Player ran it down mid bot and top to cause me to lose my promos in rank. I believe he or she account should be ban for cause my discomfort fact I place my time to reach a certain point in rank for it to be crumble by a troll i refuse to believe I should be in this position and I should gain another chance to be back in rank as for that person check my match history the Master Yi watch the game, I know riot has the footage and you can see the pain I went through.
FireBlaze1004 votesIs it really that hard just to click the report button after game?
Lux OP3 votesIs it really that hard just to click the report button after game?
It doesn't do shit unless Yi said something incriminating. But if this dude (the OP) said "Yi stop being a fucking idiot, it's my promo" at any point he would be at risk for a restriction or even a perma if Yi or anyone else decided to report him. That's why the report system is trash.
Riot doesn't pull replays for int reports and watch them to see if it's legitimate. They don't have the logistics. The report system is a scam.
FireBlaze1002 votesI looked at the yis profile and he just seems bad. Inting and just being bad is two different things.
Lux OP1 votesI agree that they are two different things, but what do you consider the difference to be?
Thee Pie Man3 votesInting- intentionally feeding and/or throwing the game. VS Being unskilled- not intentionally feeding and/or throwing the game?
Intention is what makes the entire premise hard to track.
Lux OP1 votesAnd anyone who ints knows that and will say stuff like "oops" and "lag :)" and shit like that so they don't get banned. I watched it happen on some Master-level jungle stream.
Thee Pie Man2 votesAs in one game or multiple games with the same person? They have to be reported for the behavior for the system to begin monitoring for patterns, so depending on how believable it is to other players and the like might make it harder for them to get banned in general.
You've gotta remember that the systems in place are based around the community and that's technically who's deciding the initial report. The bot that hands out the things gain information from said reports to compile a case against them.
I'm not saying they should get a free pass, but the idea that everyone is going to be netted out of the millions of people that play League off and on any given month is going to be hard pressed. I'm surprised the game bans so many people that deserve it in the first place to be frank. I can't even imagine what they need to make the algorithm work server side and what keeps track of all the stuff going into it.
Lux OP1 votesThe thing is, people don't int or troll all the time, they just do it when they feel like it (they don't get the role they want, they don't get the champ they want, the team comp isn't what they want to play in). It's not necessarily a pattern of behavior, it might not happen all the time, but the damage it causes amounts to 4x(game time) + whatever negativity between players arises. Whereas the damage that a flamer causes is exactly how long you decide not to mute them.
The rationale that people deserve to be banned because of chat used to hold up when you needed to type "mia" or "rb", "bb", etc, and chat was important to playing well as a team. but the ping system is so good now (MIA, warded, help, on my way, back off, look at this) that it isn't necessary to even have chat enabled. I would absolutely play with chat disabled in ranked because all of the information I need to perform well in ranked is communicated through pings and having game awareness. Inting and trolling are categorically worse than flaming because there is no way to escape it, you have to play it out. But there's no option, you have to type a command to get rid of it that I completely forget about until someone starts tilting at someone else.
That's a shitty way to have to spend time that you set aside to have fun. It's also shitty that calling someone out or flaming them for being like that is treated as worse than actually ruining the game for others. Like, this is the only online game I've ever played where being a complete jackass and ruining it for four other people is possible in such a way that a troll can provoke 4 otherwise innocent players to break the ridiculously militant chat rules and get banned while not getting punished or having their behavior reprimanded in any way (in fact, they are encouraged because it gets the results they want). That's an objectively terrible system.
SeductiveCelery2 votesIs it really that hard just to click the report button after game?
It doesnt always work. In my perspective, two players that have done bannable offenses (shit I got banned for) didn't recieve equal punishment.
Don't believe me? Ok
ex1: Lulu blatently states "I'm going to int now, I dont care anymore" then ints. 0/12/0 stealing cs from adc.
ex2: Player says "kill yourself" in the abbreviation of course, twice and proceeds to flame.
Both of them get to play after they do bannable offenses, the system (lack thereof) fucks up.
The downvotes are people siding with a dysfunctional system! Bah! What do you guys even stand for? Anti toxicity or for toxicity? I don't know at this point. You white knights can't take any criticism to your perfect little system
SeductiveCelery1 votesIt doesnt always work. In my perspective, two players that have done bannable offenses (shit I got banned for) didn't recieve equal punishment.
Don't believe me? Ok
ex1: Lulu blatently states "I'm going to int now, I dont care anymore" then ints. 0/12/0 stealing cs from adc.
ex2: Player says "kill yourself" in the abbreviation of course, twice and proceeds to flame.
Both of them get to play after they do bannable offenses, the system (lack thereof) fucks up.
Now he downvotes me LOL! "Logic? grrrr. I can never be wrong!!!!"
Umbral Regent3 votesAnd then you assume that he downvotes you, and attempt to leverage that into an insult. Classy.
Besides, what exactly does downvotes matter?
SeductiveCelery1 votes[{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=aWPdwq5p,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2018-04-12T04:52:03.355+0000)
And then you assume that he downvotes you, and attempt to leverage that into an insult. Classy.
Besides, what exactly does downvotes matter?
He did lmfao
Umbral Regent1 votesOh? And how do you know? What tool could you possibly be using ('cause I know the Boards itself doesn't have one) to tell who downvotes you and who upvotes you?
(I already know the answer, though, and it's that you don't. Downvotes/Upvotes are completely anonymous, so you're just assuming who's doing what.)
Besides all that, though, you still didn't answer my question about what do downvotes matter? Getting hot and bothered about downvotes only shows (to me, at least) that you care more about approval/disapproval and your image than you do the actual argument you're presenting.
So, here's another question, too; even if FireBlaze100 downvoted you, why turn around and insult them the second you suspect it? Does that not ultimately defeat the purpose of a discussion - to get someone else to see your side - when you insult and shut out the other person?
You won't get anyone seeing your side if you make jabs and insults about their intelligence or their logic not aligning with yours, y'know.
FireBlaze1003 votesThese “examples” hold 0 weight to them when you ignorantly say it with no evidence, therefore I don’t need believe such lies coming out a person who lacks credibility.
SeductiveCelery2 votesThese “examples” hold 0 weight to them when you ignorantly say it with no evidence, therefore I don’t need believe such lies coming out a person who lacks credibility.
If I posted evidence wouldn't that be "name and shame"
<removed by moderation> Instantly in disbelief when they see their perfect little system not working.
ModPeriscope2 votesJust a reminder to keep our discussions civil. We can disagree on on how well (or not well) the punishment system works (or doesn't), but we can do so in a respectful manner.
In regards to what "evidence" you can post, as long as you're obfuscating the name of who you're talking about, it should be fine. This is always a slippery slope, since posting too much info helps your argument, while posting too little evidence makes people doubt your claim.
Lux OP2 votesWhat possible evidence can he post without it breaking rules?
EL HAMSTERO1 votesit sucks when it happens, but trolls will help you promote more than they will hurt you. just have to report and move on
