Hey everyone. (2 posts in one) Lets talk about toxicity

yi8·10/26/2017, 9:51:59 PM·3 votes·567 views

Hey everyone, yi8 here I understand that maybe none of you know me, but I know all of you can relate to me. I can assure you if you read the entirety of my story that you feel compelled and intrigued. I will be completely honest, and or attempt to be, and I will strive to stray away from any bias. So you all are here to read the story about the fall, the rise, and the end of yi8. And don't worry for all those that came for the second post I will be posting a post that should' ve been added to the forums previously, but I couldn't because a form error and never came around to do it. So now for the train to memory lane.

As you all probably guessed I was banned. Permanently but I believe and some of my colleagues believe that the ban was unjustified, and after a bit of convincing and research, I am beginning to believe it as well. So let's go back to 04 Aug 2017, 01:57 AM where the reform began, now the chat is extremely long so i'll put some of the important bits in here. Before I continue it just reminded me of a friend of mine named Kyourin well not really a friend but he was the rioter that completely changed my heart entirely. Now to resume, here is some of it yi8: Do you uh, see the part of being actually trying to be positive again/ (02:04:26) yi8: Oh there it is :( (02:04:50) yi8: So its my fault. (02:04:55) yi8: Somehow. Alright. (02:05:48) *** yi8 has rated the chat Good *** (02:06:39) Kyourin: its not your fault (02:06:44) Kyourin: its just (02:06:50) yi8: It is my fault. (02:06:51) Kyourin: that fault isnt the thing behind this punishment (02:07:02) Kyourin: we try to hold everyone accountable for what they say (02:07:04) Kyourin: so (02:07:10) Kyourin: if someone instigates somethign thats not okay (02:07:13) Kyourin: but if someone retaliates (02:07:15) Kyourin: thats also not okay (02:07:22) yi8: But, I wrapped it all around, (02:07:25) Kyourin: we hold both accountable instead of only the instigator (02:07:27) Kyourin: what do you mean? (02:07:29) yi8: with trying to be positive again (02:07:41) yi8: And I never ran down mid ect. (02:07:45) yi8: I kept trying to win, (02:07:57) yi8: I stopped being toxic when I started saying "no thats you" just so he would stop. (02:08:04) yi8: I just started ignoring him and complimenting him. (02:11:31) Kyourin: thats good of you (02:11:34) Kyourin: I really respect that (02:11:41) Kyourin: but some of what you said was a bit unecessary (02:11:43) Kyourin: and negative (02:11:53) Kyourin: yi8: please COME FUCKING TOP yi8: SHUT THE FUCK UP ASHE yi8: IDGAF yi8: FUCK THIS WHOLE FUCKING TEAM yi8: FUCK YOU yi8: FUCK BOTH OF YOU yi8: YOU CAN SUCK ON A MEGA COCK (02:12:07) yi8: I guess. (02:12:17) yi8: But you have to admit, thats pretty flawed, (02:12:28) yi8: When me as a person, who's dealing with a ton of shit. (02:12:36) yi8: Not only stayedpositive after a constant barrage, (02:12:44) yi8: lets out a small (yes im saying small) retaliation, (02:12:48) yi8: then wraps it back up with being positive.

Long I know, but the chat lasted about two hours, and this is one of the most valiant rioters I have ever met I sent him in one message 1,523 words 8,027 characters, in the entire conversation we had sent 8,000 words to each other I know it seems kinda crazy but he helped me through a lot, at the time I was at what you could call rock bottom, I was dealing with massive amounts of depression because of medical problems with my father and his likeness of death, and a barrage of other terrible things that I would never wish for others now. What I did back then was extremely uncalled for, and I put my best to try to get a unban, but deep down I knew I deserved it, I could lie to others as much as I wanted but in my heart, I was extremely rude and unprofessional, so after that day, I understood what was necessary, strive to be a better player, and that's what I did I continued playing on yi8 when the ban ended and became spectacular, my play improved extremely I was getting extremely nice players, I personally believe it was because how I entered and finished my game, I tried to be the nicest I could and occasionally use curse words and abbreviations I tended to stay away from them `though as they can just be perceived the wrong way, I knew that saying a couple wouldn't get me banned because in the summoners code it's understandable to use them to add emphasis to certain things. So I'm at my peek I was making friends and almost 3 months pass without a suttle problem but then the dreaded day came, the day that I never foresaw the day that I thought had went away, I thought I had completely erased the possibility of a ban. I was struck with fear, extremely scared I was sure it was some weird error, maybe some sort of third party glitch, I checked my task manager everything running in the background, I checked the servers the forums everything, to no avail so I relogged, and I noticed I was permantly banned from league of legends. I was relived of all my fear, as I knew it had to be a bug with the instant feedback system, I read the chatlogs and was extremely excited to see my new reformed self (of course the doubt in my mind that what I said could've gotten me banned was still present) I compared it the old chat logs, and was astonisheed I had made an extreme improvement. The chat logs are as follows I understand that some of it may look toxic but it was all about perception, if you need the game I will happily send it if possible, until then I will just add parantheses explaining everything (Skip down to see a tl;dr of all the "BAD" chat logs) yi8: You know I would, but only to get away from somebody as ignornant as you Yi8 : Olaf stop talking yi8: so stfu Yi8: you guys are cocks These are the bad things you can consider from the entire chat Game 1 yi8: oh god yi8: no yi8: pl go top yi8: it sriven yi8: fuck yi8: its viktor to yi8: ill lose both. yi8: ok ill go top yi8: olaf plz camp me yi8: dad (riven viktor both problems for yas, normla chat for a team) yi8: yeah I lose both yi8: i've beaten a riven and viktor yi8: ??? yi8: wtf (riven was standing in a bush that she saw was warded) yi8: ye yi8: y no pull (was asking a question) yi8: no yi8: im not tanking (red was hitting pretty hard lol, so I had to back off) yi8: THAT FUCKING TUAN (Taunt by rammus was extremely good and he caught me while proxying) yi8: AHSJKASDKJH yi8: wp rammus yi8: y u laughing thresh yi8: dont make me call lucian yi8: i got hi mon speed dial yi8: yeah shut up nerd (Lucian video, watch it) yi8: when you die to the riven so she starts fighting she misses her w and qs bt the mininos kill u (I died to minions I found it funny) yi8: fuck yi8: u did yi8: lmao u killed me and went all in on me yi8: I beat you first trade you got me there because the minions yi8: u can keep talking big but come back to lane ( giving her that ALPHA eggs dee) yi8: nice flash :) (It was Noice) yi8: thanks btw (Thanks) yi8: oh blitzcrank did I not say i was going to lose (i dont know he said something about should've won against both) yi8: Im rpetty sure i made ti clear (I thoughtI did) yi8: so stfu (tbh its not that rude, not basing it off what he said, but just saying that in general is allowed since the summoner code says its ok to add emphassis to words, and if you tkae away the fuck, its just shut up with a little more ephasis) yi8: lmao yi8: of course your goinng to pull that, yi8: I try being nice to my team and makeit clear im goin g to lose yi8: but u just want to be cocks (describing my feelings to them and trying to get them to reflect on my feelings, so they would hopefully stop, my deliberation was that if I show them how i'm feeling maybe they will have emphasis) yi8: whatever I understnad (understood that) yi8: we're not winning this (Didn't actually quit, but I thoguht I had fed her and lost us the game) yi8: sorry zed u seemed reasonable. yi8: but im done. (Done meaning I am so behind that it would take a truck to carry me) yi8: gold yi8: but ok yi8: nah im being retarded ( admitted that i played retarded and am being retarded) yi8: since u guys are being mean (I knew that they had no empathy in them, so there was no reasons to add any more flame to the fire) yi8: cuz im bronze yi8: thats why yi8: can u guys all collpase on her yi8: I mean rammus came yi8: so its like intrest yi8: you know? yi8: ^ yi8: u are riven u shoudl be beating me yi8: but u lost tower :( yi8: and tp yi8: rip u :( (enemy team) yi8: Thank you! yi8: I mean me beating a riven makes me ecstatic! yi8: plz do yi8: im extremely toxic (sarcasm) yi8: alright well I didnt thnk they would gank right away yi8: I wont lose this turret though yi8: oh blitz is 11 (watch game) yi8: she ks'd lol yi8: there coming for me yi8: zed what do u want me to do yi8: i'm behind but ill catch up yi8: ur the only nice one, so ill win if you want me to. yi8: w yi8: wp* yi8: she has 100 health yi8: u got her yi8: yeah I fed her ( admitted) yi8: I mean I would hope I do yi8: I lose to her yi8: and I said that yi8: damn yi8: riven yi8: I can;t yi8: she will dive me, yi8: and nobody will help if she does. yi8: so I'm just going to either ks or take mid, yi8: I mean i've 1v1'd and beaten her yi8: but olaf thought it would be more important to get red then finish her. yi8: after she busted everything and had 1 health yi8: rammus and riven were top side yi8: u should've ulted wya arlier ( talking to blitz it wasnt a bad ult, because if he had ulted earlier there was a chance I could live) yi8: I could've gotten out yi8: nonetheless thats somehow my fault yi8: u were going to. yi8: I forgot my w cant block his no matter what yi8: kinda tstupid yi8: Olaf stop talking (nicely asked him) yi8: I havent went top I just died bot yi8: secondly you dont help at all yi8: u always come after yi8: so if anything you jsut took the words out of my mouth yi8: You know I would, but only to get away from somebody as ignornant as you ( This isn't rude at all) yi8: ignorant yi8: you should too, yi8: yep. yi8: nice ult yi8: kappa

There isn't much after that, so i'm just going to delete it, all in all, I know for a fact that this does not justify a permanent ban nor a chat restriction or any other supplemented restriction on my account. Not just by comparing it to other players or anything of that sort. But by the low quantity and quality, I guess because my account could be considered high priority because of the 14dayban, and the all caps and ect, it could be considered that. But i'm asking for everyone's opinion here, so Hope you all can have fun reading it all.

(I'll add the previous one later, CLICKBAITED) eggs dee

9 Comments

Karunamon10/26/2017, 10:00:04 PM2 votes

I don't want to respond to such a detailed thread with such a flippant response, so please understand that's not the tone it's intended in, but:

The chat logs are as follows I understand that some of it may look toxic but it was all about perception ... yi8: You know I would, but only to get away from somebody as ignornant as you Yi8 : Olaf stop talking yi8: so stfu Yi8: you guys are cocks

Every bit of this is completely legitimate justification for a ban. At the end of the day, if someone is being an ass and tilting you, your valid response is mute + report. Not counterflaming (that makes you a flamer), not "defending yourself" (as if you can defend yourself against text).

A general rule is if it's not helpful to your team as a whole, keep it out of the chatbox. Berating a wood-league player is not. Nobody has ever improved their play after being shouted at.

Pound the keyboard, punch the wall, yell out loud, whatever. You're more than allowed to relieve your stress, just not into the chatbox. All you're doing is getting other players tilted and making it more likely that your team is gonna lose.

archerno110/26/2017, 10:28:45 PM1 votes

From what i see ban is 100% deserved...

Sorin Alucard10/27/2017, 12:55:59 AM1 votes

yah if you were talking like that in my game I'd be like wtf? muted reported XD

also

why waste all that time typing in game? won't improve your chances of winning any

Magical Player10/27/2017, 8:58:07 AM1 votes

"There isn't much after that, so i'm just going to delete it,"

hiding the rest of the chat logs XD

Maldini3010/27/2017, 9:03:57 AM1 votes

Even if you were nice and didn't blame or insult your mates (which you did), you would be considered toxic all the same because you are writing a facking novel! This is way too much. Just play and don't talk (that much).