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Guess I am in the 0.006%

StackedTear··11 votes·7,785 views

Game 1 Pre-Game StackedTear: hi StackedTear: go for exhaust plz In-Game StackedTear: note to myself StackedTear: he has a ward in the right bush StackedTear: I didnt knew before u came StackedTear: veigar and syndra can be so boring StackedTear: the won with more mana wins StackedTear: dont push StackedTear: just last hit StackedTear: thanks for watching StackedTear: and I knew StackedTear: you were mid also StackedTear: you got 0 ganks StackedTear: and is 10:00 StackedTear: wards StackedTear: dear bot StackedTear: play safe cause I cant ward StackedTear: just farming StackedTear: wont do anything StackedTear: cause thats the only way to play StackedTear: nope StackedTear: not in this meta StackedTear: nope StackedTear: not at all StackedTear: if a fed enemy laner StackedTear: has any idea of what he is doing StackedTear: u wont get any farm StackedTear: and even if u get StackedTear: farm StackedTear: it will be pointless StackedTear: since they still have a 900 gold advantage over u StackedTear: lmao StackedTear: u realise StackedTear: they can farm too? StackedTear: just idling farming StackedTear: is NOTHING StackedTear: the enemy also farms StackedTear: I wish I had a jungler StackedTear: STOP WHAT StackedTear: omg StackedTear: I swear StackedTear: u are doing your best StackedTear: to tilt me StackedTear: I wish my jungler ganked StackedTear: Once in this game StackedTear: every lane is losing StackedTear: I dont want to play? StackedTear: im the one afk farming StackedTear: i want to win StackedTear: thanks for StackedTear: defing yi StackedTear: my team StackedTear: I swaer StackedTear: they are trying to tilt me as much as possible StackedTear: riven and yi StackedTear: I swear your dicks StackedTear: must be bleeding StackedTear: you are circlejerking so hard StackedTear: the hyporcrysi StackedTear: is astounding StackedTear: Im not the jungler with 0 ganks StackedTear: I will pick jungler primary until im out of silver StackedTear: u can still get camped StackedTear: jungler has to be the easiest StackedTear: team you are making me want to troll StackedTear: just to fuck up your game StackedTear: you are all entitled brats StackedTear: idk why yi didnt gank my lane the whole game StackedTear: It was obvious veigar would snowball hard StackedTear: jungler has the most impact StackedTear: on anything StackedTear: sure mid can roam if fed StackedTear: but jungler always roams StackedTear: I wonder why yi StackedTear: I wonder hwy StackedTear: yeah not cause StackedTear: the jungler just afked farmed gromp StackedTear: got 0 drakes StackedTear: 0 ganks StackedTear: even tough I was camped StackedTear: its ironic StackedTear: u were jerking each other StackedTear: that I was the one not trying to win StackedTear: you should play StackedTear: fornite StackedTear: in duo Game 2 In-Game StackedTear: close enough StackedTear: bully them a lil urgot StackedTear: nvm StackedTear: my flash died for this StackedTear: thanks for watching guys StackedTear: I gave olaf 600 gold StackedTear: u lost lane to vayne as kaisa StackedTear: just wow StackedTear: vayne is too StackedTear: and vayne has the weakest early game StackedTear: and vayne is one of the weakst adcs StackedTear: right now StackedTear: while kaisa is op StackedTear: it took u so much to type that StackedTear: coming back is impossible StackedTear: come lets do it StackedTear: yeah StackedTear: count me out StackedTear: whoever voted no StackedTear: should stay StackedTear: im not playing a lost game StackedTear: I only play ranked StackedTear: yeah but not you StackedTear: and you s++++ tier adc StackedTear: that lost to vayne StackedTear: like kda even matters StackedTear: I didnt lost lane to vayne as kaisa StackedTear: or mid to veigar as the most op champion in the game StackedTear: you can barely speak english kaisa StackedTear: this one wasnt even coherent StackedTear: inted means intentionally dying StackedTear: since when StackedTear: 1 more min StackedTear: of afking StackedTear: and then I leave for good StackedTear: like they even ban leavers StackedTear: leaving StackedTear: int lmao StackedTear: u learned a cool now word StackedTear: from your favorite streamer StackedTear: I used the wrong vowel wow StackedTear: its not like your adc butchered the whole english language StackedTear: come StackedTear: im going to hit something StackedTear: have your fun enemy team StackedTear: when u will be losing u will remember how crappy this game is StackedTear: /all StackedTear: Literally every game is the same StackedTear: one team snowballs heavely StackedTear: and completly oliberates the other team StackedTear: we lost our base StackedTear: and u still vote no? StackedTear: chatting is more fun than actual gameplay StackedTear: permabaned for afking lol StackedTear: in the worst case StackedTear: I will get a 20 min que StackedTear: which is nothing Game 3 Pre-Game StackedTear: can I top? In-Game StackedTear: is good u came vack StackedTear: so they could kill you StackedTear: thanks malphite for preventing her to snowball out of control StackedTear: whats even the point of playing vayne StackedTear: u too StackedTear: dont face check StackedTear: he is 10 StackedTear: 10/2 StackedTear: ofc he is op StackedTear: Imagine if we had a realer jungler StackedTear: I actually went for pahntom StackedTear: phantom StackedTear: def mid StackedTear: what are u doing here StackedTear: genius yi StackedTear: genius everyione StackedTear: top is open StackedTear: TOP IS OPEN StackedTear: wow StackedTear: 2 turrets StackedTear: ofc yas comes too StackedTear: yes but yas was there StackedTear: so I have more reasons to complain StackedTear: varus needed 10 scs StackedTear: to figure he cant shoot trough yas StackedTear: 'wall StackedTear: why is silver so varied StackedTear: in terms of skill StackedTear: some ppl have no idea what a tower is StackedTear: but here they are StackedTear: in the top 50% of players StackedTear: u cant trust them StackedTear: u cant trust your teammats StackedTear: they might be a future bronze StackedTear: U have to play broken champs to climb StackedTear: if u dont want to surr? StackedTear: why dont u defend? StackedTear: you puzzle me so much StackedTear: its like u play only to waste others time StackedTear: im much better than u will ever be StackedTear: give the cs to me StackedTear: omg you used a mean word StackedTear: why even play jungle StackedTear: I should have que dodged StackedTear: when I saw the comp StackedTear: only a genius could pick StackedTear: like our top and jungle StackedTear: Not gg in the slightest Post-Game StackedTear: sometimes I wish I can honor the enemy team StackedTear: some ppl just dont deserve to b e honored StackedTear: I will start playing S champs StackedTear: until I am gold StackedTear: vayne is shit tier StackedTear: ever since the item change StackedTear: you managed to die StackedTear: to me StackedTear: cause u dont know how my kit works

53 Comments

StackedTear19 votes

I just wanted to make my chat logs public, I am not asking anyone to unban me and to warn people that passive aggresivness can get you permanently banned

ModThe Djinn12 votes

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I just wanted to make my chat logs public, I am not asking anyone to unban me and to warn people that passive aggresivness can get you permanently banned

Pinning this so people don't miss the OP's intent with this thread.

SUCC Ghast3 votes

Nice pin, but Djinn, read game one in those logs. There is no passive aggressive, there are direct references to his team "Circle jerking with their dicks bleeding"... he has fooled us.

ModThe Djinn6 votes

[{quoted}](name=SUCC Ghast,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZYhiqRTh,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-05T19:14:56.189+0000)Nice pin, but Djinn, read game one in those logs. There is no passive aggressive, there are direct references to his team "Circle jerking with their dicks bleeding"... he has fooled us.

And I frankly don't care. The OP is allowed to think what he/she wants, but if they're not looking for feedback or a ban overturn and have no questions about the punishment or the logs there isn't a need for us to attempt to provide those. The warning "passive aggresivness can get you permanently banned" is applicable even if the log has behavior beyond that.

SUCC Ghast3 votes

I know, I only commented to you so that when players read your comment, they will see mine. Only doing it so people don't feel sympathy for a player who doesn't deserve any 8)

Gear Jammer2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZYhiqRTh,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-05T19:25:07.384+0000)

And I frankly don't care. The OP is allowed to think what he/she wants, but if they're not looking for feedback or a ban overturn and have no questions about the punishment or the logs there isn't a need for us to attempt to provide those. The warning "passive aggresivness can get you permanently banned" is applicable even if the log has behavior beyond that.

Wow just wow... And we wonder why this community sucks

ModThe Djinn4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gear Jammer,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZYhiqRTh,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2018-07-06T01:27:07.732+0000)Wow just wow... And we wonder why this community sucks

...I'm confused. Why would attempting to ensure that people don't try to jump down the OP's throat for something they're not interested in discussing be a bad thing for the community? The OP seems to understand that they were correctly banned and, by that statement, didn't seem interested in going into the details so much as sharing their experience as a warning.

Gear Jammer2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZYhiqRTh,comment-id=000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-07-06T01:53:22.804+0000)

...I'm confused. Why would attempting to ensure that people don't try to jump down the OP's throat for something they're not interested in discussing be a bad thing for the community? The OP seems to understand that they were correctly banned and, by that statement, didn't seem interested in going into the details so much as sharing their experience as a warning.

Guess I frankly just expect better from you than to put it the way you did.... "And I frankly don't care" is quite rude and unprofessional. That is one thing coming from just another board member another from one that should represent the best of the community.

ModThe Djinn3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gear Jammer,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZYhiqRTh,comment-id=0000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-07-06T12:57:50.841+0000)

Guess I frankly just expect better from you than to put it the way you did.... "And I frankly don't care" is quite rude and unprofessional. That is one thing coming from just another board member another from one that should represent the best of the community.

That's fair. I could have put it a little less callously. My intended meaning was more "it doesn't MATTER if the OP is correct or not and we shouldn't focus on it," but I was having a rough day and didn't choose my wording as carefully as I sometimes do. I don't personally think it was rude given the context (which seems fairly clear that I don't care about the OP's behavior in this context, not that I don't care about the poster's point), but I will happily acknowledge the wording could have used a second glance.

Dr Birdie1 votes

There was a lot more than just passive aggressiveness in these logs. At multiple points in these logs you are blaming your teammates for your losses, threatening to AFK, possibly actually AFKing, calling teammates bad in a round about way to try to avoid reports because you knew you were doing something wrong.

Aside from all of the other things you did in these logs, being passive aggressive in a way that is obviously meant to hurt or harass other players is still harassing chat, and against the summoner's code.

StillHittinLicks1 votes

Dude... you went afk on purpose... that's griefing.. and why are you typing so much you damn keyboard warrior? Just play the game and try to win bro, if you lose, you lose. Is losing that common for you?

3ST Rippy6 votes

dumb ban

Festing3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Yuri Sakazaki,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZYhiqRTh,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-05T19:01:25.915+0000)

dumb ban

Agreed. No verbal abuse or offensive language was used. Talk about rito logic.

TheKingOfBiches1 votes

just want to say, dont get discouraged about the amount of downvotes you get, you speak common sense, its just a lot of the people in player behavior lurk here just to think they believe that their sensitive attitude is right, and that everyone else is toxic.

Thee Pie Man1 votes

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just want to say, dont get discouraged about the amount of downvotes you get, you speak common sense, its just a lot of the people in player behavior lurk here just to think they believe that their sensitive attitude is right, and that everyone else is toxic.

No, common sense would tell you this isn't their first ban, and the perma-ban is the result of multiple past infractions. They aren't even arguing they don't deserve it, just that passive aggressive behavior towards other players in a game can result in you being banned. This isn't about sensitivity as much as just following a status quo- you continue a behavior or pattern despite being warned that you need to be on your best behavior? You get an escalated punishment.

TheKingOfBiches1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Thee Pie Man,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ZYhiqRTh,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-06T03:09:34.526+0000)

No, common sense would tell you this isn't their first ban, and the perma-ban is the result of multiple past infractions. They aren't even arguing they don't deserve it, just that passive aggressive behavior towards other players in a game can result in you being banned. This isn't about sensitivity as much as just following a status quo- you continue a behavior or pattern despite being warned that you need to be on your best behavior? You get an escalated punishment.

Im actually talking about exmana's other post,about how he tells everyone to stop letting words from a stranger on the internet get to them.

And he always gets Downvoted because people can't handle the truth

Thee Pie Man2 votes

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Im actually talking about exmana's other post,about how he tells everyone to stop letting words from a stranger on the internet get to them.

And he always gets Downvoted because people can't handle the truth

Ah alright then let me correct you there too. What other people feel and don't feel shouldn't be up for discussion in the first place, if your actions have an effect on another person your personal experience/thoughts on the matter shouldn't invalidate it. You're blaming the victim for nothing more than being themselves and that's disgusting behavior in of itself.

Everyone should be respected equally in the first place, and believing what you're talking about here goes directly against that by calling out those that feel like they are being disrespected in an environment that really has no place for that disrespect in the first place. It's a video game made for entertainment. The moment someone's entertainment is ruined because another person decided their entertainment would be enhanced by calling someone else a name or etc, crosses a line of an aggressor that is having fun at another person's expense and that is equally not okay.

These things should be common sense.

Terozu1 votes

"Your dicks must be bleeding from how hard you're circle jerking"

Zombie Gerbil6 votes

At least you're taking responsibility for it. More than I can say for the majority of the people who comes here.

Veilius3 votes

I know how you feel. I had an alt account permanent banned for half as much as I see here, and I don't find this toxic at all. You're just trying to win and reacting to people who have nothing better to do than try to trigger people.

The discipline in this game is actually in a very sad state. Most players don't care about chat because of the ignore feature. What people are about is inting/trolling/etc which basically has no ban recourse.

Riot has such a holier than thou attitude with chats right now, where the instigator is rarely the punished, and the victim is banned for reacting poorly (and essentially being human). It's a sad state of the game which is inherently social for many players, and they've basically set things up such that you might as well just /mute all in every game. Pretty soon that'll be bannable for not communicating witn the team.

You really can't police the internet, especially in what's such an emotional game. If they spent half the energy they do dealing with questionable bans like these on actually identifying the sources of the problems league would be a much better place. No one is capable of being a care bear 24/7 and they're placing HUGE demands on people to battle their own humanity/psychology to appease and impossible utopian expectation in every league game.

It says it all that you need HUNDREDS of honors to be promoted out of honor 0, but only a handful of barely legitimate reports to lose your entire account. You can't have that kind of system and expect positive results. I've played league since it released and before tribunal/Pendragon banhammer, and I can honestly say that ever since this whole system was implemented the game has become MORE toxic than it was, because they've empowered trolls to get people banned after they've triggered a bad reaction from them.

Sad state of affairs I'm afraid.

flibitydoo2 votes

I pressed ctrl+f then typed in "stacked" that brought up 204 results. Your username shows up twice on the page which I will give away for free

but the point is, is there's about 202 messages you put into chat across 3 games. Haven't looked into detail as to what you said, but that doesn't matter. What matters if you put 202 messages into chat.

Like I know you don't think of yourself as "one of them", but "them" always post 50+ messages into their games. Which means, that you are in fact, one of "them".

Think of it this way, if you give a monkey an infinite amount of time and a typewriter, they will eventually type out the complete works of william shakespeare. But that monkey also will have put out a lot of other things too, like incriminating stuff that gets them banned.

My advice is simple, don't be that monkey. You do not need to put more than 5 messages into chat for any game. Most games, most players will only put gg when the nexus explodes. It is actually that simple.

SkullDuggery19191 votes

Why have chat at all if simply talking in it can get you banned? I'm not saying he shouldn't be banned, but your entire post rests on the logic that the amount of chat messages deserves a ban. I think that is absolutely ridiculous, as there is no limit to chat messages in game. If they don't want people to type messages at all, it would be a simple fix. If they only wanted people to type 5-10 messages a game, it would be a simple fix. Typing in chat isn't grounds for punishment IMO.

The fact that you are comparing op to a monkey also speaks to your toxicity. There's a lot of people like you in game. People who skirt the rules, and actually are toxic and insulting, but never quite enough to get a ban. Frankly, I think you are a coward and you are disgusting. You are the one who shouldn't be playing the game. If you feel the need to call people monkeys who type more than 5 messages, then you don't have the mental capacity to play this game. It is actually that simple.

flibitydoo1 votes

I'm not trying to compare him to a monkey, but I have pointed out a common flaw I've seen most users who post about their bans in player behaviour

which is they all. comment. 50+ messages. per. game.

That is an absurd amount of messages to put into a match, and my comment has noted that if you are posting that much, first of all "why would you even need to" and second of all "you are aware that the more you put in, the more likely you're going to trigger a ban/punishment". There is zero reason why you can't use the in game ping system to convey crucial in game information, especially now that they've been updated years ago to allow it. Summoners? ults? enemy bought an item? area warded? yeah that's all doable without typing.

Also, a lot of reformed players do the tactic of "mute all" from the start of a match and this includes not chatting themselves. It works. Those players actually stop getting punished all together.

Also, you've degenerated to calling insults just as badly. You look pretty cowardly and disgusting myself, I hope you follow your own advice of not playing this game for the sake of all of us too.

And the other thing is, is that you can be upset from a game, you can curse and tug at your hair, all that matters is you just don't spread that to the other players through the game. Toxicity at it's core definition is a negative behaviour, that spreads. If you're souring the mood by putting so much emotion into chat ("so much" as in 200+ messages worth), then you're most definitely going to get yourself into trouble.

It's not that hard to not be that guy. I myself have gotten to honor level 4 checkpoint 2 with zero punishments throughout the 5+ years of me playing this game, and that's just by simply saying nothing (except sometimes a gg when the nexus explodes).

SkullDuggery19191 votes

toxicity : the quality of being toxic or poisonous

toxic : poisonous

Here's some real definitions for you since you have forgotten that toxic actually has a real meaning other than the bastardized meaning for this game.

The language used to describe curse words in a video game is very hyperbolic. "Reformed?" Lol. We are losing the true definition of these words and refusing to acknowledge scale. Judging people who type in a video game is self-serving; it only serves to make you feel better.

Different people do different things. The entire attitude of "just be like me" is so narrow minded that it's impossible to combat. It speaks to the maturity of the playerbase. It is extremely immature to expect everyone to conform to your standards, and thinking that homogenization leads to positive results is short-sighted. What if nobody ever typed in chat? Would that make for a better experience? Riot doesn't think so, or they would remove chat altogether.

As far as your "for the sake of all of us" argument, you don't speak for anyone but yourself. The people on these boards act as if there was a referendum voted on by every player of this game in regards to toxicity. As I said before, not everyone is like you. Your narcissism and self-righteousness aren't positive qualities.

flibitydoo1 votes

That definition of toxicity is based on what Riot's been using. And again, it's addressing the fact that they don't want sour mooded players spreading their negativity to everyone else. That's the only reason why communicating it through chat gets you punished in the first place.

It isn't immature to expect everyone to conform to this standard, given that 95% already have and haven't been punished to begin with.

And that's true to see in any game you play. Expect less than 3 unique people out of 10 to actually use the chat function. Expect maybe at most, 5 ggs at the end of a match (usually it's like 2). Most players do NOT speak whatsoever. And most of the time it's pointless to do so.

If you sincerely believe that flooding chat is safe and fine, then by all means continue to do so. But understand that you are already a minority.

SkullDuggery19191 votes

Words have meaning, and the word toxicity has nothing to do with spreading anything.

The numbers for accounts that haven't been punished don't reflect how often people chat. Throwing one stat at an issue is not the way you investigate or study something. That's an immature mindstate, and it reveals the level of stupidity here. What you've seen in game is anecdotal, and does not accurately reflect what happens in all of the games ever played.

Once again, you think that everyone is the same. You are wrong. I never said that I flood chat, I simply said that typing a lot should not be punishable, because if they don't want people to type then they would remove or limit chat. Based on that policy, Riot themselves don't agree with you.

You need some basic knowledge and interpretation skills before you go online spouting misinformation and inaccurate information. You just want people to act how you want them to act in game. That's fine, but pretending only your opinion matters, or that your opinion is inherently right, is faulty and immature. It's the literal (not made up by Riot) definition of self-righteousness.

flibitydoo1 votes

Okay first of all you seem very very mad based on how you are speaking to others

second of all, I'm not saying spamming the chat will get you banned, I'm saying that talking a lot in general is a common trend among those who are toxic. Even if you don't think that what you're saying is toxic, that can easily be misinterpreted (or interpreted in general) as toxic chat. A lot of users like OP suffer from this.

And again, everyone is the same in the point I was making. The numbers actually do apply. As an example, I just played a match and the Ashe I was supporting said nothing, neither did the opposing jhin, or fizz or allied liss, or the allied darius or enemy zyra or enemy swain. There was a collective less than 10 lines of chat that went through that match. The only person that really talked was the opposing renekton who was just saying wp whenever he died (he played well too so it was fairly sportsmanlike and our hecarim because I asked him about if he ever thought about going ghostblade since he was 6 item'd without one (he said he preferred to be tanky which was fair). Everyone got honored that match. So that's a collective total of 3 people out of 10 that spoke that match (me renekton and hecarim). I guess you could count zyra if only saying "gg" as her nexus exploded counts as talk (which it really doesn't).

It's not about "self righteousness" as you call it (I'll be honest I don't even know why you keep trying to shove it into this conversation). It's about a trend of people who are toxic or who get punished that are often found to have put lots and I mean LOTS of comments into chat. Which is exactly what OP was doing.

If there is anything to be learned from this, it's to simply just stop flooding chat.

SkullDuggery19192 votes

More typical boards tactics. Claim someone is mad because they disagree with you. Immature.

More anecdotes which prove nothing. Look up 'anecdotal evidence'. You can't simultaneously claim the numbers matter, then use an anecdote to prove that. You are seriously ignorant in the way that you argue.

I'm not shoving self-righteousness into this conversation. You're putting it on display every time you type.

Acrilyk31 votes

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Okay first of all you seem very very mad based on how you are speaking to others

second of all, I'm not saying spamming the chat will get you banned, I'm saying that talking a lot in general is a common trend among those who are toxic. Even if you don't think that what you're saying is toxic, that can easily be misinterpreted (or interpreted in general) as toxic chat. A lot of users like OP suffer from this.

And again, everyone is the same in the point I was making. The numbers actually do apply. As an example, I just played a match and the Ashe I was supporting said nothing, neither did the opposing jhin, or fizz or allied liss, or the allied darius or enemy zyra or enemy swain. There was a collective less than 10 lines of chat that went through that match. The only person that really talked was the opposing renekton who was just saying wp whenever he died (he played well too so it was fairly sportsmanlike and our hecarim because I asked him about if he ever thought about going ghostblade since he was 6 item'd without one (he said he preferred to be tanky which was fair). Everyone got honored that match. So that's a collective total of 3 people out of 10 that spoke that match (me renekton and hecarim). I guess you could count zyra if only saying "gg" as her nexus exploded counts as talk (which it really doesn't).

It's not about "self righteousness" as you call it (I'll be honest I don't even know why you keep trying to shove it into this conversation). It's about a trend of people who are toxic or who get punished that are often found to have put lots and I mean LOTS of comments into chat. Which is exactly what OP was doing.

If there is anything to be learned from this, it's to simply just stop flooding chat.

Not that I agree with SkullDuggery(which i do) but the dude actually answered you in the most polite way possible, while displaying his opinion. If there's anyone mad, it's you for not respecting what he said and starting an argument with the fact that he's apparently mad, when clearly your feelings are the reason you believe he's mad.

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flibitydoo1 votes

I mean you bring up the point of neglecting my argument when skullduggery has clearly ignored the mainstay point I've repeated 3 times (and here I'll repeat it again), Most players who post their chat logs here after being punished tend to put a lot of text per game.

And he's much more visibly upset if you've actually read what he's been saying. Ad hominem and everything levels of upset. Not actually addressing my points levels of upset. Making Strawmans about me suggesting that typing a lot is a bannable offense. Which it's obviously not. Again I'm suggesting that people who get punished often times have a lot of text per game.

Acrilyk31 votes

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I mean you bring up the point of neglecting my argument when skullduggery has clearly ignored the mainstay point I've repeated 3 times (and here I'll repeat it again), Most players who post their chat logs here after being punished tend to put a lot of text per game.

And he's much more visibly upset if you've actually read what he's been saying. Ad hominem and everything levels of upset. Not actually addressing my points levels of upset. Making Strawmans about me suggesting that typing a lot is a bannable offense. Which it's obviously not. Again I'm suggesting that people who get punished often times have a lot of text per game.

Do you have any kind of evidence or is this just how you feel? I'm pretty sure that's not how it works.

flibitydoo1 votes

Literally the first thing he says is "why have chat when talking will get you banned". Which is not what my argument was about (we can add +1 ignoring my argument score) . Again, my point was that most people that get banned or punished have a lot of statements in their chat logs, and most people that reform or improve themselves behaviourally tend to not speak at all.

The 2nd paragraph in his initial response is just a straight up strawman. I'm not suggesting methods to allow one to be toxic and evade punishment which is what he's suggesting. I'm drawing a metaphor that if you say literally everything, you're going to say the bad things too. The second paragraph is also filled with ad hominem name calling and incredible amounts of passive aggression (which by the way, if he's that visibly being passive aggressive, I have full right to say that he is in fact upset).

If you read my response to his first reply, then read his reply to that (the one leading where he defines toxicity), you'll notice that his 2nd comment in general kind of makes zero sense. It's as if he skimmed what I replied with, picked some buzz words to jump on and then staged everything around that instead of actually forming an argument to reply to me (which btw, not addressing the argument is a fallacy). Also I have no idea why the first thing he does is try to call toxicity something that this very section of the boards has a set definition for (which is negative behaviour that spreads, again set by riot, enforced by the mods).

My response towards it was one where I had straight up evidence of a claim that he made that was objectively wrong. The majority of players don't get punished. The "toxic community" has been established to be a minority of the game numerous times.

His next reply immediately dismisses that statistical point (and later on dismisses the example of a game I just had; which by the way skullduggery, what exactly do you want from me to prove to you that people do not chat a lot in games? Do you want all me to get all 50 million+ users to send you an affidavit? cause literally I have played the game for 5+ years and watched league of legends streams for 4+ years, and I guess it's completely anecdotal that less than half the players in all of those matches will actually talk? And I'm doubtful the silent majority of players doesn't exist in all of your games you have and haven't played. Or the games of literally everyone else in this thread). But I'm digressing from the point of this, which is to point out everything wrong with his replies. The end of his 3rd reply is where he tries to warp the argument into "self righteousness" which up to that point in the conversation was a word that was never brought up, nor was it something that I've been trying to impose given that I have given zero advice or instruction. PS saying "once again you think", yeah stop right there, saying "you think" is literally putting words in my mouth aka strawman. Also the self righteouness bit, yeah one of the first things he did was calling me out for was "cowardice" and being "disgusting" and he's the one throwing "you're self righteous" at me? Like seriously?

its blãnk2 votes

lol its so funny that the .0006 or whatever it is....

its so wrong.

Aneirin1 votes

Citation needed...

its blãnk2 votes

do you really believe only .0006% of players are permanently banned? I have dozens. Just me. There are so many like me. Almost every game atleast one person has had a permanent ban. If I had to guess, because apparently the .0006 has lasted since 2015 when I got my first perma ban, the percentage would be about 1%.

Festing1 votes

0.006% is false advertising, isnt that illegal or something

Terozu4 votes

You have no idea what false advertisement actually is.

Do you?

Festing1 votes

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Terozu2 votes

So you know what false advertisement is.

But you can't tell that the perma ban percentage has nothing to do with false advertisement?

HolyJellyMate1 votes

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0.006% is false advertising, isnt that illegal or something

What are you buying?

LordGeovanni1 votes

So what do you have to do to get your point across and try to lead your team to victory? since everything is punsihable. I dont agree with some stuff about the junglers and vayne but saying what happened (if it was what happened) shouldnt be punishable like that.

fatherdarius1 votes

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So what do you have to do to get your point across and try to lead your team to victory? since everything is punsihable.

You could try pinging the enemy nexus. [shrug]

LordGeovanni1 votes

cant before nexus towers are taken

Summonah123691 votes

Even though they say it's 0.006 of players who get banned.... I feel like it's way more, just saying.

AlienPrimate1 votes

That is probably of all accounts ever created. Not all accounts are active and many accounts are just one of many from a single person. There are way more accounts than people who actively play.

BEST MEAT BALLS1 votes

i bet you wrote in the chat more than you clicked the right click during the game lol

GirI Gamer1 votes

These logs weren't really ,,passive aggressive'',how did you even manage to send that many messages throughout the game?Did you even play?Oh you didn't,which you even mentioned in one of your games.You gave up in 2 games,AFKed in 1 game,and managed to argue throughout the WHOLE GAME in 1 game in which you gave up.I don't personally think you will get your account unbanned. You have to realize that not only toxicity can get you banned,but also giving up and negative attitude,which you seem to have shown in at least 2 of your reported games.

And oh,you don't need to play metachamps in order to get out of silver :I

TheCodeisCupCake1 votes

One thing about this game, its not a place to be social. Go to Dota if you want to be able to talk to others. This game will ban you for simply typing alot. Good luck with your others accounts, or bless you if you go to another game.

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