I've never encountered this in 6 years of playing league

NoGodsNoMasters··126 votes·7,382 views

I was playing jungle today and... my team actively sabotaged me as much as they could. The support on leash purposefully stole both of my opening buffs. At first he apologized for blue and I let it slide, whatever mistakes happen. Then he leashes red for me to "make up" for it and steals that too and goes to lane.
My mid laner played Tahm and would actively try to waste my ult (master yi) by swallowing me when I was about to get kills and spit me away or spit me into the enemy team on purpose. Even with that I was doing really well and had I not been actively sabotaged, i could have easily carried.
It takes a lot to bother me. I've come to terms with league kind of having a lot of trolls and people that like to give up in the first 10 minutes, but this is beyond awful. They admitted at the end of the game they were a 4 man and just wanted to piss someone off. I didn't respond to anything they said after 5 minutes as I realized what was going on. What would you do in this situation @riot.

166 Comments

RallerenP65 votes

Report them, and maybe even submit a ticket (but that isn't prefferable.)

Good that you didn't respond to them [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

rtbf2256182411 votes

Report them AND submit a ticket*.

RallerenP7 votes

Isn't that what I wrote? O.O

Terozu4 votes

Yes, yes it is.

Hethalean31 votes

Same as any other moment of toxicity. Just report them and move on in this case I think.

Oxyrotten17 votes

Yeah premade troll groups are common nowadays. The best part is Riot refuses to ban them because the system doesn't recognize lone reports.

Scuffleboard47 votes

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Yeah premade troll groups are common nowadays. The best part is Riot refuses to ban them because the system doesn't recognize lone reports.

This is false.

Oxyrotten22 votes

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This is false.

Really because I can name half a dozen or so that op.gg'd in champ select me just to target ban anything I play, trolled the ever loving hell out the games, int'ed as much as they could, and spent the entire game spamming chat with racial slurs and constant flaming to the point that I wondered if it was scripted because it literally did not stop scrolling the entire game...

And they are still playing today... With a matching record in match history for every single game in the same premade groups..

Riot doesn't give a shit. Fact.

Starcraft243ver3 votes

Proof or it didnt happen. Target banning is sad but there's no way you can prove they didnt genuily wanted to ban these champions.

The other cases : inting and flamming in chat, they should have been banned

AmenPerson6 votes

https://i.imgur.com/9CBfspp.png?noredirect

I was the only person who did a report on someone, and they got a 14 day ban. I made sure to check as soon as I got this message, which was about a month ago, and actually just checked the other day, them starting to play right away after 14 days passed.

Oxyrotten1 votes

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https://i.imgur.com/9CBfspp.png?noredirect

I was the only person who did a report on someone, and they got a 14 day ban. I made sure to check as soon as I got this message, which was about a month ago, and actually just checked the other day, them starting to play right away after 14 days passed.

Great. Now how many people have you reported in the past and haven't received a message? I am positive I am in the hundred thousand range, and I have probably received a dozen or so feedbacks. What's your point?

AmenPerson2 votes

My point is, that you said single person reports didn't work and Riot didn't give a crap.

By the fact that I have shown proof of an IFR, and just now you said you've received some, it shows that what you said earlier, "Riot doesn't give a shit. Fact." is false.

Don't just blindly complain and say something doesn't work when there is proof of that thing working. And if you really wanted something done about it, could always submit a ticket like the first reply to this post said.

Oxyrotten1 votes

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My point is, that you said single person reports didn't work and Riot didn't give a crap.

By the fact that I have shown proof of an IFR, and just now you said you've received some, it shows that what you said earlier, "Riot doesn't give a shit. Fact." is false.

Don't just blindly complain and say something doesn't work when there is proof of that thing working. And if you really wanted something done about it, could always submit a ticket like the first reply to this post said.

Your assuming absolutes which doesn't work. A broken clock is right twice a day (demonstratable proof), doesn't mean the clock works (logical reasoning)...

A dozen IFR's in comparison with at least a hundred thousand reports... Does show that the system does not work. Or rather we can infer from that data that the system does not work. Reporting obvious cases of bannable offenses that are clear violations with zero reason that the review system should not detect racist and obscene and hate fueled language, does in fact show that the system does not work.

It's not a blind statement when you yourself just stated that I and yourself have demonstratable proof. Please try to think logically if you are going to argue reason.

AmenPerson2 votes

A lot of the things that you are saying are not making sense for this.

If the system did not work, in any way, shape, or form, then no one would ever receive an IFR. Again, the fact that I have in the past, received multiple IFR, shows that the system works. And a good way to figure out that people have received such things, is to look at the bunches of accounts that have been banned in the past. Or wait, are those just random bans that happened for no reason, because they just have to be if the system is completely broken. Because if something is broken that means it doesn't work at all.

I'm sorry that you feel like it's a broken system that has never worked at all, but again, that really isn't true.

And I never mentioned you made a 'blind statement'. I said 'Don't blindly complain', because it's clear that is really all you're doing.

Also, don't say 'Please try to think logically if you are going to argue reason.' like you came out on top or instantly won a discussion, or like you're the only one thinking logically.

Oxyrotten1 votes

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A lot of the things that you are saying are not making sense for this.

If the system did not work, in any way, shape, or form, then no one would ever receive an IFR. Again, the fact that I have in the past, received multiple IFR, shows that the system works. And a good way to figure out that people have received such things, is to look at the bunches of accounts that have been banned in the past. Or wait, are those just random bans that happened for no reason, because they just have to be if the system is completely broken. Because if something is broken that means it doesn't work at all.

I'm sorry that you feel like it's a broken system that has never worked at all, but again, that really isn't true.

And I never mentioned you made a 'blind statement'. I said 'Don't blindly complain', because it's clear that is really all you're doing.

Also, don't say 'Please try to think logically if you are going to argue reason.' like you came out on top or instantly won a discussion, or like you're the only one thinking logically.

Again your making assumptions and appying false logic though. Just because something doesn't work doesn't mean that it never worked or that it doesn't occasionally work. Your trying to shoehorn the argument into absolutes and sweeping blanket statements, that is illogical.

Of course people do get banned, no one is saying that never happens. Your using fallacies to justify your reasoning and that just doesn't work. Please try to think logically if you are going to argue reason. The reason I say that is because you are not using logic to reason, you are skipping logic in order to pick out bits and pieces that you don't agree with, and that just doesn't make rational sense.

AmenPerson2 votes

I am not picking out anything specific, nor am I making absolutes. I am applying logical thinking to the situation, and have been stating the same thing. You said in the very beginning-

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Yeah premade troll groups are common nowadays. The best part is Riot refuses to ban them because the system doesn't recognize lone reports.

Now that there, just simply isn't true, as I then replied to that with, one or two posts later in the discussion-

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https://i.imgur.com/9CBfspp.png?noredirect

I was the only person who did a report on someone, and they got a 14 day ban. I made sure to check as soon as I got this message, which was about a month ago, and actually just checked the other day, them starting to play right away after 14 days passed.

Which shows that lone reports do work.

From what you have been saying, you believe that the system doesn't work in favor of lone reports, and that if someone does do a lone report, it wont work. Even though that I have showed proof that a lone report works, and you also said that you've gotten IFR to appear from a lone report. The only thing I have been arguing, is that lone reports work, which you are saying that they don't.

Regaly1 votes

lmfao! oxyrotten is trying to sound smart, but his whole argument falls flat. It is obvious he is wrong.

LTShadow1 votes

Just a guy from EUNE talking here, but IMO the system is kinda meh. The way I see it, the reason not all reports get the IFR is that the IFR depends on which report on the same guy is yours. If it's the first, second, third or so, nothing will happen, because Rito cannot trust any lone report because it could be from a troll, meaning an innocent might get punished. Those who report once and hit either reported someone who made very severe infractions obvious enough to punish or the report was the last of a required amount for smaller stuff like flaming and trolling. The system works, but we can't really see it's work enough to be happy with it. Best we can do here is simply rep every case, and hope that they get what they deserve. Peace.

Telephone Booth2 votes

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Really because I can name half a dozen or so that op.gg'd in champ select me just to target ban anything I play, trolled the ever loving hell out the games, int'ed as much as they could, and spent the entire game spamming chat with racial slurs and constant flaming to the point that I wondered if it was scripted because it literally did not stop scrolling the entire game...

And they are still playing today... With a matching record in match history for every single game in the same premade groups..

Riot doesn't give a shit. Fact.

Half a dozen trolls not banned= lone reports are ignored. Yes, sweet sweet logic.

weak boy2 votes

Really because I can name half a dozen or so that op.gg'd in champ select me just to target ban anything I play, trolled the ever loving hell out the games, int'ed as much as they could, and spent the entire game spamming chat with racial slurs and constant flaming to the point that I wondered if it was scripted because it literally did not stop scrolling the entire game...

And they are still playing today... With a matching record in match history for every single game in the same premade groups..

Riot doesn't give a shit. Fact.

thats a straight up lie cuz any type of racial slur will warrant a pretty much instant ban or chat restriction

FOR JUSTICE11 votes

[Citations needed]

Oxyrotten7 votes

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[Citations needed]

Riot refuses to release their code (not that I blame them), so no citations are available. But the fact remains that premade troll groups do not get banned, and they exhibit multiple violations of rules that should be bannable, that is the only facts I can offer.

Brotha1 votes

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Riot refuses to release their code (not that I blame them), so no citations are available.

It makes sense for the banning, but a lot of their claims on what the community likes/dislikes are lacking any proof to back it up. Like "x" amount of players do not experience toxicity in their games. When did they collect this data? When did they ask the majority of the player base? I'm on their email spambot shit, and actively fill out their little in game surveys (99% about SKINS). Four years and Riot has never once asked me how I feel about toxicity in relation to the game or how I would like them to approach it.

Oxyrotten1 votes

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It makes sense for the banning, but a lot of their claims on what the community likes/dislikes are lacking any proof to back it up. Like "x" amount of players do not experience toxicity in their games. When did they collect this data? When did they ask the majority of the player base? I'm on their email spambot shit, and actively fill out their little in game surveys (99% about SKINS). Four years and Riot has never once asked me how I feel about toxicity in relation to the game or how I would like them to approach it.

Riot misrepresents facts, misdirects, avoids answering questions, hides facts and obfuscates information, and straight up lies all the time. Almost weekly for that matter.

But yeah their only concern is cash shop sales, and player toxicity does little to impact that so they don't care. Half the report functions in the past have been (and still are) placebo. "Unskilled" as a report function, lol yeah right like anyone is going to actually get banned for that. I mean I don't know how reported ai bot's aren't investigated but those are never banned either.

Brotha2 votes

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Riot misrepresents facts, misdirects, avoids answering questions, hides facts and obfuscates information, and straight up lies all the time. Almost weekly for that matter.

But yeah their only concern is cash shop sales, and player toxicity does little to impact that so they don't care. Half the report functions in the past have been (and still are) placebo. "Unskilled" as a report function, lol yeah right like anyone is going to actually get banned for that. I mean I don't know how reported ai bot's aren't investigated but those are never banned either.

This is true. I've reported an account named "Raping Asians" on multiple accounts being assured it would be handled... but op.gg still has him as an active player. Literal hate crime account and it's not banned basically lets ya know their automated system is garbage.

ModPeriscope3 votes

I disagree. The last time I was with a premade of 4, they all honored me.

Oxyrotten2 votes

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I disagree. The last time I was with a premade of 4, they all honored me.

Ok... And were they a premade of toxic int'ing flaming trolls?

ModPeriscope2 votes

Nope. I definitely did the worst in that game.

Summonah123692 votes

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Yeah premade troll groups are common nowadays. The best part is Riot refuses to ban them because the system doesn't recognize lone reports.

Again a pretty accurate comment with TONS of down-votes.

Oxyrotten1 votes

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Again a pretty accurate comment with TONS of down-votes.

Welcome to the boards.

Summonah123693 votes

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Welcome to the boards.

Ty

EfficientDynamo2 votes

Why would you think that is accurate?

Leaf on Bush11 votes

They will not get detected, but you would get detected if you said anything slightly offensive or tried too often to reason with them to win the game. Like idk...if you say "stop trolling please" that's probably considered negative attitude by the instant punishment system and if the troll reported you, it would count as valid. Communication is dead.

toastMonkey7 votes

Way to keep your cool in the fire of mean stupidity. Well done.

Definitely report after - it's a favor for the next people.

Serika Zero4 votes

just alt+f4 there's no reason to put up with that, be a better man or woman and walk away

you can just go on another account if you still want to play lol or do something else

World King17 votes

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Serika Zero8 votes

yes it would however, your mentality > riot's rules (summoner code)

seriously, if your school or workplace had a rule of: let this guy repeatedly punch you in the stomach for 20 minutes and we won't do anything or just walk away and you'll get a warning

which one would you chose? There's 4 times of people as far as i know regarding rules: those that respect rules out of fear of them (majority) those that respect rules out of the goodness of their hearth as they are good people (very few) those that understand that by breaking the rules they can cause suffering, but will not blindly follow all of them and decide for themselves which rules to follow or nto and those that follow the rules just because they are to lazy to break them or just don't give a fuck and its easier to just follow them

So, if you are in the majority, do yourself a favor and stop being scared by riot ;) your mental state as well as the emotional one will thank you

Summonah123693 votes

Get them banned, show their names so we know to dodge when we get into a queue with them.

Arcana Coltic3 votes

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Get them banned, show their names so we know to dodge when we get into a queue with them.

dont know why you got down voted tbh

Summonah123691 votes

Happens all the time with posts i make, often with story telling of in game experiences i have had, only get down voted because people don't know the full story behind my experience.

AmazoX3 votes

Definitely would submit a ticket to support. This is just fucking insane trolling.

Snowman Arc3 votes

Honestly, they all should be permabanned. Sole purpose to ruin someone's game shouldn't be tolerated in any way.

Triumphant Mind3 votes

ignore them and do your best, focus on your gameplay

HollowMimic1 votes

How is it possible to have a 4man team in a ranked game?

The Highest Noon1 votes

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How is it possible to have a 4man team in a ranked game?

Flex probably?

HollowMimic2 votes

They don't let you queue with 4 people.

The Highest Noon1 votes

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They don't let you queue with 4 people.

LOL Then I have no idea. Maybe they were talking about normals.

DorkunedAuras1 votes

I didn't see him say it was a ranked game

VendettaX41 votes

Thats what you get for playing yi lmao

HalcyonDweller2 votes

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Thats what you get for playing yi lmao

Sentiment about the champion, agreed. But it's wrong to treat a person like this.

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