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I got perma-banned. I wonder why, though

Don Basti·7/28/2017, 12:05:27 AM·1 votes·445 views

So, I was perma banned from reports by the teams I played with. I have attached the chatlogs I was provided, they stem from two games. I will recap the games before, to the best of my knowledge.

Game1: My team was amumu, jg. ziggs, mid. jhin, adc. thresh, sup. teemo, top. (that was me)

their team was irelia, top. graves, jg. anivia, mid. luc, bot. janna, supp.

How it went: I leashed amumu top, then went into my lane and got first blood. Then my team immediately fed them 4 kills, so I asked them to play safe. The game continued, botlane was feeding (they ended 0/6 and 1/8) and amumu was refusing gank. Graves was camping top with irelia, which basically meant that I couldnt leave my turret anymore, bc graves was quite fed from 2 early kills he got on jg and mid (same time at about minute 3). Anivia also came top and ganked, but I still was doing quite alright. I think I was 3/3 despite the camp. But it became apparent that they could just dive and kill me, bc of the burst they have. So I asked my jungler to help me top. He replied (verbatim) "I don't gank for teemo". So I said in global that the game is over, bc as the only winning lane, I won't even get minimal help and we lose the other lanes anyways. Then amumu and Jhin were bitching at me for the rest of the game. They asked me to be reported (which i apparently got) bc I afk (which I didn't do) and I responded to them why the game is lost. I do not see where I was wrong here. I didn't really insult anyone, apart from calling amumu an asshole. But I honestly think you have to be an asshole to refuse to gank a certain champ and then blame everything on him, especially when he is the only one doing ok in the game. Despite from never ganking, amumu also made sure that i cannot farm up in the jungle, by rushing over and smiting the mosnters when I was about to take them. So I really had no option to defend the lane, as irelia and graves apparently duo'd and I was constantly at a 1v2. Here is the chatlog, let me know what you think.

Game 1 Don Basti: i would hav epreferred nasus Don Basti: pls play safe Don Basti: u can lose lane, but if u feed we def lose Don Basti: just farm up and hug turret Don Basti: irelia is ad, right? Don Basti: ,umu better leave Don Basti: we actually lose.. graves got way too fed Don Basti: ziggs stay mid Don Basti: u come way too leate Don Basti: ping mia Don Basti: but dont try to come after her so late Don Basti: ok, mumu u alos needd to camp top Don Basti: i got ganked 5 times now Don Basti: and zero hel Don Basti: p Don Basti: so? Don Basti: u didnt gank at all Don Basti: ok, then we lose Don Basti: ok amumu, thios is asshole behaviour, i am done Don Basti: bb Don Basti: gg, im out Don Basti: lol Don Basti: actually i never spammed for a gank, i just said that after 5 ganks,he needs to gank top as well and his answer was that he doesnt gank for teemo Don Basti: so, i am pretty much done with this game, nobody can 1v2 Don Basti: and if ur jungler refuses to help the only winning lane and even smites all the buffs so he cannot egt it, it is gg Don Basti: ehnce, gg Don Basti: makes zero sense to continue Don Basti: you told me that you dont gank for teemo Don Basti: after i was ganked top 5 times and asked you to come and help Don Basti: so why should i continue to play? Don Basti: you are obviously losing on purpose, amumu Don Basti: well, u cannot jungle, if u refuse to gank a lane that gets camped Don Basti: easy as this Don Basti: besides, i was the only winning lane... Don Basti: no, u are an idiot Don Basti: you won alrerady anbyways Don Basti: we have a jungle who refuses to help Don Basti: you won Don Basti: and u ahve a b5 attitude Don Basti: yeah, pls report me Don Basti: bc i asked fopr a gank after i got ganked 5 times Don Basti: and that asshole said that "I dont gank for teemo" Don Basti: how about u report him for obviously losing the game Don Basti: so what? Don Basti: game was lost at that point Don Basti: and i didnt afk Don Basti: i just refused to go inot my lane Don Basti: and give more kills Don Basti: ok, u dont get it Don Basti: you fed bot Don Basti: mid fed mid Don Basti: and amumu refuses to gank me when i get camped Don Basti: this game is lost Don Basti: anivia isd 6/0 Don Basti: yeah, u also got help from jungle and didnt have graves in ur turret 24/7 Don Basti: lol.. bc they cannot diuve me Don Basti: im the only one who can play on this team Don Basti: u fed 4 kils in the first 4 minutes Don Basti: what else can i say Don Basti: gg

Ok, here is the second game. It was a bit longer ago, so I do not remember it that well.

I was Teemo support with Jinx as adc. Jinx essentially pushed the wave to their turret and refused to let the wave push back. This way, she missed a ton of cs and got poked to death doing that. I pinged her back and then asked the team to tell her that it isn't clever to push the wave to their turret and just stand there, waiting for ganks. As was expected, she got killed and then blamed me for it. The rest of the team concurred (bc teemo isn't a support) and blamed me for jinx playing bad. I really didn't know what else to do than ask her to let the lane push back in so i can help her. Jinx threw a fit and blamed me for everything, so i called her an idiot. This, in my opinion, is absolutely warranted if u play adc and essentially kill yourself over and over again and then blame your support. So after 30 minutes, Jinx was 2/6 and had a staggering 100 cs while blaming me for everything. The team somehow believed her and everyone reported me. Again, I do not think that the report is warranted if someone feeds, refuses to listen and then blames you for everything. Then they said that I would afk, bc I didn't join into team fights (opponent was fed, we were not, so these were pure suicides) and instead pushed out the side lanes that pushed towards our base. I went 7/5 btw, which I think was the only positive k/d/a on our team and of course we lost the game.

Game 2 Don Basti: gj Don Basti: stop pushing Don Basti: what should i do? Don Basti: that idiot pushes all the way in then lets them poke him to death Don Basti: i cannot poke if u push all the way in and then let them kill u Don Basti: can someone tell jinx how to control the wave? Don Basti: bc she doesnt listen to me for sure Don Basti: how about u last hit and let it push towards us? Don Basti: nom u pushed the wavem then stayed, then died Don Basti: lol Don Basti: b5 Don Basti: sorry, jinx is awful Don Basti: we lose bot Don Basti: lol right Don Basti: it is me Don Basti: haha Don Basti: lol Don Basti: i cannotr do shit rthe ¥way she plays Don Basti: but good to know there are 2 b5 ppl here Don Basti: no Don Basti: lol Don Basti: thats a pity Don Basti: 1.5 sec Don Basti: awwww Don Basti: 1.5 secs Don Basti: just stay mid i get bot Don Basti: it is safer anywasy Don Basti: i deal more damage Don Basti: lol.. right Don Basti: u have no clue of the game Don Basti: and jinx cannot even cs Don Basti: but it is my fault lol Don Basti: right Don Basti: 2/6 bc of me Don Basti: 100 cs bc of me Don Basti: right Don Basti: all my fault Don Basti: well, my team sucks and blames me Don Basti: so.... gg Don Basti: lol, right Don Basti: afk and 7/5 Don Basti: lol Don Basti: like what should i di, when jinx pushes u into turret and u poke her to 10% Don Basti: let me know Don Basti: haha, so what should i do? Don Basti: u died Don Basti: no Don Basti: no

So, what do you think? Personally, I do not think that my behaviour was incredibly toxic or warrants a report. I essentially responded to their actions or statements and I also do not think that anything I said was out of line. Unlike some of my team mates, I actually tried to win the games. I do not understand the reporting system, but if this here is reportable, I could probably report every player in the game.

20 Comments

Imperial Pandaa7/28/2017, 12:33:38 AM4 votes

Well, you have a fairly negative attitude and give up, followed by just blamming and belittling your team. Does that excuse poor behavior from them? No.

Does their behavior excuse you? Also no.

If this got you perma you must have gone through the other tiers of the punishment system, no way this was escalated unless something was edited. After your 14 day ban you are on thin ice and being negative/flaming tea mates would be enough to ban.

tieger057/28/2017, 12:09:49 AM3 votes

oke i didnt read ur chatlogs so i cant really decide, but the only thing I can say is, u talk waaay too much. dont take it personally, I just dislike people who use league as a chatroom. In other words, you shouldnt be typing that much in a game. Just play the actual game.

SøulWolf7/28/2017, 12:10:00 AM3 votes

umm I always thought that its not about how many reports u get at once. Its overall how many you get weekly / monthly that gets you banned.

Subdue7/28/2017, 2:09:38 AM3 votes

Don Basti: actually i never spammed for a gank, i just said that after 5 ganks,he needs to gank top as well and his answer was that he doesnt gank for teemo Don Basti: so, i am pretty much done with this game, nobody can 1v2 Don Basti: and if ur jungler refuses to help the only winning lane and even smites all the buffs so he cannot egt it, it is gg Don Basti: ehnce, gg Don Basti: makes zero sense to continue Don Basti: you told me that you dont gank for teemo Don Basti: after i was ganked top 5 times and asked you to come and help Don Basti: so why should i continue to play? Don Basti: you are obviously losing on purpose, amumu Don Basti: well, u cannot jungle, if u refuse to gank a lane that gets camped

As a jungler, I hate this attitude. Reasons why I wouldn't gank your lane:

  1. It comes at a cost. If you're actually "winning" your lane already, then I may decide that trying to salvage the other lanes is a better idea.

  2. If you're getting ganked heavily and still "winning" as you said, then there's a good chance I'll run into the enemy jungler there. Let's face it, Teemo + Amumu is weaker than most Top/Jungler combinations you might run into. Dangerous!

  3. Teemo brings neither burst nor CC to the table, which means ganking will usually have a lower chance of success, relative to other lanes.

  4. Teemo doesn't scale as much as most assassins or ADCs. He'll most likely spend the whole time split pushing a lane and running from enemies, which he can do whether he has 3 items or 4, which means the value of successful ganks is less.

  5. Teemo is often pushed up in the lane, because ranged harass causes the creeps to move forward and attack. Low Burst + Low CC + Enemy Tower is usually suicide.

But really the #1 reason I wouldn't want to gank for you has nothing to do with Teemo. It is that you have a very poor attitude. Ganks don't always go well, and you seem the sort to rage when they don't.

*As a side note here, just because a lane is getting camped does not mean the automatic response is for the jungler to go up there and help it. Sometimes it's better for the laner to play passively, draw the ganks, and let the jungler make plays elsewhere. I can't even count how many times I've honored a top laner that went 0-6 in lane because they were getting camped, because they didn't complain as we made plays elsewhere that ultimately won the game.

Telephone Booth7/28/2017, 2:42:14 AM2 votes

Your chat is super negative. Definitely not worthy of escalated punishment, but maybe you've already received punishments in the past and a permaban was the next step. Right off the bat you're telling people how to play. Then you call gg early and blame your team, mainly your jungle. You gotta learn to just drop the ego in game. You shouldn't care so much about how people perceive you in game. They are "blaming" you? Why risk your accounts to counter blame them? Why do you care? Also, you can defend yourself in a neutral way, but you decide to defend yourself by insulting the people offending you. That's childish, negative behavior on all parties involves. You also just seem to chat a lot. Focus on the game, not chatting. The mute function is made so that you don't risk your account when people say things you don't like, but you chose to insult them and do exactly what they were doing to you, that you hate so much (blaming). So you're no better than them and you don't even see that you lowered yourself to their level. Come to that realization, and not being toxic is EASY. It's SO easy. Good luck in the future. Now you're more informed on how the system works. Retaliation doesn't make it okay. It's still against the summoners code to blame and insult people in game.

Dirty Bastard7/28/2017, 12:09:51 AM2 votes

I have to admit, I have been far worse in games, mind you I hav e played many and i think its about how many reports to games your playing... do you get reported often?

Finn Teh Human7/28/2017, 4:44:34 AM1 votes

You've probably been banned before or have gotten a shit ton of reports within a certain time period and those were just the games that put the nail in the coffin. I didn't even read anything other than the chatlogs because Riot looks at the chat logs, not what people say out of game.

ShishouMatt7/28/2017, 1:33:44 AM1 votes

I'm sure there is much more than shown. Regardless...

You can't quit/give up after 15 just because it is a lost game. Surrender and if the team agrees then you give up. Otherwise there is no excuse.

Also you chat way too much during the game. You only need to conversate important details unless it is friendly chatter.