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I think that i was wrongfully banned, but want community feedback on the situation

XenoDude0706··1 votes·625 views

So, I got permabanned from the game. I understand that i have been toxic in the past and that has lead to the classic 2 Week Ban. But ever since that i have tried so hard to be nice to people in game even when_ they're_ the toxic ones. Now, I had a 3 game losing streak at my current elo of Silver 3, i'm not in the best mood, i'm not having a great time. So when a Renekton instalocks top and forces the aatrox who said he was top and can't jungle to jungle, that grinds my gears. We get into game, Fast forward 20 minutes and me and my premade support are doing ok, while renek is 2/6 in the top lane, aatrox is 2/5 in the jungle, and our viegar mid is 0/6. Fast forward again and the game has ended, with aatrox finishing 2/9, renek 3/11 and veigar 3/12. I understand that this is no excuse but i feel as if the things i have said are not enough to warrant a permanent ban from the game. Anyway, here is my chat log from that game, and looking back i can tell you that i'm bloody ashamed of myself for being such a damn child

yup... warlords on aatrox lol we're taking gromp rengar ult ggwp PKLS DO DMG its only 12 6 we can do this who fed rengar? aatrox gank? report renne instalock in champ seleve and now feed the rengar feed you guys fed him so hard 0/5 all muted and ggwp we lose good job feeding stop stop going top go mid groui me useful piece* 0 ganks all game report mid open mid end rene 2/6 call us noobs? rip your series boosted 2/7 tho ne excuses buy wards play safe report mid feeder no excuses for going 1/8 why do i get bronze teams? 1/8 ttho are you boosted ikr ggwp open mid end pls end end Emnd MNE# end the sooner they end the sooner i get to report all teh feeders ggwp THEY WONT SURR end they wont surr we have a troll who wont vote yes 0 peekl troll feed report aatroxc too report the people on my team who narly all have doubl digit dearths like wtf how 2/9 how daths... GGWP

Couldn't open in browser so this will have to do. Please be honest but i don't think this is worthy of permanent banning from the game

17 Comments

DeynaTaggerung7 votes

It's the way Riot's system works. After getting a 14 day ban you're more or less on probation, one or two mess ups and it's a perma. You're right that this on it's own doesn't seem like quite enough to merit a perma...but it is pretty negative and was preceded by things deserving of a 14 day. So they weren't really out of their rights to ban you.

It seems you really do want to improve and have been making a serious effort to. You can always start a new account and try getting back to where you are now. I know that's a frustrating thing to hear but if you want to be a positive addition to the game we'd be happy to have you back

XenoDude07064 votes

Thanks for the insight and i do have a second account that i can use (around lvl 20). It's gonna be frustrating to level up but i hope to be a more positive player for season 6 and hopefully reach my goal of Gold.

BakaNerd5 votes

While I am no expert in the Riot punishment system, the repeated requests to report other players is quite likely a reason, if not the reason, that you received the ban, as it is a reportable offense.

disregardable6 votes

You sure it wasn't calling his teammates boosted, feeding trolls? Cause that's what I think it was.

@OP: If this chat log is representative of what you're like in a significant number of your games, then you clearly have not reformed, and the ban is deserved.

I know it sucks, but if you decide to make a new account you need to be less negative in chat man.

BakaNerd4 votes

I am sure that those did not help.

XenoDude07061 votes

This is the one of the few, and i mean FEW matches that i have been reported in since that last ban. Does my positive nature in all the other matches not count for anything? Even when i have lost and atill been nice, I have one bad game and perma banned, it seems a little unfair but thank you for the feedback

BTW: NIce name [slayer-jinx-wink]

BakaNerd4 votes

Unfortunately, yes. If you are reported for violations after coming off of a ban, even if you are positive in other matches, shows that toxicity is still occurring, and a ban may be issued. From what I understand, permabans are manual, so it was reviewed. However, as always, you can submit a support ticket for more information if necessary.

EDIT: Thanks.

Amber Lynn1 votes

I think "not" being negative for a few months lowers the level of your potential punishment by a tier, but being positive does not, not that I aware of anyway.

Also I think when they review fur perma an the review all the ones from the before punishments not just the one or ones after the last suspension.

XenoDude07061 votes

I see, but is that a reason to ban me from the game permanently is now the real question.

BakaNerd5 votes

If you already received a 14 day ban recently, the next level is a permaban, so yes, the ban would be correct.

Kei1432 votes

I find it interesting how alot of people say "I don't think something this minor is permaban worthy"

People need to understand that this isn't like standing in front of the courts and have people decide what your judgement will be. If the toxicity is serve, its a permaban.

The 4 levels of punishment does not distinguish its severity, but by frequency. Even if its minor, if you are just coming out of 2 week ban, the next punishment (minor or not) will be a permaban.

There's lots of opportunity to reform, yet it was constantly ignored. This is not the only game you've been toxic, and there has to be a long series of your behavior being negative that lead to your permaban.

Eitherway, from your chat I see a few instances that you'll be tagged with negative behavior:

{quoted}

report renne instalock in champ seleve and now feed the rengar feed you guys fed him so hard all muted and ggwp we lose good job feeding

report mid

boosted

report mid feeder

no excuses for going 1/8 why do i get bronze teams?

are you boosted

the sooner they end the sooner i get to report all teh feeders

THEY WONT SURR they wont surr we have a troll who wont vote yes troll feed report aatroxc too report the people on my team who narly all have doubl digit dearths

More on the "negative" side of things than the "toxic" side of things. If you do decide to come back with a new account, relax a bit. Not everyone plays at a high gameplay level, they might have gotten a lucky streak, they may have been boosted, but it doesn't matter. If you are looking to climb in ranks, the only person you can look at to improve is yourself, and it starts with how you think.

If the game isn't going well, how about switching your thinking. Instead of continuing the game in the mindset to win, try changing your thoughts to another "objective" ... like mentally call out where the enemies are in fog of war and estimate when they will appear on your screen. That way you take your mind off the stressful game and also improve on your map awareness which you can use for later.

XenoDude07061 votes

Thank you for the insight. I can see how bad it is now and I hope to be a better player ready for season 6

Tract2 votes

Um, you say you think you where wrongfully banned, but then you say you know you acted horribly?

PIMPSMOOTH2 votes

So you're fresh coming off your 2 week ban which you know is the last straw for your account, and your third game back you're right back to being a negative Nancy 5 lines in with this crap - "ggwp" ?

You follow that gem up typing a worthless novel that ranges in:

  • bitching about someone's damage,
  • bitching about someone's champ selection,
  • calling for multiple reports on players,
  • calling 'open mid',
  • bitching that your teammates are all bronze,
  • retaliating and devolving the chat into an insufferable, infantile shit storm for the remaining bystanders

...and you actually believe you were wrongfully banned and opted to post this log on the forum to get feedback if this behavior is ban worthy?

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Give me a fucking break.

Yxion the Yordle2 votes

"You guys fed him so hard" "are you boosted" "why do i get bronze teams"

Nothing but negativity.

No one wants to play league and read chat full of someone complaining and pointing fingers all game.

It unfortunate that a "Permaban" does nothing since all you do is make another account and bring that kind of unwanted conduct back to the community.

Maybe in the future instead of berating your teammates you can analyze what they are doing and make positive useful suggestions to improve their gameplay, teamwork, and map awareness. Otherwise do everyone a favor and stay silent.

ModPrandine1 votes

Here's what I see.

  1. Constant calling for reports in the game (this is considered harassment and is indeed a reportable offense as well).
  2. Some passive-aggressive comments by you like these:

all muted and ggwp we lose good job feeding the sooner they end the sooner i get to report all teh feeders

  1. Accusations that your teammates have had their accounts boosted.

Definitely not the worst case that I've seen but I can definitely see why you got punished.

My advice:

  1. Don't call for reports, ever. Doing this only makes it more likely for the players performing and/or acting poorly to keep up that continued performance and/or behavior. If you need to report someone then just do it after the game without wasting time calling for it in the chat logs. Just mute, report and move on.
  2. Like with calling for reports, being passive-aggressive solves nothing and only makes you look like a jerk. If someone's playing and/or poorly, try to give them some friendly and respectful advice (or in the case of poor behavior, kindly and respectfully ask them to stop acting like that), and if they refuse to listen to reason, well then that's just their problem and not yours.
  3. How do you know that they're boosted accounts? What proof do you even have of that accusation? If someone's performing poorly, then chances are that they're just having a bad game-it happens from time to time. There is never any reason to claim that someone "must be boosted" when you have no proof that they are other than an overall poor performance in a single game. Just don't do that.

Now since you say that you've gotten permabanned it means that you received 3 punishments prior to this and ignored them all. Punishments work like this:

  1. 10-game chat restriction.
  2. 25-game chat restriction.
  3. 2-week game ban.
  4. Permanent game ban.

Also, you weren't punished for just this game alone, you were punished for poor behavior across multiple games aside from this one. I wish you the best of luck in all of your future endeavors, but I have to say that my verdict on this case is a solid punish.

P.S. It's important to note that ALL permaban cases are directly reviewed by an official Riot employee, so they deemed that you had no intentions of reforming after they went through your entire account history. You have no one to blame but yourself.

PDE5 Inhibitors1 votes

You now...they should honestly permaban people like the Rene who instalock a lane that someone has already selected. That would solve a lot of the "toxicity" issues in this game.

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