Honor Level 0 Not Increasing (and not part of reset)

BESTINTHEWORLD·Jan 11, 2018·5 votes·1,733 views

Hello!

Earlier this year, I was given a 2 week ban (without warning, but that's fair) for something toxic I said to an individual in a game. I don't remember exactly what it was, but I'm pretty sure I'd told them to "stop being such a %%%%licker and just kys already". I served my 2 week ban, and I've played at least a hundred games since then, usually receiving 1 Honor or more in about 75-80% of my games (the ban was during the summer, and I've played actively every month since then except September).

I was informed by my friends that Honor was resetting to 2, so I didn't stress to much about it the last couple of months, but now I'm finding out that, not only is my Honor still at 0 after not a single ounce of toxicity (despite some pretty rough games) since my punishment during the summer, but that, since my Honor Level is at 0 at the time of the reset, I will be stuck at 0, still unable to reap the benefits of Honor in the game.

I understand that my Honor level dropping to 0 was my fault. I was toxic that game (and maybe a couple before it, but that was the only line in the chatlog handed to me that was toxic), but I served my time, was an honorable player before that (played the game since October 2011 on and off with only having a 24 hour Leaverbuster ban due to internet issues in March 2012) have been an honorable player since, and hope to continue to be one.

I'm not asking for an Honor increase for this season, because I feel it is fair that, since I was a dishonorable player at one point in the season, I deserve to not get anything for it. Instead, I'm asking for my Honor to reset to the default of 2 (no checkpoints, based on your new system) at the time of reset when the new season officially begins. I feel that, since a new season resets your ability to earn rewards at the end of the season, Honor levels should be one of the things considered in this, since Honor results in receiving rewards at the end of the game during a season.

I want to know your thoughts on this, and I would appreciate a Rioter's response to this as well.

I thank you for reading this, and I will be possibly duplicating it to League's subreddit in the hopes that this becomes taken into consideration by as many as I can.

7 Comments

Jo0oJan 11, 20182 votes

If you scroll down a bit, Tantram responded to two similar threads earlier today.

The common theme is that folks stuck at Honor 0 seem to be exhibiting low-key toxicity that, while shy of triggering further punishments, stops them from climbing. That may be what you've been doing. Tantram probably won't respond to this thread, but you might get some specific examples through a support ticket if you haven't already tried one.

BESTINTHEWORLDJan 11, 20182 votes

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If you scroll down a bit, Tantram responded to two similar threads earlier today.

The common theme is that folks stuck at Honor 0 seem to be exhibiting low-key toxicity that, while shy of triggering further punishments, stops them from climbing. That may be what you've been doing. Tantram probably won't respond to this thread, but you might get some specific examples through a support ticket if you haven't already tried one.

I honestly disagree. I'll admit I have games that go horribly every once in awhile, but I honestly don't speak to my teammates or my opponents, unless it's game related or to congratulate someone for a play.

I don't think the system is fair if that's the case. If it's claiming that I'm committing "low-key toxicity", then I should be informed of such, and at least an idea of the low-key toxicity I am committing. I don't ever insult anyone in any capacity anymore. Quite the opposite actually, where I tell my teammates to calm down and work together, despite how painful that may be on occasion.

Jo0oJan 11, 20181 votes

I dunno what you're disagreeing with, Tantram's one of the main programmers of the IFS system and knows his shit.

I can't possibly know how you conduct yourself, so I'd suggest submitting a support ticket and having them give you specific examples of anything that might be preventing your climb.

BESTINTHEWORLDJan 11, 20181 votes

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I dunno what you're disagreeing with, Tantram's one of the main programmers of the IFS system and knows his shit.

I can't possibly know how you conduct yourself, so I'd suggest submitting a support ticket and having them give you specific examples of anything that might be preventing your climb.

I'll do so. We'll see where that goes. Thank you.

You never did address my original point of why resetting Honor to Level 2 would be a bad idea though, especially since every other system (outside of ban lengths for good reason) for negative behavior is reset at the start of the season, at the very least given a partial reset. That has not been addressed by Riot, and I hope they do so.

Jo0oJan 11, 20181 votes

I couldn't say for sure why they're keeping folks from resetting.

If I were to venture a guess, it could be to avoid folks not worrying about their honor level at the end of a season because it'll reset anyway, or just resigning to honor 0 for entire seasons to get a free reset instead of changing their behavior.

ŠunshineJan 17, 20181 votes

Here's the damn truth. Riot does not give half a turd that they poop out in the morning about any single person who plays their game outside of pros. They've screwed over all new players with this IP/BE/whatever thing (I have multiple friends I recommended to the game drop out due to this change because it just WASN'T WORTH IT ANYMORE), and they don't give a crap about CURRENT players because they spent an entire year telling them they'd be reset with honor, ranks, everything. to single out those at top tier to make them feel better. Do I encourage toxicity? No. But my twin brother has been at 0 honor for 6 months and has literally disabled all chat and refused to speak in games for months in hope that he'd increase, and he's gotten NOTHING. And now he won't even reset. RIOT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT YOU. RIOT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ANYONE IF THEY AREN'T BEING PAID TO PLAY THE GAME. Let it go, move on to a different game with a company that DOES care, and stop loving this game with the recognition that loving it only screws you over in the long run. After 4 years of playing, I've had to make that choice. Let it go.

Innocent MinionFeb 10, 20181 votes

It's just frustrating if you are actually trying to reform and then have one bad day on which you are toxic. That just destroys all your effort you've put in that. I also think that honor should be reset to 2 in season 8 because everyone has deserved a second chance and when the new honor system came out I really didn't know that negative behavior would be punished so badly. Like once you are in honor 0 riot doesn't give a shit about you that's totally right and they will always find something "negative" that you said and because of that you cant improve. When your midlaner is literally 0/8 in ranked and you get autofilled to support as a midlane main, you are close to demoting because of that and then say how bad your midlaner is you get chat restrictions. Of course. But guess who's not getting honored if he just shuts up and says nothing? Definitely me. Like if you don't say anything people don't honor you for "staying cool". Trust me I stayed cool so many times and nobody honored me. But if you are 30/0 and carry you get like 3 honors. Seriousely the new honor system is shit because its basically who carries the hardest gets the honors. Its always like that. I was so nice in some games like really really nice and didn't get a single honor because I didn't carry or didn't have the best kda. And if you get reported then its by some butthurt losers because you crushed them