entitled supports

Geeky Geeky·Oct 12, 2018·2 votes·1,953 views

anyone else have a problem with getting supports or maybe even just any laner that are super entitled and only look at scores and judge you on that?

like i just had a nami in my game and i had taken a blue that she was very very very slowly killing cuz it was still fairly early to mid game and i playing as zoe thought i could use it (and also because during early laning she was spamming ? ping in my lane when they had roamed down even though they were posing no threat to the bot lane), not to mention i never really heard of supports needing buffs more than actual damage champs and roles. She starts going crazy with pings and talking about how i was "int-ing" with 2 deaths and how she has 3 kills when i didnt have any (as if she didnt take them like most namis do), but she had probably 2 times the deaths than me, so 4, and to an enemy vayne no less. She was so mine mine mine about blue and constantly pingging any summoner spell i had on cooldown.

just i really hate these people that think everything needs to go to them cuz they have a "better" score, as if any stolen kills negate the deaths given to an enemy carry that ultimately fucked us over in the end game

14 Comments

Imperial PandaaOct 12, 20184 votes

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Pot, meet Kettle.

VoldymortOct 12, 20184 votes

https://imgur.com/t1xov7W

ViralSurvivalOct 12, 20184 votes

The majority of players feel entitled. Many people like to think that they are the best on the team.

You talk about how better score is what everyone talks about and how it isnt the most important thing, yet its one of the key points in your argument.

On the question of who needs blue buff its dependent on game state there are times when a ap damage dealer needs it and times when the enchanter healer needs it. i dont think you would ever find an adc that is unhappy that the nami sona soraka they are with can now essentially spam heal spells and damage buffs off cooldown for the next 2 mins.

Also think of it this way when u are trying to kill a blue buff solo early game and then someone on your team comes and last hits it from you, would have absolutely no reservation about that?

You also seem to have the train of thought support should not take kills and may be a person who spams KS in chat when you dont get a kill, you may not. Its situation dependent. Pyke, by all means take the kills, pyke gets stronger and adc gets the gold anyway. back when you had to buy sightstone, having one 3-4 minutes earlier was a huge advantage to bot lane. And really is any adc unhappy to see ardent censor on a Sona 5 minutes sooner than she should normally have it? But as I said it is dependent on other things eg. draven being the adc kills are super important to him.

Arcade LuluOct 12, 20184 votes

I mean, as a support it's takes really long to kill a buff and if you just stole it from her And Nami actually kinda needs a blue buff because her heal costs so much mana

You're the entitled one

VoraciousXOct 12, 20181 votes

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I mean, as a support it's takes really long to kill a buff and if you just stole it from her And Nami actually kinda needs a blue buff because her heal costs so much mana

You're the entitled one

To be fair enchanter supports get mana regen out the ass due to their items. Maybe early(like before they even have one item) they need some mana, but if like OP is saying she was dying a lot then she would have given up the blue buff rather quickly anyways. Especially if the enemy was a fed Vayne.

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We must be living in an alternate reality.

People that play enchanter supports like Nami aren't likely to care about "scores," because there's always that guy that says "Nami you're 1/4 lmao," when they're 1/4/20. I find it interesting that you don't notice that. That combined with the fact that you just straight up took the blue buff she was working on without asking tells me that you're the one being entitled.

Enchanter supports are the most likely to be aware that a KDA doesn't mean everything. On top of that their stats aren't often highlighted in the post-game screen. Their kits are less about damage and more about utility to help the team, and a blue buff for Nami would have been very helpful to the team.

I just looked up the game and the Nami is 3/5/8 while the Zoe is 0/5/10. The Zoe had more assists than the Nami did, however the Nami was in a lane against 2 people, so that's 2x the chances for kills/assists. The deaths the Nami gave up were also more important because they were to hyper scaling late game champion who eventually went on to be 17/6/5 whereas the mid laner went on to be 3/4/8.

Baby GhoulOct 12, 20181 votes

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To be fair enchanter supports get mana regen out the ass due to their items. Maybe early they need some mana, but if like OP is saying she was dying a lot then she would have given up the blue buff rather quickly anyways.

They have the least amount of income, and enchanter supports like Nami don't have wave clear. Their items take a while to get. Even with Athenes right now her W is expensive, and that takes a decent amount of time to build when you're struggling in lane. There are many instances where it is good to let a mana intensive champion like Nami get a blue buff, especially if an ADC is struggling to keep a presence in lane. Her W is so powerful right now.

VoraciousXOct 12, 20181 votes

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They have the least amount of income, and enchanter supports like Nami don't have wave clear. Their items take a while to get. Even with Athenes right now her W is expensive, and that takes a decent amount of time to build when you're struggling in lane. There are many instances where it is good to let a mana intensive champion like Nami get a blue buff, especially if an ADC is struggling to keep a presence in lane. Her W is so powerful right now.

They also have the cheapest items, and get gold by dealing damage to enemy champions. A Nami with 12k gold is equal in build to any solo laner with 16k gold. Both would be full build by that point.

As for giving supports blue buff, I don't think that would have helped if the Vayne already had 4 kills while the Jhin likely had one or two, considering he only had like 4 kills all game iirc. Nami would have just given the blue buff to Vayne, and likely given her an even bigger power up. It was probably the better call for the Zoe, who's going to be spamming spells much more often to have it. I doubt the Nami was even using her full mana bar by the time she died unless she was using her abilities every time they came up. Again, she was facing a hyper scaling late game marksman who already was taking over the game. There was likely no winning that game anyways, but a carry needed to get some kills, and if Nami was the one getting all the kills Jhin would have gotten, there was no hope for that lane. You can argue that the Zoe didn't get any kills but she got more assists than that Nami, so it means she was at least almost getting kills, which would have been better than a Nami having them. Also if the support had as many or almost as many kills as the ADC, I highly doubt she was behind in items. The only reason for a support being behind in gold is because they give up kills in exchange for their ADC getting them. This wasn't the case for that Nami. I've played support as Bard before and had more gold than my entire team because I was actually getting kills, despite having 0 CS.

zPOOPzOct 12, 20183 votes

you don't sound like you think you're entitled to that blue buff you rudely took without asking yourself....

I need to go make an "entitled mids" thread referencing this post

Telephone BoothOct 13, 20181 votes

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you don't sound like you think you're entitled to that blue buff you rudely took without asking yourself....

I need to go make an "entitled mids" thread referencing this post

Hehe im an entitled mid xD but i play anivia. Ill take that fucking blue if jg isnt AP (and its the third blue, they can take first 2, I understand) but i dont bitch about it if i dont get it. So maybe im not "entitled". I know its not mine, but if its there and im around, im taking it.

zPOOPzOct 13, 20183 votes

If blue just sitting there, sure.

When someone is in the process of taking it, it is very rude to come in and pull a last hit without asking like it belongs to you like some kind of rights. When you pull a dick move like that (like banning someone intended pick), even if it is not against the rules whatsoever, you have zero right to turn around and complain about a pissed off teammate...

Baby GhoulOct 12, 20182 votes

We must be living in an alternate reality.

People that play enchanter supports like Nami aren't likely to care about "scores," because there's always that guy that says "Nami you're 1/4 lmao," when they're 1/4/20. I find it interesting that you don't notice that. That combined with the fact that you just straight up took the blue buff she was working on without asking tells me that you're the one being entitled.

Enchanter supports are the most likely to be aware that a KDA doesn't mean everything. On top of that their stats aren't often highlighted in the post-game screen. Their kits are less about damage and more about utility to help the team, and a blue buff for Nami would have been very helpful to the team.

AlzonOct 12, 20181 votes

Good ol’ en_tilt_ed Boards

Telephone BoothOct 12, 20181 votes

Lol i once took blue from an MF adc, AS ANIVIA, and her response was "alright, afk" and she waltzed (strutted?) back to fountain and afk'd. Lol silly kids.

zPOOPzOct 13, 20181 votes

Took blue when she was in the process of taking it for herself? Dick move man... I don't care if blue would be much more useful on anivia than on mf. If someone already working on blue, you don't come in and take it like it belongs to you if they don't ping for you to take it. It's not against the rules to do so, but you can't complain when they get pissy if you instigated it. Rude teammate calling other people rude/silly...