Will Riot Games do anything about the current scripting epidemic?

Stormlørd·Nov 4, 2015·6 votes·1,670 views

I play league almost nightly with a group of friends but recently we have been playing less and less games each night and a few of them have completely dropped out of playing league and uninstalled entirely. The reason? Scripting. Scripting has become so blatant and common that it is making the game almost unbearable to play. Whether it be map hacks, damage scripts, or just good ole fashioned spell scripting it happens in almost every match.

I played a game last night with an enemy Shaco jungler that was damage scripting. At level 4 with just a Stalker's blade and boots he was autoing me for 300 dmg a hit. When he came to gank my lane my life bar disappeared within 2 hits from him and one auto from the enemy ADC. When I confronted him about it he admitted to having the script then asked what I was going to do about it. This is how bad it has gotten, they will admit cheating because they know nothing is going to happen. This obviously isn't the first time I have run into it (two games prior I had a map hack scriptor on enemy team) but it is getting to the point where I'm considering uninstalling league. Which will come as a huge blow to me because I have spent a lot of money on RP over the past couple of years. What can I do? Report him? Yeah of course I did, but is that going to help? Probably not.

To everyone at Riot, I don't think you understand how bad the situation has gotten with scripting. Chances are these days that you will have at least one person scripting in your game. The most common being map hacks. I can't tell you how many times I have had friends spectating my games tell me that I was being pinged out in a brush that had no vision in it or even leading up to it. You need to put as many resources as you can into solving this issue before you lose your entire gaming population due to cheaters.

TL;DR Scripting has become out of control and Riot needs to devote major resources to resolving the issue before it destroys the game entirely.

19 Comments

Hardstuck G4Nov 4, 20154 votes

There is no damage script....

StormlørdNov 4, 20151 votes

lol yes there is. look it up on any of the scripting websites. I have a friend that installed it and created a game against bots to test it out. It exists and works. Don't know what rock you have been living under.

Hardstuck G4Nov 4, 20151 votes

The rock of happiness, obviously. I've met a scripter once. And I smashed him. He was a Vlad with dodge hacks, and I smashed him. I'll look it up one of these years. Last time I heard about scripts, it included

Dodge Scrips
Map Scripts
Spacebar to Win

DrCyanideNov 4, 20152 votes

"Script," by definition, can only do things a player can do on their own. It basically takes control of the mouse and keyboard.

"Exploits" on the other hand could modify damages, but would get the person using them banned extremely quickly.

At best you're using the wrong terminology, at worst you're missing something or not telling us something. Post the match history link for the game and I can run some numbers on what is possible for that time he autoed you.

StormlørdNov 4, 20151 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1999036505/49819174?tab=overview

I must be using the wrong terminology. But here is the match.

The IE and hydra were only built in the last few minutes of the match. Most of his 20.3k damage was done pre 20 minutes.

DrCyanideNov 4, 20152 votes

At level 4 they had item 1036 item 3706 , not getting boots item 3117 until level 7 (at which point they also had item 3707 completed). So what was it, a Level 4 Shaco or a Level 7 Shaco? The damage you're describing sounds perfectly on-par for a Level 7 Shaco throwing his E at you.

StormlørdNov 4, 20151 votes

It was the level 4 two swords and stalkers blade unenchanted.

I know how his E works but it was every auto. Not just the first one that was hitting me that hard.

DaenNov 4, 20152 votes

Scripting has become out of control and Riot needs to devote major resources to resolving the issue before it destroys the game entirely.

I'm sure they are, but it's a much more complex issue than people seem to give it credit for.

Anecdotal, but I can't say I have ever encountered someone where I could confirm 100% he or she was scripting by playstyle, and I've been playing since Season 1. I'm sure it's a terrible issue to get into a game with someone doing that, but at the same time I have to wonder if the impact is truly great enough to warrant Riot pulling significant resources from other projects.

StormlørdNov 4, 20151 votes

It just depends on if you are paying attention. It isn't easy to notice but once you do you can look for it and see it more frequently than you have in the past. It also helps to have people spectating your games to notice the map hacks. Granted the map hacks don't impact the game as much as the damage scripting, which isn't very frequent but when it is used you definitely notice. The dodge scripts are incredibly hard to notice if they aren't abused. The spell script I notice the most is Yasuo windwall script, or Fiora Riposte scripting. Those are most noticed in aram or if you are in a swept brush. Cast an ability from somewhere you know they have no vision and watch as they windwall/riposte it instantly.

falldown010Nov 5, 20151 votes

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I'm sure they are, but it's a much more complex issue than people seem to give it credit for.

Anecdotal, but I can't say I have ever encountered someone where I could confirm 100% he or she was scripting by playstyle, and I've been playing since Season 1. I'm sure it's a terrible issue to get into a game with someone doing that, but at the same time I have to wonder if the impact is truly great enough to warrant Riot pulling significant resources from other projects.

is scripting really not punishable ? like the guy said, i mean its kinda like hacking in a way

DaenNov 5, 20151 votes

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is scripting really not punishable ? like the guy said, i mean its kinda like hacking in a way

Oh it's punishable, no question. If you ever feel someone is scripting definitely report that player for cheating after the game, Riot will look into it directly.

AriCeiNov 4, 20152 votes

Related to this, I've been accused of, or had my friends accused of scripting when it 100% was not the case. I am not sure I buy into the whole "i know what it looks like, it's easy to tell" mentality, when this is exactly what the other players claimed. I as well have never personally come across anything that struck me as obvious scripting. One instant of a pre-emptive flash or side step is just as likely to be someone jumping the gun on a reaction in expectation of an obvious skill shot etc.

Ash LockheartNov 4, 20151 votes

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I play league almost nightly with a group of friends but recently we have been playing less and less games each night and a few of them have completely dropped out of playing league and uninstalled entirely. The reason? Scripting. Scripting has become so blatant and common that it is making the game almost unbearable to play. Whether it be map hacks, damage scripts, or just good ole fashioned spell scripting it happens in almost every match.

I played a game last night with an enemy Shaco jungler that was damage scripting. At level 4 with just a Stalker's blade and boots he was autoing me for 300 dmg a hit. When he came to gank my lane my life bar disappeared within 2 hits from him and one auto from the enemy ADC. When I confronted him about it he admitted to having the script then asked what I was going to do about it. This is how bad it has gotten, they will admit cheating because they know nothing is going to happen. This obviously isn't the first time I have run into it (two games prior I had a map hack scriptor on enemy team) but it is getting to the point where I'm considering uninstalling league. Which will come as a huge blow to me because I have spent a lot of money on RP over the past couple of years. What can I do? Report him? Yeah of course I did, but is that going to help? Probably not.

To everyone at Riot, I don't think you understand how bad the situation has gotten with scripting. Chances are these days that you will have at least one person scripting in your game. The most common being map hacks. I can't tell you how many times I have had friends spectating my games tell me that I was being pinged out in a brush that had no vision in it or even leading up to it. You need to put as many resources as you can into solving this issue before you lose your entire gaming population due to cheaters.

TL;DR Scripting has become out of control and Riot needs to devote major resources to resolving the issue before it destroys the game entirely.

I was shocked at how many hack videos there were for league on youtube. I mean I feel stupid for thinking league is safe this whole time.

ZielmannNov 4, 20151 votes

Scripting is a far cry from hacking. Scripting is detectable but not preventable (most scripts just do automatic inputs based on data it pulls from the game).

Ash LockheartNov 4, 20151 votes

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Scripting is a far cry from hacking. Scripting is detectable but not preventable (most scripts just do automatic inputs based on data it pulls from the game).

Ether way. I didn't know there were any hacks this whole time playing league. I never knew players could use them in league. I thought league couldn't never be played that way at all this whole time. I guess I never knew cause I never bothered looking them up. The whole thing is scary to know that players would take things this far. I also heard Riot has not updated a lot of there stuff as well even though its been 4 years. Its just scary to think about all that stuff, and what players would be willing to do.

ZielmannNov 4, 20151 votes

While LoL hasn't been completely immune to hacks over the years, it has only happened a couple times that I can recall (been playing 6 years), and Riot has always been pretty fast in closing these down.

Scripting is very basic and can be done with any game at all. This is because in many cases it's not related to the game at all. It just basically maps a single key press to perform a series of regular inputs (to perform a champ's core spell combo, for example). Things like dodge scripts, or yas wind wall scripts, are a bit more sophisticated because they have to take in actual game info to know if skillshots are approaching.

Fortunately, all these scripts will have what I'll call a signature pattern to them. And that pattern is most likely very different from the player's normal input patterns when they're controlling things themselves. Those, plus other factors, combine together to make detection from Riot's side simpler (not trivial, but definitely something they can do and are doing).

AnomanderNov 4, 20151 votes

Hopefully with the changes to the Client that are coming it will drastically reduce scripting and hacks.....or at least give riot more resources to deal with it.

Man In SkyNov 4, 20151 votes

Yeah scripting is a major issue, especially in higher elo because I can tell the difference between someone in diamond who can side-step, and someone who stutter-steps 1000x times and stands still when being hooked, casted a spell on them, etc.

LewNov 5, 20151 votes

If you ever check out these scripting sites you will often find their forums filled with posts from players who have gotten their accounts permabanned due to using scripts. Riot can't be too upfront about how they handle these types of things as it would only give away their methods of how they can detect scripts.