stream way too high elo to even see anyone having bad behavior as most are like robots there and don't even know that there's a chat.

5)The guy who made the ban system isn't even working for league of legends and when their own support team writes that the ban system is broken and don't use chat, you know the rules and system aren't actually proper and nobody can explain what are they still waiting... Maybe someone in Riot games is hosting the majority of bots and sells the level 30 accounts later to the perma bans so they just abuse it until people stop buying accounts?

Here comes the fun part, you'll come and tell me that I got no proof that there's bots... But you clearly never tried playing vs AI games, 90% of the time you play with 6 to 9 bots, instead of 5, because most of your teamamtes are on auto pilot and in a week or so the same accounts will be sold on different websites... ebay was one of these websites, not sure if they still offer it, but theres tons of websites that sell both scripts and accounts and are legit of doing so.

Now you'll come and claim I claimed riot do it and I got no proof and it's slandering. No sweet it's not I said "There might be someone", not that "THEY ARE"...

People aren't nice, that's a fact. You can't expect everyone to be nice. There's exceptions, but at the end of the day they are still people like you and... definitely not me, but someone else, whatever... you don't know what's with their lives, maybe they are some 12 year olds angry children, sure... but same time they might be just stressed and trying to take it out ingame, but then they get stressed ingame more and just flame and quit and go to bed. And don't compare my examples with murder cases, nobody died from getting called stupid... And people who commit suicide over such stuff don't do it because of someone ingame called them stupid, they do it, because they had an anger inside kept and collected over a huge amount of time and they were just like a time bomb.

So my sweety, after you downvote me 1000 times with your friends, will you even bother trying to consider what I said? still it's a fact, if you want to not get flamed you got both mute and the option to just remove the chat as you got enough ways to communicate with pings and links. Restricting you off your game account and rewards for calling someone stupid or just using sarcasm is even stupider.

Everyone in this game, except me is a person... People are different, live with it.

Chamuel855 votes

tldr; Systems are different. Rules are rules. Get used to it. Understand the rules. Live with it.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

I'm seriously next level stupid...

if I answer with some logic a huge post, I get that "idc live with it" answer... if I answer with "idc live with it" I get flamed to the air for it that I don't give long posts with information and stuff...

Nah really, I'm really next level stupid to even bother trying to speak to people like you.. .Clearly I'm getting trolled and I'm hardcore getting baited by it...

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Chamuel855 votes

No, I read it. There was so much wrong with the logic in it that I don't really want to write a 600 word response debating this with you.

Especially when you just dismiss the other person's opinion before they actually respond (not just me). This is the second time in a couple days I've seen posts from you where you think 'you are being smart and logical' while you're just throwing out logical fallacies left and right. Being dismissive and obstinate all the while.

So the 'revelation' you're trying to claim here is the same one I had where I just gave my short response. I just wasn't as whiney about it. It will just be another endeavor in futility. You have your views. I have mine. Neither of us will convince the other.

Fairyfleur5 votes

"Flame sometimes" It's possible not to flame.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

There's over 7b other people on this planet, not all are like you or Jimmy or Timmy... all had different lives and stories, so you cant say "You can just NOT flame"... If everyone was the same and it was that easy to "just not", then there would be no crime, no war, no corruption in this world...

Chamuel854 votes

Yep, and people who don't follow the law, typically end up punished as well. Why are you shocked when you don't follow this sports rules, you get punished?

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

This isn't a sports rule, it's a Lyte rule. And why is Hillary still free if people who don't follow the law get punished? Quit troll baiting me, of arguing with myself, clearly you got nothing to say and just throw randomly the same answer and when you dunno what to say you just go "idc live with it"

Chamuel853 votes

I'm not sure you understand the word 'typically'. It means usually. However, people in power tend to break the rules scott free. Are we as general league players in power (Aka work at or for riot)?

While you also don't seem to know what a logical fallachy is. There's the dismissive before the other person responds again. Clearly you have problems with differing opinions and don't know how to deal with it so you flail around and try to be smug thinking it means you're right instead of looking like a child.

And it's not that I don't know what to say. I just won't bother as much if the other person doesn't seem to know how to debate or discuss.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Wait wait wait, you drink much? You're the guy that hates on me for having a different opinion. I just give my opinion with facts supporting it, you just say "idc bye bye live with it"... rofl, your opinion is false as lyte no longer works for Riot games... and he's the guy who made the ban system/rules the first place XD

Plus how do you debate or discuss "You flame, you banned, me no care, me hulk! me smash"

Chamuel853 votes

Lol well based on how you do make posts, if I did drink a lot, we could drink together. but i don't

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

I don't like drinking with people who are rude and pretend to be nice and constantly offend me and my intelligence and bla...

ShinkoMinori1 votes

Lyte was fired...

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

I know. Why do you think I keep brining him up and the fact we still use his system?

HexaDecimel3 votes

His system is still used because he wasn't fired and its they system Riot wanted. He did his job and moved on to do other things. Not sure why that is such a difficult concept for you.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

He was fired and his system is still live because they cant make any other and they are abusing it currently for the mass acount and bot sales system. Once they get broken (which i doubt will happen any time soon) it will be change. Cheers.

HexaDecimel3 votes

Sounds like we all need to grab our tinfoil hats.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Prove me wrong that there's bots in 90% of the vs AI games.

RikoZerame

There are bots in 100% of vs AI games, with 90+% being on the enemy team. That's kind of the point of AI games.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Don't act dumb... We both know I was talking about the human team, not the AI... I dislike getting downvoted about stuff I posted via a different account and got a major amount of upvotes, clearly people have some person issue with me or my name...

HexaDecimel3 votes

In sports you can be penalized for verbal abuse and unsportsmanlike conduct. What's your point?

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

You cant be. Otherwise Grigor Dimitrov would of been kicked out of the tenis champioships ages ago, but he keeps going and swearing and doing aggresive acts without any penalties.

HexaDecimel3 votes

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/tennis/nick-kyrgios-fined-apologizes-for-insulting-stan-wawrinka-at-rogers-cup-1.3189586

Here is a link to a report of a tennis player receiving a penalty for verbal abuse, read if you want.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

still waiting for the post of Grigor Dimitrov who is in the top 100 world list, and sword mothers, fathers, dogs and cats and never got fined... OR Nicole Scherzinger gives him immunity?

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

He didn't pay the fine and got away with it without any punishment. so k

HexaDecimel3 votes

Do you have proof?

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

If you learn Bulgarian and watch the news from last month, sure got!

HexaDecimel2 votes

I don't think I will, tennis really isn't my thing. Thanks for trying though.

zrWQMdGHtY2 votes

All games reward you for skill. Riot rewards you for not using chat. Cheers XD

KuroCaliber9 votes

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All games reward you for skill. Riot rewards you for not using chat. Cheers XD

Riot rewards you for not ABUSING chat. There is a difference. Chat chould be used to help make plans, not brag about how you f***** their mom

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

ITs' a game ,you must be rewarded for your performance not, for basic first world problems, of people who cant take a sarcastic remark once in their lives... If your logic was correct then football player wouldn't get paid when they flame each other...

HexaDecimel3 votes

Football players can and are suspended for their actions on and off the field. Their salary is based on games played and performance bonuses. If a football player gets suspended he doesn't get paid.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

Football player gets supensded only if he physically hurts a player or verbally anyone who's NOT a football player. TY for playing.

Hyperiön4 votes

No, football players can get suspended for a lot of things, intentional injury, harassing players/refs, a bad attitude. They can get suspended for a lot of things. You don't want to get in trouble in League? Don't be a fucking troll and harass players. Simple as that.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

I get called a wh*re, I reply with sarcasm. Im the toxic person that guy is the victim... That's your current logic. Nothing more to add to it. So the system is sexist by your views of life? OR that's fair?

Hyperiön4 votes

What is the point of responding? You should already know that you could get in trouble for it. Two wrongs doesn't make a right. If people are spouting shit at you, just mute them and report them at the end of the game.

When did I talk about the system being sexist lmao? I said if you don't want to get in trouble, don't be a troll and harass players. The system is perfectly fair whether you agree with it or not.

Just because the other player is saying shit, doesn't make it right for you to be able to as well. They will get in trouble in due time. You getting the suspension just means that yours was 1: a lot worse, of 2; you have gotten a buildup of reports to get you in trouble.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes

I'll avoid reading your line 2 and 3, because you clearly are mocking me for having more than half a brain...

What's the point for chat to exist if you can link CDs, alive statsu , monsters and PING for missing, attack, help, care.

You'll lose the point of reporting/banning people because they wont flame you.

If you try to think instead of flamming me, you'll see my argument is literally the same quality as yours, but instead of banning for minor 2 year old kiddo stuff, you keep community and win more money, cuz they buy skins anyway... MIRACLE!

P>S Yeah I get often reports, for playing Kata jungle/support. Nothing I can do about it... Later 1 sarcastic remark which doesnt contain a single offencive word (cuz wh*re insnt top level offencive towards a female hashtag Pexagon logic), can get me banned.

Hyperiön4 votes

I wasn't making fun of you whatsoever, I am stating logic, you are just avoiding to read it.

1: Chat is there to communicate to the team, if you abuse it, you lose chat privileges. 2: I barely report people, unless they are seriously toxic, or trolling. 3: Wasn't saying your argument is invalid. I am saying that your logic is flawed to think that you can say whatever because someone called you a name.

4: I wouldn't report you for playing support and jungle. I see stupid troll picks every time. But if you are intent trolling, then I report.

Did I say that calling someone a whore wasn't offensive? No. I didn't talk about it at all. I simply said that replying back with offensive words, whether swearing, name calling, sarcasm whatever; isn't the right thing to do. I simply said to mute them and report them at the end of the game. There is no need to flame back.

Would I report someone for calling someone a whore? No, but I would if they continuously did it.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes
  1. U don't need chat, you got 1000 other tools to communicate.

  2. good for you, report me cuz I play Kata jungle and support. gg wp

3)downvoting me , means you sadi it's invalid. thread.

  1. you will call m e an intent troll because I don't wanna answer the same questions over 1000 times to 1000 different people and just ignore you. thread.

Nobody ever got banned for calling me a whre or slt. And I clearly stated that I use basic sarcasm with 0 offencive words nd still get punished and the other guy not. And sarcasm is a normal way to express and shouldn't even be counted as offencive/aggressive. And I don't use the mute function as it's useless, as the ingame chat option, if you wanna chat use PMS <3

And yeah, there's is a point t o sarcastically answer... it's called my personal pride and self confidence.

Hyperiön3 votes

1: Yes, but it is sometimes more effective than pings.

2: I never said that I would report you. Only if you were trolling or seriously toxic.

3: I didn't downvote you, someone else did.

4:See 2.

5: You don't know if they got banned or not, unless your report was the one to get them banned. I get it, it is offensive, and they should be punished, but a lot of stuff goes unpunished because the system can't possibly catch everything.

Whether your response was sarcastic or not, if you don't think what you said was offensive, maybe the person you said it too did think it was offensive, and reported you.

Mute is a great function. I get to mute toxic players who scream and curse everyone out. And then I simply report them.

You can respond to whatever you wish, but that doesn't give you the right to offend someone else because they offended you. Has nothing to do with pride or confidence lmao.

zrWQMdGHtY1 votes
  1. 0 logic, as writing takes time...

  2. I'm sure you will.

  3. Idk why u think it's cool to lie

  4. nope

5)If he doesn't get banned for calling me a wh*re, but I get banned for giving a sarcastic answer, because he got offended I know that the system is broken

Quit speaking crap how I'm always flaming. Sarcasm is neither offensive, neither it contains offensive words... Pride has lots of it to do, maybe you didn't have any in school and you got bullied, that's not my problem. I'm not letting some immature monkey to called me a wh*re just because he thinks it's cool, but later to act like I broke his face by using a sarcastic answer to it.

The system IS broken and Riot support has confirmed it enough time already.

Hyperiön2 votes

1: Writing something out can sometimes be more beneficial than pinging, as there are not pings for everything.

2: Again, didn't say I would report you.

3: I did not lie, quit acting like I am the only one reading this.

4: Again, see 2. Why would I report someone for playing something in a different role? I play stupid stuff in different lanes sometimes.

5: Now we are getting on a new topic of the system being flawed. I grant you that it is, thats a whole other story that I don't want to talk about.

Just because someone might not get banned for name calling, doesn't mean you won't for saying things back. And I am sure if you posted chat logs of a mute you got for being "sarcastic" as you call it, I am sure that it isn't sarcastic. or it is, but offensive enough to get a ban from it.

How am I speaking crap? All I have been saying is that it isn't right for you to think just because he says something, I can say something and get away from it.

Again, Pride has nothing to do with it. You can have pride in yourself, and simply take the higher road, stooping down to their level means you lack pride, so nice terminology there.

Also, nice try at insulting me, It really hurt. /s

And then there you go making fun of the person who supposedly called you a whore, Whether he did or not, idk That is harassment (even if you think it is sarcasm), especially if you called him a monkey, because it is a slang term to make fun of African Americans/Africans.

I could keep going all day on this. Your logic is flawed into thinking you can respond back with narcissistic comments. The system is flawed, but that doesn't give you the right to make fun of someone, even sarcastically.

How do you know that the person you are making fun of isn't suicidal? Or someone who struggles with depression.

It is the people like you in the community who give it a bad name.

TheKnightDK5 votes

Riot rewards you for not ABUSING chat.

Excactly, i could not agree more

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