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Banned for chat profanity and "hate speech"

SlimyEggbert··4 votes·2,185 views

Okay so i understand that they want people to have their little safe space and all but it really just disappoints me that I'd get a 2 week ban for using the word "F*g" and other profanity which i understand is in their player agreement but we are not in preschool. Players have the ability to mute others for a reason. I would like riot to maybe rethink their ban and report system, i would be fine if i got a 2 week chat ban or couldn't chat, but 2 weeks is a bit much. I really enjoy the game and would like riot to actually ban the people causing problems in game ex: Inting or Purposely losing and trolling (not just playing bad, cause we all do sometimes.) . And why does there have to be a permaban, i think its kind of obnoxious to completely ban someone from the game UNLESS all they do is troll. Cursing, performing poorly, and spam pinging should 100% not be banable offenses. If anyone feels the same lmk down in the comments and maybe we could get rito to change some things around. Thanks :) [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

49 Comments

SavageConcordia7 votes

we are not in preschool

No, they are treating you like an adult, in the real world, where there are rules and consequences for your actions. Do you know what would happen if I went into work tomorrow and called someone a racial or homophobic slur? I would very quickly get called down to HR and then either get suspended or fired. This is how the real world works, there are things that people just don't want to hear and you calling people homophobic slurs is high on that list.

SlimyEggbert3 votes

I agree I would never use this language in a work place but am i working? no I'm playing a game i love to play Post work and relieve stress and have fun. And if they don't want to hear or see it on screen there is a_** MUTE**_ button for a reason. I'd love people to stop being so sensitive and learn to not be offended every time they hear something they don't like

TrulyBland3 votes

I'm playing a game i love to play Post work and relieve stress and have fun.

Yeah, and others want to do that, too... and they want to do it without having to choose between preemptively muting everybody in the game and being called a homophobic slur (or really just seeing a slur for their sexuality being used as a childish insult).

SlimyEggbert3 votes

Guess not everyone shares the same ideals as Tyler1 and I, really hate this "safe space" BS

TrulyBland6 votes

Since you still seem to not get it, and you didn't like the work-analogy:

How about this. Imagine you didn't play online, but you went to a game night with "real" people. Still strangers though. And now imagine you start calling people you have never before met in your life heavy slurs.

How long do you think, in this scenario, will it take for the host to kick you out of their place?

This has nothing to do with safe space mentality. This is about people like you failing to exhibit basic decency when talking to strangers during what is supposed to be a fun activity for everybody involved, and it is about people like you perpetuating insults that implicitly ostracize certain groups that are, possibly by others, still very much explicitly ostracized with the help of those exact words.

This is all about people like you failing to understand that they don't live in safe space bubble, and that their actions and words will actually have consequences.

SlimyEggbert2 votes

Yeah but the thing is i don't get offended or find it inappropriate to rage because this is still just a video game online, which idk why so many people care. Do you recommend i just go play cod where everything isn't monitored by mommy, daddy, and easily offended or people who don't like inappropriate language? And please don't talk to me like i'm unable to understand your point of view. I do, its just wrong.

TrulyBland6 votes

And please don't talk to me like i'm unable to understand your point of view.

Well, you don't. You clearly don't.

Because you are still talking about "inappropriate language". This isn't about swear words. This is about explicitly insulting other players and implicitly insulting an entire group of people by using a slur for their sexuality as an insult.

Calling what you did "inappropriate language" is like claiming you were just being clumsy after intentionally punching somebody in the face. You didn't just accidentally offend somebody, and nobody just randomly chose to be offended. You wanted to offend and you wanted people to care or you wouldn't have decided to insult them.

Do you recommend i just go play cod

Yes. Yes I do. Because from the arguments you are using you probably won't even begin to understand what this ban is about before you get permabanned.

SlimyEggbert1 votes

I get it they got offended because they have some disability where they can't differentiate actual reasons to be upset and someone flaming you online. Its a fucking video game bro you're really acting like people are hurt by these words online. I'm here to play, rage, and have fun. Did i intentionally feed? no, Did i throw the game? no, Did i put my team in a position where it was all my fault for the loss? no. Okay so i didn't effect the game play which is what everyone cares about. That's why they play the game, i didn't cause a loss so they're is no need for a ban. You truly have that attitude where its only acceptable to be kind to everyone. Get over yourself no one cares, cursing in a game is the least of anyone's problems in life buddy.

TrulyBland2 votes

they can't differentiate actual reasons to be upset and someone flaming you online.

Yeah, actual reasons to be upset... like others being bad at a video game?

Look, here's the deal, you are here to play, rage and have fun... the vast majority of people are just here to play and have fun... and having a raging asshole in their game may not prevent having fun altogether, but it absolutely doesn't help it.

If you are here to rage, you found the wrong game for yourself.

SlimyEggbert1 votes

Thank you for opening my mind, appreciate it. Make me a list of games i'm allowed to play please:)

SlimyEggbert1 votes

And its not like i go into every single game and do this shit, this happens once in a blue moon where i lose my temper because of completely asinine plays and talk. Generally i try to encourage my team to help and learn what to do, but when no one listens and wastes 30-45 min of my time. I'm allowed to get mad idrc if they get upset by it, if they do they shouldn't be online.

TrulyBland2 votes

I'm allowed to get mad idrc if they get upset by it, if they do they shouldn't be online.

Your problem in a nutshell. You are allowed to get mad. Others are not allowed to be upset. If you don't see anything wrong with that, I honestly don't know how to better explain this to you.

SlimyEggbert1 votes

They can go ahead and shit on me, flame me idc i can take what i dish out. But banning is different start reading to understand. Them being upset is fine but them being able to ban me because they're upset is pointless. Basically your saying if someone is having a bad day on my team and flames me for being shit or whatever, either you realize yea i'm playing like shit let me try to not feed or farm more or you report them for upsetting you in your SAFE SPACE and ban them LOLLLLLLLL

TrulyBland1 votes

They can go ahead and shit on me, flame me idc

Which is why it would be fairly pointless. You don't get to choose the consequences for your actions. You know why? Because this is not the safe space that you desire so much. You can't just behave like an asshole and then insist on being "punished" in a way that you don't care about.

SlimyEggbert1 votes

Not the point, yet again. I'm talking about my flaming isn't affecting their ability to play the game is it? so my punishment of 2 weeks **UNABLE TO PLAY A GAME ** is doing much more damage then me cursing at someone.

TrulyBland1 votes

It is affecting their ability to have fun, which is the primary point of games to begin with.

And once again: You don't get to choose your punishment. If you're upset about your punishment: Great. That's the point of this punishment. That, and giving you a two week timeout to think about this.

EvilDustMan1 votes

{quoted}

Not the point, yet again. I'm talking about my flaming isn't affecting their ability to play the game is it? so my punishment of 2 weeks **UNABLE TO PLAY A GAME ** is doing much more damage then me cursing at someone.

Flaming makes an already tense game more so. And it's vastly annoying.

Silent Gravity1 votes

You're allowed to get mad, but if they get upset (mad) by it, they shouldn't be online? If we follow your reasoning a little, why are you allowed online?

SlimyEggbert1 votes

hmm because i wasn't personally offended by losing a game or getting flamed, i just flamed back without being a sad little child and reporting them for being mean ;(

SavageConcordia2 votes

i love to play Post work and relieve stress and have fun.

Most people play for fun. You know what most people don't consider fun? Strangers shouting racial and homophobic slurs at them over a game. This isn't an issue of people being offended or to sensitive, it's an issue of you refusing to treat people with even a sliver of respect.

Also it isn't just work where these rules apply, go to the gym, go to a bar, go to the movies go pick a fight with someone and start calling them these things and see what happens. There is literally nowhere in decent society where people accept the sort of behavior you are displaying towards random strangers.

AriCei4 votes

Aha treating you like an adult. No that is not the case.

I only partially agree with the OP, because I am ALSO against homophobic and racial slurs as well- you know, actual hurtful/hateful things whether used in understanding or not.

However, similarly to his point, calling people noobs, or even shit, in some circles, is pretty acceptable. This isn't a job. It's meant to be a community, you know, of friends? Friends can call each other meaningless names all the time as banter.

In the "real world", in the context of a GAME, there are certain things that are pretty socially accepted compared to a job. Riot's system has forgotten this.

SO, while yes, please don't resort to actual hateful speech, people need to grow up a bit themselves if they can't handle being called a noob. Which yes, is a bannable offence as well if done enough times.

The system is way too out of touch and harsh when it comes to banter. There IS a chat filter and muting for a reason. Temp/Perma bans on accounts don't need to be thrown around indiscriminately against semi-abrasive social interactions.

Layorz1 votes

Yeah, currently you can get banned for telling a friend "kys" if someone else reports you for it. Context matters

SlimyEggbert1 votes

Listen to this man he is correct, I really want to get in touch with riot about this. Cause im scared to even joke with curse words anymore cause it could result in a perma ban. And yes it was totally out of line for me to use Homophobic slurs so i understand my actions.

EvilDustMan1 votes

{quoted}

Aha treating you like an adult. No that is not the case.

I only partially agree with the OP, because I am ALSO against homophobic and racial slurs as well- you know, actual hurtful/hateful things whether used in understanding or not.

However, similarly to his point, calling people noobs, or even shit, in some circles, is pretty acceptable. This isn't a job. It's meant to be a community, you know, of friends? Friends can call each other meaningless names all the time as banter.

In the "real world", in the context of a GAME, there are certain things that are pretty socially accepted compared to a job. Riot's system has forgotten this.

SO, while yes, please don't resort to actual hateful speech, people need to grow up a bit themselves if they can't handle being called a noob. Which yes, is a bannable offence as well if done enough times.

The system is way too out of touch and harsh when it comes to banter. There IS a chat filter and muting for a reason. Temp/Perma bans on accounts don't need to be thrown around indiscriminately against semi-abrasive social interactions.

It's annoying. If you can't stop being annoying, you shouldn't play multiplayer games.

AriCei1 votes

Look at the title of this very thread to gain some perspective. YOU can mute if it's annoying you. Not everyone is annoyed by it, and at best SOME are annoyed by it. Most could care less.

But the system reads 1 report the same as 9, so if one person gets their panties in a twist about something completely acceptable in most circles, it CAN and DOES lead to permabans.

The Skull King2 votes

Well it's okay pal, you'll be getting that perma next and you'll be back here with all the item 3070 like everyone else who doesn't take the two week ban as a serious sign to reform yourself.

By your post here, I don't think you'll be missed.

imperiorgamer1 votes

Hard down vote for toxic and ignorant

Aatrox Mid 1v51 votes

They started issueing two week suspensions before issueing any kind of chat restriction. its kind of ridiculous. but at the end of the day its better for the community.

SlimyEggbert1 votes

I agree and i was in the wrong for saying those things but i do not think it was needed to place a 2 week ban, im fine if i dont have any honor points but id at least like to be able to play the game.

AriCei3 votes

Yeah they aren't really in to giving you a chance to learn from mistakes. It's all heavy handed out of context nonsense. Punishment should fit crime.

SlimyEggbert1 votes

exactly what i mean, i understand i acted out of place and shouldn't have said that, but they could have given a warning such as if u continue to do that in game u will receive a temporary ban. And you know what would happen, i wouldn't do it again. Problem solved???

Silent Gravity1 votes

This is the warning that if you continue to do this, you'll get perm banned. If you don't do it again: Problem solved.

SlimyEggbert1 votes

Nah this isn't a warning buddy, this is an action taken. I'm banned for 2 weeks thats not warning. Didn't know how cancerous these boards were [slayer-jinx-unamused]

BeatzBoyFTW2 votes

Nope, you just don't like hearing responses that doesn't agree with you. This is the typical response from the last 1000+ punished players whose threads we've responded to.

And yes, chat restrictions & 14 days suspensions were already considered "warnings" & "2nd chances". I suggest you watch your own behavior if you plan to keep this account.

AriCei1 votes

Ugh. You could spin what you said directly around on to yourself and it has the same weight as a "point" in a discussion.

The issue is really the thin ice and how sensitive the system is. You don't ever have to engage in anything nearly as offensive or negative as "kys" or slurs to get put on that ice and have an account banned. That's the point he's made repeatedly. He is acknowledging what he did was wrong, YOU just don't like the responses that don't agree with you maybe..

ModPeriscope1 votes

They give escalated punishments for hate speech and encouraging suicide (kys). In no way should this be allowed in game. To put these offenses on the same ground as others would be absurd.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Having a mute button does not give you free rights to curse as much as you like. Mute button is just there to zip up your profanity for comfort purpose until being able to report you after the game ended.

Also, do you have any previous punishments? If so or not, post your chat logs.

SlimyEggbert1 votes

"SlimyEggbert: i wasnt SlimyEggbert: sure papi SlimyEggbert: Gg SlimyEggbert: youre a %%%% SlimyEggbert: report azir SlimyEggbert: kys azir he attacked me when i was dancing SlimyEggbert: azir ur a fucking %%%got" DO NOT BAN ME FOR LONGER FOR POSTING MY CHAT LOGS

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Riot already has your full chat logs, I'm only asking you to post here just so we're able to see how severe your behavior was in-game.

But after reading these specific parts:

SlimyEggbert: youre a %%%% SlimyEggbert: report azir SlimyEggbert: kys azir he attacked me when i was dancing SlimyEggbert: azir ur a fucking %%%got"

I can say you're pretty damn lucky that you only landed a 14 days suspension, cz words like "f*ggot" and kys can trigger the system to skip punishment tiers. Also, you don't look like you're "joking" at all...

SlimyEggbert1 votes

hmmmm guess its just a my b kinda situation, well guess ill have to reform my wild behavior.

SlimyEggbert1 votes

So for further reference am i allowed to curse in game or is that banable, what am i allowed to and not allowed to do?

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

So for further reference am i allowed to curse in game or is that banable

Straight answer: NEVER.

what am i allowed to and not allowed to do?

Few things to note about the system:

  • The system does not care about context. Difference between "You're a %%%" and "Ahh im such a %%%" won't matter as they will just trigger the system by looking at that word.

  • The system does not care about what the other guy said to you, as the system punishes you from your chat logs alone.

  • You need to start reforming your behavior by trying to type less (typing stuffs like jungler's here & here's warded is okay) & focus more on your gameplay, as it requires you to reform in a minimum of 3 months to lower down your punishment tiers. One few slights of toxicity, and you're straight permanently banned.

  • If you see someone flaming at you, just mute & report him later, don't talk back at him.

SlimyEggbert1 votes

so if i curse and then someone reports me i can get perma banned? I'll really sue them for that with the amount of money i have in this game to be perma banned for calling myself an A$$ is ignorant. Thats not solving toxicity thats ruing the playerbase.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

so if i curse and then someone reports me i can get perma banned?

With the state you're in now, any cursing directing at anyone is considered a trigger point for your pemanent suspension.

I'll really sue them for that with the amount of money i have in this game to be perma banned for calling myself an A$$ is ignorant. Thats not solving toxicity thats ruing the playerbase.

I mean you're always allowed to submit a ticket to Riot Support to ask them to recheck your chat logs, as they can redo their error. But do be reminded that the chances are already slim. Any signs of "report Nami", "pls go kys", "open mid" & etc is considered the final point & your permanent suspension can no longer be overturned.

SlimyEggbert1 votes

Lol wish i never dropped any money on this game, really a shame. wish they had actual employees who could run and keep a healthy community. Perma Bans are just messed up in general. why do they have a say in who deserves to have couple hundred away from them. Oh well i've learned my lesson riot, no more money from me.

ModPeriscope1 votes

Beatz has his heart in the right place, but no, riot does not punish cursing by itself. You are punished for harassing others, as was the case in this punishment.

Do take it easy though, as post two week punishment you are on thin ice.

General Esdeath 1 votes

"Wow, people can look away when I murder someone. Why don't they just ignore it instead of reporting me to the police?"

Ouch Ouch Ouch1 votes

The in game report is just a lie.

There was one guy repeatedly called my "motherless dog", "chinese dog" on Oceania server but after the report, he is fine and plays game every night.

Don't trust RIOT.

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