Not Impressed with Riot's System at all

Egohumble··4 votes·489 views

Slowly working my way up to 30, one level away from a keystone, woot. But so far along the way, this game is so toxic it makes it painful to play. I would say 1/10 games, if that, I get a decent match. Where both sides are nice, and work together as a team. No flaming, grieving, taunting the enemy team etc. Every other game, there is at least 1 intentionally feeder, most of the time tilted for one reason or another. There are definitely flamers every game, whether it be your own team or your opponent, taunting you, saying you suck, go kill yourself, uninstall please, pleasantries like that.

Quite aware there is a mute button, and have had to mute all before as it was ridiculous. Yet, I report, and report, and report, and nothing comes of it. You have players going 0/32 yet, running straight down lane feeding, all because they didn't get a champ they wanted, a lane, weren't babysat for the 5 mins the game has been on. Players with obscene and inappropriate names, like nia, ct, etc, nothing happens there. Great, we have a mute button, but there is nothing in place to deal with afkers and feeders. And they are fully aware that you can't ff until 20, because you need an unanimous vote, and they vote no to spite you. Even then, the vote may not go through.

I honestly don't know what can be implemented, maybe a vote to kick a player, rather play a 4v5 than 4v6. But then there is the argument that you could have people gang up and vote off a player they don't like. Maybe make it an option only if they have died so many times, or straight consecutive deaths. Or don't make early voting unanimous, but majority.

And the sad thing is, we are all learning the game and trying to be become better. So I don't know where these players think they are god's gift to earth as we are all sub 30 and unranked.

11 Comments

Drugoth2 votes

Geez your stats for amount of inters and toxic flamers is a little bit on the egregious side. Besides, I have a theory that certain personalities attract certain toxic behaviors. There is a small population of League that claims that all their games are filled with a toxic inting feeding flaming racist mess. I'm inclined to believe that not all of us have the same experience with league, and indeed we do.

I rarely see int feeding in any of my games for instance, I would say I see it in approximately 1/20 games. For real! And I'm talking ranked silver games. As for real hardcore flaming? Maybe every 1/10.


I shit you not

Maybe take a closer, introspective look at your own behavior and interactions with others if you are experiencing a high rate of toxicity in your games, you could indeed not be helping the situation if not exacerbating it.

Sorin Alucard1 votes

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Geez your stats for amount of inters and toxic flamers is a little bit on the egregious side. Besides, I have a theory that certain personalities attract certain toxic behaviors. There is a small population of League that claims that all their games are filled with a toxic inting feeding flaming racist mess. I'm inclined to believe that not all of us have the same experience with league, and indeed we do.

I rarely see int feeding in any of my games for instance, I would say I see it in approximately 1/20 games. For real! And I'm talking ranked silver games. As for real hardcore flaming? Maybe every 1/10.


I shit you not

Maybe take a closer, introspective look at your own behavior and interactions with others if you are experiencing a high rate of toxicity in your games, you could indeed not be helping the situation if not exacerbating it.

Although I agree with your post for the most part, the distribution of matches is not an even experience amongst players. Do I believe trolls/inters stop you from climbing overall? No. They can hinder you in a few promos and matches but overall if you're skilled enough to climb you will (I'm gold and have no delusions about being better than where I'm ranked atm)

However, I come across negative players all the time. Int feeders and hardcore kys flamers are rare, but tilting players that refuse to group or follow play calls and spam surrender/petty insults are pretty common in my games. *Its usually an after effect of autofill for either team. In my personal experience fighting and dodging over fill has become so common in rank that I pretty much quit queueing over it. It has nothing to do with me thinking "oh I can't climb in this shit system" but I can 100% say its less fun than just hitting up blind.

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Telephone Booth1 votes

Same, man. I might not even see them in 1/20. I don't even remember the last time I had a legit inter. People grossly exaggerate the problem and it's really frustrating to read. It comes off like people just making excuses and exaggerating to the nth degree. It's ridiculous.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

It is a low-level problem, by the time you hit 30 you will see far less trash, scum and generally worthless individuals who seem to exist for no reason other than spreading their sadness.

Except if you decide to jump right into ranked and get deservedly placed in bronze V due to having zero experience.

Normal Draft and Treeline tends to be the least toxic modes, Teeeline ranked also seems way chiller than SR ranked, it seems to be more adults and less raging brats trying to record Yasuo montages.

Also, a lot of the worst sub-30s are 'smurfs' (alt accounts) of people who got banned or in a state of total denial over being placed in the aforementioned Bronze V. Most of them are delusional and in a state of perpetual rage against a world they are too stupid to comprehend at worst, or just curbstomping and BMing all the noobs at best.

Sorin Alucard1 votes

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It is a low-level problem, by the time you hit 30 you will see far less trash, scum and generally worthless individuals who seem to exist for no reason other than spreading their sadness.

Except if you decide to jump right into ranked and get deservedly placed in bronze V due to having zero experience.

Normal Draft and Treeline tends to be the least toxic modes, Teeeline ranked also seems way chiller than SR ranked, it seems to be more adults and less raging brats trying to record Yasuo montages.

Also, a lot of the worst sub-30s are 'smurfs' (alt accounts) of people who got banned or in a state of total denial over being placed in the aforementioned Bronze V. Most of them are delusional and in a state of perpetual rage against a world they are too stupid to comprehend at worst, or just curbstomping and BMing all the noobs at best.

I hate to say it, but that pre-30 experience is def filled with smurfs of all levels and brand new players get exposed to the worst shit at that time. Mute all til 30 lol

GreatWhiteNorth1 votes

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It is a low-level problem, by the time you hit 30 you will see far less trash, scum and generally worthless individuals who seem to exist for no reason other than spreading their sadness.

Except if you decide to jump right into ranked and get deservedly placed in bronze V due to having zero experience.

Normal Draft and Treeline tends to be the least toxic modes, Teeeline ranked also seems way chiller than SR ranked, it seems to be more adults and less raging brats trying to record Yasuo montages.

Also, a lot of the worst sub-30s are 'smurfs' (alt accounts) of people who got banned or in a state of total denial over being placed in the aforementioned Bronze V. Most of them are delusional and in a state of perpetual rage against a world they are too stupid to comprehend at worst, or just curbstomping and BMing all the noobs at best.

Stop spreading the myth that Bronze V is toxic. It is way less toxic thab Silver V or IV, which are the highest leagues I've played in.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

Bronze V is an absolute shithole compared to high silver/low gold, i dont know about low silver, but i would imagine it is a lot of the same players.

I used to spectate a lot of games of a BV friend, and it was like watching stand-up comedy. Every team had inters and trolls, AD jungle blitzcrank that just sat in top lane all game, and according to the friend, perpetual rude and obscene chat.

GreatWhiteNorth1 votes

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Bronze V is an absolute shithole compared to high silver/low gold, i dont know about low silver, but i would imagine it is a lot of the same players.

I used to spectate a lot of games of a BV friend, and it was like watching stand-up comedy. Every team had inters and trolls, AD jungle blitzcrank that just sat in top lane all game, and according to the friend, perpetual rude and obscene chat.

No you don't get it. I can't remember exactly, but Bronze has about 30% of the players and Silver 40%. 30% of the players are shared between Gold, Plat, Diamond and challenger. The skillgap between the lower tiers is much larger and because of this, it is extremely rare to see anyone more than one tier above you (ie, a BIV would never see a BII).

And frankly, Bronze is an order of magnitude less toxic than silver. Only time I've seen it get really toxic is when EU "Silvers" show up in NA Bronze V.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

Entirely wrong, i see bronze, unranked, gold players in ranked. Tons of people within 5 divisions though.

Telephone Booth1 votes

You two have such a small sample size to judge from. You're both making gross generalizations as if they're fact. Like you're literally arguing about a stereotype lol. Just stop.

Telephone Booth1 votes

Damn you got shitty luck. I almost never get intentional feeders. It gets better when you get to level 30.

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