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Permanently Suspended for using "Skin Preview"

Jp50Ywsn00··15 votes·31,934 views

I was perma suspended from using a program called "Skin Preview" and all it does is change the cosmetics of the game such as skins, particles, etc., but yet i was still banned. I've already contacted riot support and they only told me that I was using a "malicous 3rd party program" and the only 3rd party program i used was Skin Preview. Before using Skin Preview, I used mkjogo/mklol and i received a warning for that program because it had jungle timers, so i switched to Skin Preview, which doesn't do anything but change skins. Also if it is possible for a rioter to show me the program that was detect as "malicious," I would appreciate that. I already tried to ask riot support to show me the "evidence" but they said it would interfere with the investigation. Being that it has been a good 2 months or so since i've been banned, is the investigation over or no?

Here is a picture of the main menu of program: http://i.imgur.com/OM7hZLP.png?1

Here are pictures of the different tabs there are: http://i.imgur.com/2smWFxR.png?1 http://i.imgur.com/lHcfKqR.png?1 http://i.imgur.com/crVsMlW.png?1

I clicked on Jax and it brings me to a menu where you can select all these different skins. Then you can click the apply button in the bottom right to apply the skins: http://i.imgur.com/fYFgAWk.png?1

After reviewing all of this, can a riot member confirm to me whether this program is bannable or not?

Here is a video reviewing the program too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq94w2bR8PQ

If their is anything else that you need to see please comment it below, Thank you.

37 Comments

ZHermZ5 votes

I don't think you should've been perma'd

Arsenic Sulfur3 votes

You skinhacked. Goodbye forever.

CrazFight 2 votes

instead of using third party programs just fuking google it -_-

Jp50Ywsn006 votes

What do you mean just google it? If u mean just google if it is bannable or not, im not sure b/c their are a lot of different answers.

DrCyanide3 votes

No, he means go to YouTube and look up the skin. SkinSpotlight is a channel that does a pretty good job showing the skin, particles, etc.

Jp50Ywsn004 votes

Oh no, this programs lets you use the riot skins but only you can see it.

CrazFight 7 votes

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Oh no, this programs lets you use the riot skins but only you can see it.

so you mean you get the skin for free, without having to pay. WOW i wonder what the problem is.

Darksyde8 votes

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so you mean you get the skin for free, without having to pay. WOW i wonder what the problem is.

Well like he said, only he can see it because it's only affecting your client. The use of custom skins has been a part of the game since season 1, I remember screenshots of people running around as a vending machine version of singed. As far as I know, the use of these custom skins has never been bannable, and no one in the game can see them except you. Maybe this program is automatically detected by their anti cheat as malicious and that's why the OP got banned.

tl;dr - No it's not getting the skin for free, it's the same as using custom skins which were not bannable last time I checked although that may be different now.

CrazFight 2 votes

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Well like he said, only he can see it because it's only affecting your client. The use of custom skins has been a part of the game since season 1, I remember screenshots of people running around as a vending machine version of singed. As far as I know, the use of these custom skins has never been bannable, and no one in the game can see them except you. Maybe this program is automatically detected by their anti cheat as malicious and that's why the OP got banned.

tl;dr - No it's not getting the skin for free, it's the same as using custom skins which were not bannable last time I checked although that may be different now.

Custom skins are allowed, but you aren't allowed to use creations that riot has used. I mean just because you can see it doesn't mean its ok, many times people buy skins just for themselves because looking at normal udyr compared to his ultimate is much more appealing.

Darksyde1 votes

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Custom skins are allowed, but you aren't allowed to use creations that riot has used. I mean just because you can see it doesn't mean its ok, many times people buy skins just for themselves because looking at normal udyr compared to his ultimate is much more appealing.

Do you have a source where Riot has ever confirmed that you can't use their "creations" as custom skins? What if someone made a skin that looks just like a Riot skin but only slightly different. Would that count? This seems kinda fishy and I feel like you just made it up because it makes sense to you. And yes if he's the only one who sees it then it does make it okay. That's the entire point of custom skins. No one else can see it so it doesn't affect the game for anyone else. You can make your character batman or darth vader (yes those are real skins that exist) and it's fine because no one else can see it.

Jp50Ywsn002 votes

Im pretty sure riot doesnt ban you for using riot created skins because in this one post a riot member stated that mkjgo people didnt get warnings for using the skins but they got warnings because of the jungle timers and this program only changes the skin, it does nothing else.

I think i found a post where a riot member stated that the skins don't matter: http://boards.eune.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/help-support-en/KoU9E7Kp-is-mk-lol-ok-can-a-rioter-help Note that this post is about mkjogo

Tolshakk1 votes

"If you want to be safe and 100% adhere to the Terms of Use - you cannot modify anything. Skins etc technically break the Terms of Use, and (again technically), Riot can ban for using them."

He says skin modifications are against the ToS

Illydth1 votes

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Do you have a source where Riot has ever confirmed that you can't use their "creations" as custom skins? What if someone made a skin that looks just like a Riot skin but only slightly different. Would that count? This seems kinda fishy and I feel like you just made it up because it makes sense to you. And yes if he's the only one who sees it then it does make it okay. That's the entire point of custom skins. No one else can see it so it doesn't affect the game for anyone else. You can make your character batman or darth vader (yes those are real skins that exist) and it's fine because no one else can see it.

It's called intellectual property. You can't steal someone else's work, and you can't reproduce someone else's work. If you were to re-write Harry Potter from memory you can be sued. If you were to write "Harvey Pointer" a child warlock who used a magic pencil to cast spells with his two best friends Rod and Harmony you'd be sued also.

Yes, there's reason to ban for installing something that modifies the game to provide you access to stuff you haven't purchased.

And while making your character Batman or Darth Vader actually is LESS egregious, running around in Udir's Ultimate Skin may just be considered damaging to Riot...especially if you don't already own it...whether anyone else can see it or not is immaterial.

At the end of the day, though, the ban has nothing to do with what skin you had on your character. You used a program to modify the game and it was detected.

You're done. Spend the 15 minutes to set up another account and keep going...the botters seem to be able to do it all day long so there shouldn't be anything stopping you...

TrulyBland1 votes

Intellectual property means jack shit for personal use. If I re-write Harry Potter from memory and keep that book in my private library for only me to read, then that is 100% fine and nobody can do anything against this.

Riot has been very clear about only selectively enforcing the ToS in regards to modifications, and mods that only offer client-side visual/audio modification were fairly clearly excluded from that.

Would indeed be interesting to get an actual source on this having changed.

Ada Wong1 votes

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It's called intellectual property. You can't steal someone else's work, and you can't reproduce someone else's work. If you were to re-write Harry Potter from memory you can be sued. If you were to write "Harvey Pointer" a child warlock who used a magic pencil to cast spells with his two best friends Rod and Harmony you'd be sued also.

Yes, there's reason to ban for installing something that modifies the game to provide you access to stuff you haven't purchased.

And while making your character Batman or Darth Vader actually is LESS egregious, running around in Udir's Ultimate Skin may just be considered damaging to Riot...especially if you don't already own it...whether anyone else can see it or not is immaterial.

At the end of the day, though, the ban has nothing to do with what skin you had on your character. You used a program to modify the game and it was detected.

You're done. Spend the 15 minutes to set up another account and keep going...the botters seem to be able to do it all day long so there shouldn't be anything stopping you...

** In this case yeah using skins which you have not purchased from the store is ban-able, what you need to do is Submit a ticket' tell them exactly what you did, tell them you were stupid and have been informed by others on the forums it was a ban worthy offense, Uninstall the game, delete directories, remove the hack from your computer and reinstall league fresh to make sure nothing is there, then wait to hopefully get unbanned... (They can lift the ban.) ** What they are talking about as far as Skins being legal is likely UI skins like in DOTA 2 where players user a custom skin such as this http://leaguecraft.com/uimods/21013-fire-hud-5-15-free.xhtml I think its legal for these.

As for Intellectual property rights in the "Real World" I laugh at how greedy, and how stupid the world is today when it comes to (IP Theft) Obviously if you are using a service like League "Accessing FREE Content" or any other hacks for "Steam Games" you are likely going to get banned for doing it, however there are ways to get "Thousands of dollars worth of free programs for free on your PC without paying ^^, as well as "Stream Movies (FREE) the ones you would have to rent from on demand ETC, However there are ways to prevent piracy, lets get rid of all premium movie services, and go Digital Streaming for everything except Live Television, News, Weather ETC... Would save so much bandwidth and help the planet too, as well as take care of those rumored health concerns with the Radio Waves etc...

... The exception to "Steam Games" is offline games, for example being a pirate, and using a crack, heck truth be told most the games on illegal places come from "Steam" and even played many games myself up to a week before they were released, Russians are Indeed really good programmers when it came to cracking steam encryption installers.

The biggest one of all I complain about I think is really stupid is "Photography" Copyrights that is right, if you share a picture your friend takes without their consent they could sue you or claim copyright, I mean obviously profiting off someone elses work I would never agree with, or taking pictures etc, but I am talking about Bloggers, Cosplay Events, people who just take pictures and share and people love to claim Photography Copyrights when there are like a million people there taking pictures and all... (Yet they could stop being lazy and get hired to take photos lol.)

As far as Laws go its easy, just use a few VPN's route your connection really well I've been doing it since I was 7 years old, and um that is like 18 years only 1 ISP warning ever due to some packets from streaming from Popcorn Time, so when it comes to "Intellectual Property" I just laugh at it for the most part the world is greedy (I mean obviously there are some things you shouldn't do, but heck I run a few internet bots that download entire webpages of Art Work off deviant art, and other sites, collect millions of photo's, and such but never profit off it or post it claiming it to be mine.

Funny thing about it all (Streaming is Legal) even if its from torrents your not downloading it just streaming along, same thing with PPV events paid events people rent at "Clubs" and Bars in the real world, and you got 20 people watching it they like to make a big fuss over it and shut this stuff down due to lost profits, but they won't dare come to my house when I order a PPV event and have my entire family and friends over to watch it.

ModAttysu The Poro2 votes

Asking around about this; I'll get back to you once I get a definitive answer on the specific program as I've never heard of it before.

Kim Chi Vendor2 votes

Skinhacking isn't allowed, said many times, perma won't be reversed.

SpookyNeedle8 votes

What? Riot said you could use custom skins, I'm sure this counts

CrazFight 2 votes

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What? Riot said you could use custom skins, I'm sure this counts

CUSTOM skins, are not the same as skins riot has made. Riot claims ownership of there own skins while others claim rights to theres. You are allowed custom skins , which riot skins are not.

ModAttysu The Poro2 votes

Sent this in and it was said that they were not banned for using this program.

Kenioshi2 sequel2 votes

If the program doesn't effect your gameplay or give you an advantage over your opponent then its not ban able

Hidden Shadows 1 votes

what does skin preview do to effect your gameplay? i am pretty sure it only lets you use skins.

Apple tater2 votes

You can't use programs that change your champion skin into a riot made skin. It might seem harmless for you, but riot loses money because of that. (You not buying the skins). Custom ones are allowed though, so you can use skins that ARE NOT CREATED BY RIOT and not get any warnings and/or bans. I hope that explains it, and that ban is perfectly acceptable in my opinion.

Only Play Darius2 votes

Riot is fine with custom skins, but I believe they are against programs that simply unlock official skins.

Bloodmorne1 votes

they dont want you to see or change nothing because they cant suck the money out of you that way Kappa

GamblerOfLives1 votes

the thing is ..I don't blame Riot for banning you. But, i blame them for not banning everybody that does that:)..alot of streamers use this program..Why are they not banned???

Elisheva1 votes

The skins aren't free for a reason.

Carnagest1 votes

The reason is that Riot To get money from us.

nerak231 votes

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The reason is that Riot To get money from us.

Really annoying when someone clicks a thread to find out it is 2 years old and the reason?

To see a shit post :(

Jp50Ywsn001 votes

Im just waiting for an actual riot member to talk to me, hopefully one of them can help.

Teslyn1 votes

3rd party programs leaves an unprotected back door into their security.. the cost of allowing people to use any program not officially authorized by riot compromises more than you know.

kaltenashes1 votes

Idk, using ritos skin as customs seems like ban to me, even if it's only you that sees it

I know that you can use customs skins that Rito didn't make, like kshaway does in his off meta videos, like AS braum

Yásssuö1 votes

I got banned and then unbanned

Scary Door1 votes

You are knowingly and willfully gaining access to intellectual property via a third party without the permission of (or in an attempt to circumvent) the copyright holder. Further, you are doing so without proper conpensation to the copyright holder or authorized distributor. This is not only against the Terms of Service, but it is actually illegal to do this.

Arminas1 votes

This happened months ago and still no response from any Riot employees? Just shows how much they care about their community, games already declining in number of players big time, slowly dying because all they care about is how to make more money.

hèłł1 votes

I just want to know from a SkinPreview user, have u gotten any random websites popping out when u opened the program or had any bugsplat because you used a ward skin or recall skin?

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