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Just got Permaban

Novel··1 votes·699 views

Well today is a sad day for me, i just got my account wich i've spent a lot of time and money permaban, like that, like it was nothing. I won't deny the fact that i was toxic in game, but still nothing outrageous i am just a hotblooded person who can easily be tilted in game, but that's just how i am. I tried working on that problem of mine, but too late. My issue though have nothing to do with my permaban have nothing to do with the ban itself wich seem to be justify, but more at how Riot handled the situation. Yes i had chat restricted and yes i got that 14 days ban before the perma, so you can say that i was fully aware of what was coming, but still we are humans, you can't change someone's personality just like that like by magic. I played this game since season 2 and spent a lot of money in it, so the fact that Riot can't even give second chances to see if the player can really reform or will stick at being toxic is really in my opinion unfair. I feel like i just lost time, and got my money taken away from me. Like i said, yes i can be toxic in game and get to words with people, but i never got racist, or wishing someones death or even threatening their lives, and yet they are people like that who are playing today, and i get ban for saying things like "The tower dive you did, just cost me my lane" yes it is toxic in a way, but is it worth a permaban... i don't know. I don't think i will ever get my account back, but i am going to work on that beheavior of mine just in case it happens.

22 Comments

Did The Maff2 votes

You kind of had two second chances already, first with the chat restriction and then the 14 days ban. How many more chances would you have given if you were Riot ?

Novel1 votes

I don't deny the chance that i got from the 14 days ban, but like i said do you really expect to change an human being that easily? There has been maybe 4 months between the 14 days ban and the permaban, and i did start to work on that beheavior of mine but little too late i suppose. I'm not saying that my ban is unjustified, i am saying that the fact that i played 6 years and contributed a lot to this game, should have brought Riot to maybe consider giving me another chance at reforming that's all. Not trying to say ''I DIDN'T DO IT IT WASN'T ME'' and all that blabla victim shit. I got toxic end of the story, i just think the punishment was kinda too harsh.

RallerenP1 votes

but like i said do you really expect to change an human being that easily?

I don't expect that, but you were supposed to not be toxic in the first place.

I'm not saying that my ban is unjustified, i am saying that the fact that i played 6 years and contributed a lot to this game, should have brought Riot to maybe consider giving me another chance at reforming that's all.

Right now they give you 3 chances, and you are asking for a fourth. Had they given you 4 chances you would just ask for a fifth. You would keep asking for just one more chance.

Novel1 votes

I don't consider chat restricted to be ''a chance given'' for me it looks more like small punishment you give to do something about it. 14 Days ban was the first real chance that i got. Not sure where you brought to 2 other ''chances'' that i got but whatever. When you play a game for 6 years and spend a lot of money into it you should be allowed to prove that you can maybe change. Lots of players who are actually worst than me are still playing today while i'm here trying to argue about the fact, that i don't deny my negativity. Just the way riot handled the matter that's all.

RallerenP2 votes

I don't consider chat restricted to be ''a chance given'' for me it looks more like small punishment you give to do something about it.

What you consider doesn't matter. They are served as warnings that your behaviour isn't acceptable, and it even says it on the reform card. They are by definition chacnes.

Not sure where you brought to 2 other ''chances'' that i got but whatever.

From the chat restrictions. Riot could have just permabanned you, you broke the rules. But instead they gave you the chance to try and improve your behaviour. You didn't so you were punished more harshly untill you learned your lesson. But you never will, no matter how many chances they give you.

When you play a game for 6 years and spend a lot of money into it you should be allowed to prove that you can maybe change.

Nope. You aren't special just because you played longer. Infact, since you've played for so long you should know the rules better. You had multiple chances to prove yourself, and you wasted all of them.

Lots of players who are actually worst than me are still playing today while i'm here trying to argue about the fact, that i don't deny my negativity. Just the way riot handled the matter that's all.

All bans are handled by an AI. This makes it so that every player is treated 100% the same.

Did The Maff4 votes

Well yea, im sorry that happened buddy, but that is just Riots punishment system cleaning up. Send a ticket to riot and see if they will reconsider (eventhough i doubt it).

Novel1 votes

I tried, i spoke with them for maybe 2 hours straight trying to come to an agreement on that matter, but nope nothing can be or should i say will be done on their end. My account is banned end of the story. To be honest i though of creating a second account and play with it, and try to maybe show them that i can reform myself, and then get my first account unbanned, but do i really have the motivation for it...

Did The Maff1 votes

I truly doubt they will unban your first account, but i do recommend starting a second account if you still think league is fun and you want to continue playing. Otherwise, dont. Also use the mute function a lot more and stop looking how other players do or play. Just mind your own buisness so to speak.

Novel1 votes

I really love League of Legends, the issue is not there... My issue is that my main account is kinda worth a lot of money and time you know so to just losing it all is kinda making me depressed about starting another account. We'll see i suppose.

Mordius3 votes

Been there, done that OP. I agree, 14 days isn't a whole lot of time to reform. It took me 3 months to fully reform, and that was after my permaban. Played since season 2 just like you. Spent a whole lot of money just like you.

Understand this though. You were banned for being toxic. So asking to be unbanned, when you have demonstrated to be toxic, isn't going to happen. The best chance we have, is to demonstrate we have reformed, by making a new account. I run a discord for permabanned players for this very purpose, you can find more info here

Kei1431 votes

takes something drastic to happen for one to change.

ModPeriscope1 votes

I mean, you are level 51. Just based on that alone, it’s a significant amount of time and games for you to have changed.

Timethief491 votes

Second chances? You said yourself that you had chat restrictions and a 14 day ban. Thats more than 1 second chance.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

{quoted}Yes i had chat restricted and yes i got that 14 days ban before the perma, so you can say that i was fully aware of what was coming, but still we are humans, you can't change someone's personality just like that like by magic.

While I get that change is difficult, I can't really agree that Riot mishandles this. You got several warnings about your behavior, and one big warning that it was your last chance. You could have started a smurf account to practice controlling your behavior on, or taken a break from League, or sought help with controlling your behaviors, or come here for advice, or one of any number of options.

Instead you continued to play on the account that was on its final warning, knowing full well that controlling this behavior is a difficult thing for you and that your account was on very thin ice. While I can appreciate that getting banned sucks, it feels you're pinning a bit more of this on Riot's handling than I think is appropriate.

so the fact that Riot can't even give second chances to see if the player can really reform or will stick at being toxic is really in my opinion unfair.

The second, third, and fourth chances come after warnings, sadly.

They actually did try a "prove you can reform" experiment called the Level 20 Challenge a few years ago. It was tested out with players hand-picked for their commitment to reforming their behavior, and still had over a 95% failure rate. Because of this, Riot feels that, while there are certainly a few permanently banned players for whom this incentive would work to trigger self-reform, the statistics are too heavily skewed towards such a system only serving as an incentive for toxic players to keep making account after account in an attempt to prove reform, ruining games for other players along the way.

Fegone1 votes

so the fact that Riot can't even give second chances to see if the player can really reform or will stick at being toxic is really in my opinion unfair

You got many second chances. Every time you got a punishment that was not permanent, it was Riot telling you: "Behave! NOW!"

You ignored the warnings, and continued to be toxic, it should be no surprise that you get permabanned. And rightfully so. Make a new account and prove that you can reform , or don't invest money and/or time in a game which you know you will get banned from because "That's just who you are and you can't change".

Blitzz1 votes

riot gave you four chances tho

swordofsun1 votes

Technically Riot gave you four chances.

1 - initially set up account 2 - 10 game chat restriction 3 - 25 game chat restriction 4- 14 day ban

If you can't sort things out after four chances that's on you. Riot is a business and it's not in their interest to keep people around who aren't fixing their behavior.

Better luck on your next account.

rayzo1 votes

Make a new account and start over with a different mindset. If you ever think about being toxic remember what happened to your other account. If Riot unbanned permabanned accounts, the player wouldn't reform their behavior. They'd just think "oh i got away with it yay" and keep on being toxic.

BFK Whiteboy69er1 votes

They should definitely give a chance. Multiple at that. Unless no rp was bought on the account.

BFK Whiteboy69er1 votes

Yes CHANCES SHOULD BE WRITTEN IN THE GAME GUIDE. UNLESS RP WAS NOT BOUGHT ON THE ACCOUNT.

NYC Cheese pizza1 votes

dude you should of unbinded your enter key. If you can't control yourself then control the system!

Negativity1 votes

Sorry bro it’s over. Gotta start over. Perma bans don’t get reversed. Nothing you do can undo the ban. Any attempt to undo the ban is a waste of your time. Just gotta try to move on. If not you’re only hurting yourself

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