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Permanent Ban for one game?

That Pro Though··9 votes·2,830 views

Hello! So I was just permanently banned on my account? I haven't had any sort of restrictions for well over a year now, the last one being a chat restriction. I was just permanently banned yesterday for what seemed like an unjust reason. I was somewhat toxic to another player after I started argueing with them. The person was playing jax toplane was doing everything possible to tilt the whole team. He trolled, intentionally fed and flamed our whole team, and everyone was against him. He even said he was going to report all of us, which you can see I reply to in my log. I made the mistake of not ignoring him like the rest of the team and instead decided to type to him, which again was a large mistake. I didn't use any racist or homophobic terms though, and I didn't type that much to him. Everyone on my team as well said they were going to report him, so I don't see how I am the one to be permanently banned in this situation lol. I'd even be fine with being permanently restricted from typing for this. But I don't feel like permanently banning was fair. Here is my chat log: Game 1 That Pro Though: buddy ur 0/3 That Pro Though: what do you mean That Pro Though: you arent the sole team member That Pro Though: helping you with 1 gank wont change that That Pro Though: or help it really That Pro Though: pretty certain that hit That Pro Though: jaxc That Pro Though: shut the fuck up That Pro Though: this game is irritating as That Pro Though: fuck That Pro Though: bro you 77 cs That Pro Though: like.. That Pro Though: hes been everywhere but lane for the past 10 minutes That Pro Though: what That Pro Though: ???????????????? That Pro Though: lololololoolololoooooooool That Pro Though: have fun reporting the whole team That Pro Though: see how effective that is That Pro Though: xddddddddd That Pro Though: just stands there lmao.. That Pro Though: jax you fed singed so hard That Pro Though: you didnt play safe jax That Pro Though: thats not our fault That Pro Though: ive had plenty of games i got no ganks That Pro Though: and was against a counter That Pro Though: play safe and dont feed That Pro Though: gg report jax That Pro Though: toxic That Pro Though: lmao on That Pro Though: no That Pro Though: riot can check logs

32 Comments

LuvCheese4 votes

Yeh this deserves a chat ban for like 10 games but thats it lol. Riot fix yourselfs

Mizuki Zahra3 votes

[sg-lux-2]

Xurreal2 votes

Listen to me.

File a ticket with support.

Tell them how you feel you were unjustly treated in a game by a player whom you believe has a history of toxicity in League of Legends.

Tell them that it was this player who appeared to have triggered your ban.

Ask them to give you a list of your most recent behavioral infractions as well as the last time your account was in "Good" behavioral standing. Ask them also to investigate the past games of the player you feel targeted you.

There is activity going on that some users call "Bait Banning". The premise of the situation is that they are using throw-away accounts to antagonize users into an argument where they say key phrases or behave in a specific manner that could potentially trigger an instant ban (with an unknown success rate).

Point out that you feel it is not fair what happened in that game and that you are confident that this player was simply trying to take out anyone they could with them (you don't know who else was reported and possibly punished by/due to that player).

The next thing you do is ask why the punishment was so severe. You are supposed to progress to a 14-day suspension before being banned in normal cases, and as we can see from your chat logs, that should have been what happened.

Of course, all of this is valid assuming you are 100% sincere in your post, so don't try to 1-up the system if that isn't the case.

Good luck.

That Pro Though1 votes

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Listen to me.

File a ticket with support.

Tell them how you feel you were unjustly treated in a game by a player whom you believe has a history of toxicity in League of Legends.

Tell them that it was this player who appeared to have triggered your ban.

Ask them to give you a list of your most recent behavioral infractions as well as the last time your account was in "Good" behavioral standing. Ask them also to investigate the past games of the player you feel targeted you.

There is activity going on that some users call "Bait Banning". The premise of the situation is that they are using throw-away accounts to antagonize users into an argument where they say key phrases or behave in a specific manner that could potentially trigger an instant ban (with an unknown success rate).

Point out that you feel it is not fair what happened in that game and that you are confident that this player was simply trying to take out anyone they could with them (you don't know who else was reported and possibly punished by/due to that player).

The next thing you do is ask why the punishment was so severe. You are supposed to progress to a 14-day suspension before being banned in normal cases, and as we can see from your chat logs, that should have been what happened.

Of course, all of this is valid assuming you are 100% sincere in your post, so don't try to 1-up the system if that isn't the case.

Good luck.

I did file a ticket, unfortunately I didn't include all of what you said I should include. Thanks for the advice though, I'll use it in trying to recover my account if at all possible. I hope I can get this resolved.

Xurreal1 votes

Okay. And in the future, remember:

Toxicity has no true definition in League of Legends.

Technically, anything you can say that is not data-specific and has any sort of opinionated overtones can be viewed as Toxic from certain perspectives (even quoting someone's score).

More importantly, we are not Judge, Jury, or Executioner (not since Tribunal got axed).

You cannot and should not ever tell someone about themselves in chat, whether or not they are trolling you or raging. (personal experience, I caught an instant 14-day ban and I just said "I'm not about people who can say "%%%").

Let the reporting system take it from there. That's what ANY rioter will tell you.

CreampEye2 votes

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Xurreal2 votes

It's always existed and its nothing new.

It's called "instigating"

HavelDaRock3 votes

Riot's aware of you buddy :) just thought I'd let you know

Mizuki Zahra1 votes

[sg-kiko]

bàn1 votes

In Riots perfect world, you're toxic. In my eyes it looks like you're just tilted. I don't think you're toxic but the system is automated and you said some trigger words. You're probably not gonna get that lifted. Sorry dude.

That Pro Though4 votes

{quoted}

In Riots perfect world, you're toxic. In my eyes it looks like you're just tilted. I don't think you're toxic but the system is automated and you said some trigger words. You're probably not gonna get that lifted. Sorry dude.

The only real thing I would consider toxic that I said was "shut the fuck up" which again I would understand a punishment for but a permanent ban? It just doesn't seem right.

Alimentateur1 votes

well you are clearly trolling your team as you griefed them by what seems not ganking just cause he has some deaths. then being toxic in chat .. what did you expect to happen? rito is trigger happy if they see "report xy"

Xurreal1 votes

There are at least 50 Shades of toxicity.

Technically, your post could be considered a shade of it viewed from different perspectives (not that I am at all saying you are).

This is why the "Reform System" needs to literally be reformed. (from a certain point of view, this line is toxic)

RevaNgx1 votes

Riot itself is one corporation filled with employees who ban people for no reason. I've gotten banned for saying a single word in /all chat on my old account. One word and that was the only word I said in chat the whole game (it was in normals and I grouped with 4 others—comms in Discord). There is no "system" that people talk about; if a report(s) is sent by one or more players, the chat log and/or game recording will be sent to a Riot employee. From there, it will be common logic and knowledge of the game's Terms of Use/Code of Conduct that will be used to determine whether the offense is bannable or not. Riot isn't a perfect company, nor is its "system." If you got banned, the employee banned you for a reason. However, I personally think this ban is a bit over the top, especially if you were only reported in one game. Although, if you were reported several times before then and have received one if not more temporary bans before, a permanent ban was more than necessary. [sg-ahri-2]

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

Hmmm, if this is the entire log, then I would definitely recommend submitting a ticket to Player Support. This isn't a set of logs that would escalate someone directly to a permanent suspension if they hadn't progressed through a 14 day suspension first, unless you've edited out a few choice phrases. (Sorry to sound slightly suspicious, but well, it happens here on the boards frequently.) Just submit a ticket to Support, and they will be able to help you straighten it out.

That Pro Though1 votes

{quoted}

Hmmm, if this is the entire log, then I would definitely recommend submitting a ticket to Player Support. This isn't a set of logs that would escalate someone directly to a permanent suspension if they hadn't progressed through a 14 day suspension first, unless you've edited out a few choice phrases. (Sorry to sound slightly suspicious, but well, it happens here on the boards frequently.) Just submit a ticket to Support, and they will be able to help you straighten it out.

I understand your suspicions completely, this is the entire and only chat log though. I submitted a ticket, hopefully I can work this out.

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

They will get back to you soon then. It usually takes them a few hours, but sometimes up to 24. Try not to bump your ticket unless you have any extra information that you simply need to add to it. Hopefully they can get this resolved and get you back on the rift soon. Best of luck.

That Pro Though1 votes

{quoted}

They will get back to you soon then. It usually takes them a few hours, but sometimes up to 24. Try not to bump your ticket unless you have any extra information that you simply need to add to it. Hopefully they can get this resolved and get you back on the rift soon. Best of luck.

I got it reduced! Riot was nice enough to give me one more chance :)

Xurreal2 votes

Good. now take a break.

Trust me. Just take a break.

Take some time and revel in your victory because not a lot of people get what you got.

OnlyYouCanHearMe1 votes

I'm glad to hear it! There are cases where the IFS glitches out, and this looks like it was one of them. Try to play it cool in the future, and remember to mute people rather than retaliate, as this is the last chance, so to speak. Good luck!

[sona-playing]

That Pro Though1 votes

{quoted}

I'm glad to hear it! There are cases where the IFS glitches out, and this looks like it was one of them. Try to play it cool in the future, and remember to mute people rather than retaliate, as this is the last chance, so to speak. Good luck!

[sona-playing]

Thank You! I'm taking the advice you and Riot have given me to heart, and I will now look to mute instead of typing back.

Brotha1 votes

That Pro Though: have fun reporting the whole team That Pro Though: see how effective that is

Seemed pretty effective. One down, three to go.

Xurreal1 votes

Give him the Upvote!

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Pixie Storm1 votes

This is not ban worthy somebody upvote

General Esdeath 1 votes

@RiotTantram is OP hiding logs?

Xurreal1 votes

His punishment is already reduced.

General Esdeath 1 votes

Good

Wandering Bunny1 votes

I've been playing this game for many years now and I must say Riot has definitely gone too far with their punishment system. I started noting this changes about pre season 7 where the banning system started to feel more aggressive and I was right. A while back you would go through a process to get permabanned and it would usually consist of a warning, then a chat restriction, then 14 day, then 28 day ban for extreme toxicity, THEN finally a permaban(Used to be like this back in season 4). Now there have been many cases where people go instantly from CLEAN to 14 DAY or even as far as a permaban. They've definitely implemented a more aggressive system and while they are punishing more of those extremely toxic and unhealthy players for the community. A few people have been and keep getting unfairly treated by this system. I know people who have gotten unfair bans like this one and even one of my smurfs got a 14 right off the bat for saying a singular offensive phrase. The lesson here is though that Riot doesn't seem to care and the best course of action is just to jump into a game and /mute all and make sure you don't afk/int/buy 6 tears and then they will not be able to ban you at all. Sadly it has gotten to this point since part of the community consists of a younger generation filled with sensitive minds that are easily offended. Anyway I wish you luck with recovering your account.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

That Pro Though1 votes

{quoted}

I've been playing this game for many years now and I must say Riot has definitely gone too far with their punishment system. I started noting this changes about pre season 7 where the banning system started to feel more aggressive and I was right. A while back you would go through a process to get permabanned and it would usually consist of a warning, then a chat restriction, then 14 day, then 28 day ban for extreme toxicity, THEN finally a permaban(Used to be like this back in season 4). Now there have been many cases where people go instantly from CLEAN to 14 DAY or even as far as a permaban. They've definitely implemented a more aggressive system and while they are punishing more of those extremely toxic and unhealthy players for the community. A few people have been and keep getting unfairly treated by this system. I know people who have gotten unfair bans like this one and even one of my smurfs got a 14 right off the bat for saying a singular offensive phrase. The lesson here is though that Riot doesn't seem to care and the best course of action is just to jump into a game and /mute all and make sure you don't afk/int/buy 6 tears and then they will not be able to ban you at all. Sadly it has gotten to this point since part of the community consists of a younger generation filled with sensitive minds that are easily offended. Anyway I wish you luck with recovering your account.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Don't worry Riot helped me very quickly and was nice enough to give me another chance and reduce my punishment!

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