I got perma banned for someone else being toxic?

Mula Milan··1 votes·1,057 views

I really don't understand why I got perma banned. I was coming off a 14 day suspension so I thought okay, fair enough, when I get back I'll just mute everyone from the beginning of the game. Well, the very first game I played I had a xin zhao jg who refused to gank so I asked if he could gank and put some pressure on the map (politely). Then I get called autistic etc and that "I'm missing a chromosome". So I said he was retarded. The next day I log on and get the perma ban message. This is unfair, yes I should have muted him but how come he wasn't penalized while I was? I've been a loyal customer and consumer, who plays the game legit and has fun. Why do I get banned for being toxic to someone who is toxic to the whole team? I get perma banned but they get off scotch free? I need an answer because this is truly unfair. Thanks.

26 Comments

ModUlanopo7 votes

So I said he was retarded.

Right there's your problem. Think of it like getting into a shouting match in a movie theater. They're going to throw you both out regardless of who started it. The correct answer is to not get into a shouting match to begin with.

Mula Milan1 votes

Well said

AeroWaffle3 votes

when I get back I'll just mute everyone from the beginning of the game. ... Then I get called autistic etc and that "I'm missing a chromosome"

If you muted everyone from the beginning of the game, how were you able to read what he said?

Mula Milan1 votes

When you get into playing you don't really pay attention so that was my mistake to not mute everyone at the beginning

GoleBilon1 votes

lol you said he was retarded what the fuck do you expect ? even by my standards you are toxic and you should be banned , you dont know if he was penelized but even if he wasnt it does not matter

you were just out of 14 days suspension and everybody knows that after that everything thats bad will get you banned , doesnt matter if its calling smbd a retard or " 0/6 jinx you are bad mate ".

Its not unfair , if you think he was toxic just report him and system will deal with him at some point ( although i dont think system is working great , you are not the case where its broken you are the great explanation for people who actually think its working good )

Mula Milan1 votes

Idk, maybe I would fucking expect riot to ban the right person. The person who instigates and makes the game generally not fun to play, the person who runs down my lane after I asked him to put more pressure on the map.

GoleBilon2 votes

lol you called him a retard and you expect him to get banned for calling you a retard , lul you both deserve to be banned and yea he will get banned sooner or later.

If you expecter riot to ban the right person , they just did its disgusting to call smbd a retard , if you said anything else like " fuck man stop arguing " " stop calling us names stfu " or anything like that i would be on your side , but you are just like him its a well deserved ban and i hope you will never play this game again , there are people that are getting permabanned for just being tilted and their behaviour is not even close to yours yet you still belive you're on the right side when you acted the same way guy that harassed you -.- nice logic

Kei1431 votes

cos you are punished from the history of your behavior.

The consistency of your toxicity deemed you to be "unreformable" and thus banned you.

As for them, they could be chat restricted later, you'd never know.

GoleBilon1 votes

in this particular case its not even the history of toxicity made the work , he literally called smbd a retard , guy is just as bad as people he wants to be punished so he got what he wanted for them.

Mula Milan1 votes

He literally called everyone on our team autistic and was intentionally feeding lol.

GoleBilon1 votes

and he will get banned , just like you are banned for calling someone retarded ? you want to point smbds bad behaviour start from yourself kiddo.

Your whole point is " i called someone a retard because he called me a retard " you are just like him, i mean if you said smth like " fuck man just stfu" or anything else that was a strong way to stop the whole argument i would be on your side , but you acted just like him and you expect him to get banned and yourself as a good guy ? You were after 14 day suspension everybody knows that you will get banned for smth like that

DaNinad1 votes

If you are at the perma banned level, that means you have done something much more severe than call someone retarded.

GoleBilon1 votes

not exactly true , you can get to perma ban level just by being negative and tilted if it happens very often ( im the best example of that ) and after suspension everything gets you banned easy.

But in this case calling smbd a retard is beyond my understanding as i myself never did it and i was suspended earlier 2016.

Kei1431 votes

his main question:

I get perma banned but they get off scotch free?

and the answer is within the history of toxicity.

GoleBilon1 votes

i think you responded to wrong comment but i understand :)

Kei1431 votes

oh curse you for having so many posts on the same thread.

GoleBilon1 votes

my bad

TheLastShadow451 votes

The actions of others do not excuse your own actions. You were just as bad as the other person so both of you could be punished(at least you were for now).

Mula Milan1 votes

True.

Poro Snax1 votes

It doesn't matter how much money you put into the game; if you are going to treat people like crap, flame, etc. Then you deserve to be banned. Obviously since you just got off of a 14 day suspension, you have a history of being toxic af. Sorry not sorry.

Mula Milan1 votes

Never said it matters how much I put into it. True, but I don't treat people like crap. I play the game to win and when someone treats me like crap I say something back but I get banned and they get nothing.

Poro Snax1 votes

" I've been a loyal customer and consumer"

My issue with everyone who gets perma banned is that in their posts they always put "I spent x amount of money on this game how could you do that?!"

As if spending money means one is allowed to be an asshole.

Enselus1 votes

Wah

BlackHairedGirl1 votes

It's not unfair. While the other toxic player should not have said that in the first place, you lost your temper and said something negative back. Just mute them and carry on, no matter how your temper flares.

Abyss Gear Syxx1 votes

Yes it is unfair, this is life. Yes riot expect you to act like a robot and suck it up. Either learn how to mute, or say a response that is non offensive. "Why are you saying that? Don't you think that's a little overboard? Just because I am doing bad doesn't give you the right to label me autistic."

Yes if you are in the minority the game will be cruel to you. Many people play with their friends. If you play flex you will get banned more often for being curt or sharp with others than if you play solo. This is because the amount of bitch you can get away with is close to none. You would be lucky to get away with saying something simple as, "Please ward river before pushing lane." nevermind something with a bit of an edge to it.

Yes 'toxic' players are in the minority of the game. When I say 'toxic' i mean if you aren't in a group of friends and are trying to make friends here on league of legends. Most people here have a 'mightier' or 'holier' than thou complex and do not care about your suffering. If you want to make friends here you have to meet them outside of a game first.

Sometimes you are better off not dealing with whatever is causing to be pissed off than grow to accept it. You may need to grow to learn ignoring what other people say/tell you to do as a part of growing up. If you deem yourself unfit to judge yourself. then yes you are at the mercy of your 'peers'. If you are intelligent and consider your choices, [even the dumb ones] before and after you make them, you just need to grow up and decide that some battles aren't worth fighting. You can judge your own gameplay. and if not, perhaps look to see if they have a reason for saying what they did.

It's not worth fighting a company or children over a video game. This includes conversing about it. While I understand your response as a human being, unfortunately the game sees you as in the wrong. I also understand in a game that is time based, it's hard to articulate thoughts and complex sentences that don't hurt someone else's feelings. A lot of these people would actually be better off understanding that if what you said is true they are better off listening to it rather than getting annoyed. Chances are saying something like "You're retarded" is not of any use to anyone even you however. If you often get caught insulting people instead of doing/saying things that are beneficial to the game then chances are you deserve the ban.

"Could we please group up and not get picked off again?" "I really don't want to start dragon if river isn't warded." "I don't think it's wise to start a fight with the enemy with no ult." "Why are we pushing while they have baron?" "I don't get why the tank and support ran away with full hp while everyone else is fighting." These are the sort of things I feel are fair to say, and chances are if you let "You're retarded" slip out without much harassment at all then you are actually highly toxic. Even I cuss every now and then but I don't get 14 day sentences or even suspensions. I am not saying this as one of those "holier/mightier' than thou people. I am saying it as a person who has had an account banned in my first season of play.

As you grow up, you'll learn to articulate the reasons behind your frustrations and not just your frustrations. Nowadays when someone says something like "You must be autistic" I reply "Muted/Reported" "Just because I don't agree with your plan doesn't mean X" or "I did bad this game, but you seriously need to lay off, I am not a pro." Part of someone's frustration with you and yours with them should lie in a function of the game. If it isn't then you are already talking to someone without any form of sanity and you need to preserve yours by muting/ignoring without any recourse. As a bigger man you can suck up one comment long enough to mute hopefully. If not well... then maybe you need to start working on your temper control.

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